Help changing ProRes to dropped frame.

I need to change a ProRes file to dropped frame. I right clicked the time code but it does not give me the option. I Tried turning the colons to semi-colons. Wondering what else I can do. Any suggestions?

I just figured it out. I created a new sequence with the correct frame rate and then dropped the file in. It converted it to the correct specs. Thank you though.

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Media Manager Trim changes timecode to Drop-frame.

Have a project with footage shot on AJA Kona Ki at 29.97Psf using Apple ProRes 422(HQ). Timecode base Non-Drop-frame time-of-day timecode. Editing in CS6.0.2 on Mac OS 10.7. Trying to trim project using media manager so that only the used media can get color-graded using Filmlight's Baselight. Once the project is trimmed and new trimmed media is created, we export an EDL from the new sequence and conform in the Baselight.
However it seems Premiere is changing the timecode of the new clips to Drop-frame timecode. The EDL seems to reflect this and the Baselight can't conform. We've imported the trimmed media into FCP 7 and confirmed that it sees the new media as Drop-frame timecode. What the heck?
Can anyone help to replicate this issue and confirm if we're seeing what we're seeing. Think it is a huge bug of some kind. If I can get someone to help confim, I'll submit a bug report.
While on the topic of drop-frame. Premiere also seems to think is needs to compensate for DF code when you import a sequence from a Premiere project straight into Adobe Media Encoder. For instance a sequence that is set to start at 01:00:00:00 imports into AME with starting timecode of 01:00:03:15. Or at least it's always 3:15 off from whatever timecode the sequence is set to start at. That sounds like the offset needed to compensate for the difference between NDF and DF code. This makes bringing one sequence in and setting in and outs while in AME a very big pain. Such as a sequence with 10-30sec spots starting at the even minute. Can anyone help to confirm this issue as well?
System info:
2x2.66 6-core Xeon.
32 GB Ram
NVIDIA Quadro 4000 for Mecury playback
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Thanks for the help.

I just looked at the data in the edl. Exported also a new edl from premiere.
In the Premiere edl, there is many FCM at start, so I added one in the AVID, and bang, project is starting correctly.
Before : (From Avid)
TITLE: TEST 720P 29,97 EDL
FCM: NON-DROP FRAME
data.....
After editing:
TITLE: TEST 720P 29,97 EDL
FCM: DROP FRAME
FCM: NON-DROP FRAME
data...

Please Help *Deadline Coming Up* Dropping Frames

hello everyone. I am getting ready tired. I've burnt this project 9x already. I'm using iMovie 08 and I'm editing on a Macbook with an 500 gig firewire drive. The drive has 230 gigs left so it should have plenty to write a temp file for rendering. I got a Core Duo/ 2 gig proc and 2 gigs of RAM. the video is about 1hr30mins. I've tried reimporting into Garageband to set the chapters because they play back great in iMovie and in Quicktime. They play fine in the Garageband window for the preview under the media tab. then I mark my chapter points and I send to iDVD. this is where I think it's messing up. but once iDVD is up and running I will customize the menu. I've tried leaving Garageband opened while rendering and closing it while iDVD is rendering. I've tried closing every program down and even the task pane up in the right hand corner. i've even turned off Airport. Either way I do it I am either dropping frames like crazy or this last time the video sped up. Audio sounds great on all the DVDs it's just an issue with the video. So it's either speeding up or mostly slowing down. Right now the only other thing I know is to wait 2 hrs for the old iMovie to import the video and do the chapters there (WHICH SHOULD BE LIKE THAT IN THE NEW iMOVIE). I definitely don't get that reasoning from Apple. Let Garageband do it's own thing and leave the video to the video apps. Ok well I'm sorry I'm just trying to beat a schedule.
P.S. was running Leopard and thought it might be an issue so I reformated and reinstalled Tiger. So it's on a fresh machine. all the patches updated for mac os x tiger and all of my apps. I've even tried different hard drives. I was editing on a 250 gig firewire drive and went out thinking this 500 gig would work.

jasonlammons wrote:
I wonder if changing my harward interface (Yamaha Audiogram6) to mono instead of stereo would be right also?
you could probably then leave GB set to stereo since the itnerface wuld like send the (mono) signal to both channels
jasonlammons wrote:
Now, if you only knew about the .wav formatting??:)
http://www.bulletsandbones.com/GB/GBFAQ.html#converttowav ?
(Let the page FULLY load. The link to your answer is at the top of your screen)

HELP!!! Dropped frames capturing

Please help...Dropped frames while capturing from Canon XL2 to FCP!!!!

