Header group condition

Hi,
What is the impact of enabling a group condition for a header condition (fixed amt)?
When group condition is not enabled and when I enter for e.g. 10 INR in condition
header then it gets applied to all the PO line items. If 10 line items are there then 10 * 10 = 100 INR comes
in header
When group condition is enabled the value 10 INR gets apportioned to 10 line items.
What are the other impacts of enabling the group condition?
Regards,
Partha

Hi
Yes you are correct, if you you enable or flagged the condition as group then system will equally distribute the value among the line item of the PO equally
Rg

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I want to know, how system assign the corresponding condition amount of header to individual item .
in our system
e.g in our system we have condition ZD22 for packainf and forwading charges as fixed amount and scale is qty
i have add Rs 300 at header and in my PO there are 3 item having qty,   100 ,100 and 2500   after adding condition amount at header as 300   when i checked the on individual item i found for first two item it 75.89 each and for third item the amount is 148.22
I want to know how system divides the header amount to individual item if scale is qty.
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Hi
Kindly note this scenario
Condition value XXXX    180
Marked as Header + Group Condition
PO
Item 1       qty   1           Price 300
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Item 3       qty   1           Price 50
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Hi All,
can any one tell me why the same header condition type is coming in billing document twice.The condition type has two deifferent parameters.
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condition class :DISCOUNT /SURCHARGE
calculation type :A percentage
condition control:A Adjust for qty variance
condition origin:A Automatic pricing
In second condition type:
condition class :DISCOUNT /SURCHARGE
calculation type :A percentage
condition control:C CHchanged manually
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hi,
pl check at V/06 if you have maintained the conditon type as both header and group condition.
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we have a condition (Freight) that is a surcharge entered as a percentage. If the condition is 10%, we would like the calcualtion 10% of net value at the header level and then distribute the amount to the line items distributed by weight or volume.
We tried using the alternate condition base value formula, but then the calculation is the product of surcharge percentage multiplied by either the weight and volume instead of the net value. Is it possible to do the calculation as defined?
example we would like to occur:
net value 1000, percentage 10% total value of condition is 100
line item 1 volume 70 - condition value is 70
line item 2 volume 30 - condition value is 30
what is happending using alternate condition base formula of volume:
net value 1000 percentage condition value is 1 (100* 1) from total volume
line item 1 volume 70 - condition value is .7
line item 2 volume 30 - condition value is .3
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you do not need any alt cond base value.
In the condition type defintion of your freight condition ( T Code V/06) in the defintion, under the scales section , for "Scale Basis" use F - Volume based.
Mark the condition as Group condition , use group formula 1, Check Both Header / Item Conditions
When you create the condition record using VK11, mainatin the scales as per the requirement
For example say from 0 to 1000 - 10% / From 1001 till....... 15%....so on
Process order and check the results. Please post if you have any further error.
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Distribution of Header Freight condition among items

Dear All,
I have a Header freight condition which is manual. IWhen I give the Value of this header condition as 100, I want that this value gets distributed amongst the items proportionate to the item value.
Actually I am seeing that if I give the Header condition value as Rs 100 manually, each line item shows freight value as 100 so if there are 4 line items the totall freight becomes 4 X 100 = 400.
Please tell me if there is a way to get the header val;ue distributed in the items proportionate to the item values.
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Hi,
This is very much possible and we have done it in our project very very recently.
Just mark the condition type as Group condition and then assign the group condition routine 1(overall document) in the condition type.
Now if you enter the condition type manually at header level, you can see that the value is assigned to all the items proportionately.
Do let me know if you need any help on this

Header Value Condition to Distribute at Item

Hi dear all.
Please clarify me about the following issue, already discussed here.
There was already a suggestion proposed which I went through but unfortunately without the expected results. Let me go a little bit more in detail.
How can we configure the condition type such that It would be possible to maintain the Fixed amount at header and then it should automatically distribute equally for the items (Based on quantity).
I will enter the Condition Type ZM00 amount at Header as 2000 EUR and in the items it should automatically split up as :
Ex ->Condition Type Item Qty Amount as it shoulb be distributed.
Item A Qty=1 PC, so ZM00 => 400 EUR
Item B Qty=2 PC, so ZM00 => 800 EUR
Item C Qty=2 PC, so ZM00 => 800 EUR
According the suggestion, I made:
In Control data 1 TAB
put calculation type as C
In group condition TAB
active group condition.
By doing so at Custo, running the process, by entering the amount of 2000 EUR at Header, going back the Overview we see the following distribution:
Item A Qty=1 PC, so ZM00 => 2000 EUR
Item B Qty=2 PC, so ZM00 => 4000 EUR
Item C Qty=2 PC, so ZM00 => 4000 EUR
It looks like (at it is actually) that the value of 2000 EUR has been understood as a unit value and not a total value, as it should.
How to make the system understand it by just inputing the value without maintaining "per x units" (in this case would be 5). Actually the unit price is not relevant, only a total value. The quantity would be then just a distributing criteria.
When I enter the value 2000 per 5 (PC) then the result is correct.
You also mentioned the Condition Group activation. Can someone please clarify me what is the logic behind? In fact, the type of materials for which the total value is due to be distributed in this example according, let's say the quantity, is assigned to a specific material group. How is then possible for ZM00 to address its total value to these three items? Remember that there is no condition record maintained for ZM00. He's just a manual entry, decided on that moment.
I really appreciate your prompt reply, as there is some urgency on solving this riddle.
Thanks in advance and Best Regards
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Hi Pathik.
Regarding the requirements you mentioned I have to say:
There is no sales order. I've created a delivery based on a Project (CNS0). Then I'm trying to create a Pro Forma invoice. Only at this stage the pricing will run.
On the delivery I can have several materials, as I can have more then one material group involved. That's probably were the problem begins. The Group Condition, in this case, can have some problems on identifying which materials to look for. I made what you told me. Anyway, in the ZM00 settings I've place the Group Condition Rotine 003 (Pricing Material Group). It also required me to flag the RoundDiffComp.
After placing the value 2000 EUR under the 'Amount' column, here's the distribution I got:
Item 10 A Qty=1 Net Value = 0
Item 20 B Qty=1 Net Value = 0
Item 30 C Qty=1 Net Value = 2000
Any suggestion?
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Regarding group condition

hi friends
1.wht is header condition and group condition?
2. what r the condution types for header and group conditions?
3. give me some examples for useful of header condition and group conditon?
plz reply me
thanks in advance