Hi
Can be many things but - as it is a miniDV tape Camera
• connects via IEEE 1394 also called FireWire
A. is it recorded by the same Camera ?
B. is it recorded in SP or LP-mode ?
If recorded in LP-mode - Then You must use same Camera as recorded the tape - That's why I recommend to NEVER use this - when Camera dies so does the tapes.
I used iMovie HD6 as intermediat tool to capture (as it's not so sencitive to drop-outs as FCE/P) - and this I set to NOT import as individual clips. Then I Copied back to a new tape - BUT this time Camera was set into SP-mode.
Eventually one can do a Camera to Camera Copy with receiving Camera set to SP-mode (but I'm not sure it works) (the new tape I pre-record with just any thing of no importance to get a full continuous Timecode - then I use this to take the Copy)
Why I'm not 100% clear is due to that it is about 10 years ago I had this dilemma.
Yours Bengt W

HELP PLEASE!! Dropped Frames while capturing....lots of them!

We're running Final Cut 5.1, Quicktime 7.4, and OS 10.4.11 on a Dual 2 GHZ PPC G5. We're trying to capture whole tapes with no timecode breaks. However, more often than not :30 to 1:00 min into the capturing process we get a window that pops up stating there were dropped frames. How can we fix this? We are using a Canon XHA1 as a deck, and we've tried capturing to 3 different drives. Two internals, both 7200RPM and an external 7200RPM via firewire 800.
Any ideas? I would really like some help.

QUicktime 7.4 might be the culprit. Many people having issues.
Gotta do an archive and install and get back to QT 7.2.
Shane

Help imorting OLD VHS, dropping frames

Hi I'm trying to import an old concert video I have on VHS and I keep getting dropped frames when I play it back. The tape has some issues, but it plays. I'm importing through my Canon ZR70, when I watch what's coming through the ZR70 there are no issues, it is gettting everything, but I'll lose little seconds here and there on my capture, which obviously with audio sounds like a skip. Any settings, or things I can try to fix this?
Thanks!
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If you are capturing the material directly to the system drive, that's likely your problem. Video puts demands on a drive that the system drive often can't support.
Get a firewire exeternal drive. Recognize that your Canon camera may cause problems if you try to use it in a controlled capture process. I wouldn't think it would be an issue in a non-controllable device capture.
good luck,
x

What's the deal with Drop-Frame / Non-Drop-Frame Timecode?