Dear Venkata Ramana
1) Header Conditions
Header conditions are entered manually in order processing. Automatic pricing does not take header conditions into account; you can not create condition records for them in the standard system. R/3 includes the following header conditions:
- Percent discount (HA00)
- Absolute discount (HB00)
- Freight (HD00)
2) Group Conditions
Please check this help link
[Group Conditions |http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/1c/8c8b518d8c11d199a30000e8a5bd28/frameset.htm]
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Header Freight condition should only attract Full Tax i.e. Tax classification '1'

Hi Experts,
I have a scenario for German Sales and wondering if anyone has come across this.
I have created a manual Freight condition, marked as a group condition. In pricing I have materials attract 19% and 7% Tax so the Tax on Freight is calculated with both the 19% and 7% Tax. Germany only want to apply a 19% tax on Freight. How do I get this done? Any Alternative Calculation type I could use to overcome this?
Your help is much appreciated.
Thanks,
Sal

I think the crux of the issue here is : being a group condition, when this header freight is being divided into its line items, based on the line item, the tax which is being applied is different.
I can think of a solution as below, please suggest if this is correct :
1. Make freight and its tax as Only Header conditions.
2. Make a new condition for Freight + Tax - this condition will be made a Group Condition
3. Now in the pricing, make sure that NO Tax is applied on the freight value as this particular value (coming down from Header will already have Tax added to it).
So the scenario will be like below:
Header : Freight = 100
               Tax @ 19% = 19
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Line
1. Material A - Cost = 200
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     Value without freight = 238
     Freight = 119/2 (considering equal division between lines) = 59.5
     Total Value = 238+59.5 = 297.5
2. Material B - Cost = 230
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     Value without freight = 230+39.1 = 269.1
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Group conditions in price conditions

In a pricing condition, group conditions may be checked off to include in a group.
How specifically do they belong to a group as per the requirements? What group are they referring to?
"Group condition
Indicates whether the system calculates the basis for the scale value from more than one item in the document.
Use
For a group condition to be effective, the items must belong to a group. You can freely define the group to meet the needs of your own organization. The items can, for example, all belong to the same material group.
Example
A sales order contains two items. Both items belong to the material group 01.
Material Quantity Material group
A 150 01
B 100 01
The group condition indicator is set in the definition of the condition type for material group discounts. The condition record for material group 01 includes the following pricing scale:
Scale quantity Discount
from 1 pc -1%
from 200 pc -2%
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Hi Anabela
New groups can be defined in VOFM if required, in addition to those supplied by SAP.
A simple example of a group would be the pre-defined group 1 - All items.
This group can be used for instance to define a value based discount which you want to apply to all items in the order, based on the total order value. Group conditions are similar to header conditions, but have the advantage that they can be automated with condition records, which is not possible for header conditions.
So, you would set up a group condition, possibly with scales, to re-ward customers for larger orders. Because it is a group condition, the discount would be based on the total order value and then applied to all of the items in the order.
Another option would be to use group 3 - material pricing group. This would let you apply the group condition to all of the materials in a pricing group. For instance, if you wanted to set up scales for similar materials so that your customer gets the same price breaks across a number of order lines, regardless of the mix of materials bought.
HTH
James

Discount- Header (group discount)

HI,
we have header discount it's a group condition
1 sales order has 2 items -discount given is say 100 at header level gets distributed as say 60 & 40
& item no 10 is delivered & billed.
Now user has amended the same sales order & add 2 more items into it & gain gave discount at header level now discount is not coming at item level for new items added.
I tried to update-carry out new pricing- but still it's not geting reflected at item level.
Pl suggest

Hi,
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About the group condition in conditions(urgency)

hi,everybody
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Dear Albert,
Hi alrert,
You can do this by,
Solution1: in group conditons "GrpCond.routine", you can give the how system should distribute the Group condition value. here by Standard SAP, we have 1- overall document, 1- Across all condition 3 - material pricing grp, 30 - brazil routine.
Here if your ABAP team is strong then ask them define the routine as per your requirement.
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Solution 3: Create a seperate PO with excluding those items which you do not want to distribute.
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Krishna Reddy

CRM 5.0 IPC Group Condition

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Hi,
I have an requirement in VA01 and VA02 to automatically edit one header pricing condition. The user can able to change the value of that condition type in header not in items . Does anyone know what user exit I can use for this requirement.
Thanks

Hi Sunil,
Plealse find below 2 methods to change header pricing conditions in sales order.
1.Goto SE38, give prog name as MV45AFZZ and in that write logic under USEREXIT_PRICING_PREPARE_TKOMK . (OR)
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KK

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Here is the scenario: A shipment (truck) combines multiple deliveries, grouped on a stage when same destination (happens often).
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Hi Guys
Unfortunately I do not think that you will get an answer now. Either your question is not simple or we do not know.
So in the interest of keeping the Forum tidy and easier to surf through could you please close your thread and either try one of the other forums or try another post. I do not think that most people will bother to look this far back anymore.
Sorry I cannot help as I would if I could.
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