I'm having trouble with 30fps Drop-Frame and 30fps Non-Drop-Frame timecode formats! I thought 29.97fps means 30fps Drop-Frame, but now I'm all confused.
I'm working with DSLR footage filmed with a frame rate of 29.97. For example, this one clip is listed as (in Project panel)
Media Start: 11:16:11:23
Media End: 11:22:42:22
Duration: 00:06:31:00
Frame Rate: 29.97fps
If I open this clip directly in Source Monitor, the timecode display (yellow, on lower left corner) says 11:16:11:23 at the beginning and 11:22:42:23 at the end. OK. But if I right-click on the timecode display, the pop-up indicates "Non-Drop-Frame"(!!). If I manually change that to "Drop-Frame", the start and end timecode would become 11:16:52:11 and 11:23:23:23, and the duration display (white, on lower right corner) becomes 6:31:12.
Now I create a new sequence of 1080p30, which has a 29.97fps time base. I right-click the yellow timecode display on the upper left corner of the Timeline, it says "30fps Drop-Frame". I drag the said clip onto the sequence. It occupies a length of 6:31:12. If I double-click the clip to open it in Source Monitor, now the Source Monitor timecode display indicates "Drop-Frame", and the start/end timecodes are 11:16:52:11 and 11:23:23:23. Huh??
Now I apply the "Timecode" effect on the clip. The timecode burn-in says 11:16:51:11 at the first frame and 11:23:23:22 at the last frame. I then go to the Effect Controls tab and look at the Timecode effect. It says
Format: SMPTE
Timecode Source: Media
Time Display: 30 Drop Frame
Just playing around, I switch "Timecode Source" to "Clip" - now the timecode burn-in goes from 00:00:00:00 to 00:06:31:11 - and then I switch it back to "Media". Now the Effect Controls tab says:
Format: SMPTE
Timecode Source: Media
Time Display: 30 Non-Drop Frame
And the timecode burn-in says 11:16:11:23 at the first frame and 11:22:42:22 at the last frame!
HUH??
Just for kickers, I switch "Timecode Source" to "Clip" again... Now "Time Display" stays on "30 Non-Drop Frame", and the timecode burn-in goes from 00:00:00:00 to 00:06:30:29.
What's the REAL length of this clip? Is it drop-frame or non-drop-frame? What are the REAL timecodes for it?
Also in a general sense, since I can change the "Time Display" field in the Timecode effect at any time, and change the Timecode display format of the Timeline at any time... How do I avoid creating mismatching timecodes??
Thanks in advance for any clarification!!

So obviously, only one of them could be "correct" in terms of reflecting what actually happened. The other one is slightly sped-up or slowed-down. You might say "oh that's a tiny difference, it doesn't matter".
Zooropa75, just for matter of clarification I want to make sure you understand that no matter which you use, it won't actually speed up or slow down your video. TC, wether it is non-drop or drop, is only a counting system. For that reason, it doesn't even matter which you use to reference edits, so long as everyone editing uses the same TC basis.
If you want actual time accurate TC, as was already mentioned, use drop-frame.
I'm going to kill two birds here. The "drag clip to new sequence button" action I was referring to in my earlier post is dragging your clip to the icon seen below. It should create a timeline using your videos format.
Also, remember I recommended looking in the manuel for "actual" time used? You can see below a snapshot I took from your cameras manuel. You're not shooting in whole numbers for anything unless you're using the 50hz system and shooting at 50p. That is the ONLY exception. ...and this is good for everyone to remember. Very few US digital cameras shoot frames per second in whole numbers. If it says you're shooting in 24p, 30p, 60p, etc. ad nauseum, you can bet your biscuits it's actually the multi-decimal NTCS counterparts like you see below And that should be your final answer. *chuckle*

Drop Frame being read as Non-Drop Frame

Hey,
I'm working in FCP HD 5.1.4 and our guys are shooting audio at drop frame, and video at drop frame, and yet when we import the media into FCP, the Video is in Drop frame, but the audio appears to be Non-drop so we're getting BAD sync (some clips 30 seconds, others up to a min.). We're using TOD T/C and it's really important that we convert it cuz we'll shoot 8 hr days, and the first few clips arn't that bad but after so many hours, the sync gets worse and worse.
We're using XDCAM Sony PDW-1500 deck for the video transfer and the audio is BWFs from an external Audio receiver, then it's backed up on lacie drives (prob using compressor) then we're syncing in FCP.
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Fraser

FraserPost, according to Apple in the Late-breaking FCP news PDF on pg.4, Broadcast Wave Audio Files imported will always be interpreted with non-drop frame TC.
Highlight the clip in the bin, choose Modify Menu option and choose Timecode. You can then change it to drop frame in the options panel.
Then your material should synch up.
For future reference but still notable, if you import an aiff, mp3 or another type of audio file without TC, the file will create TC dictated by the Sequence preset setting. This I found out the hard way. One has to shut down FCP and start it up again for the change to take effect on material imported.
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Most TV shows that are broadcast are cut in NTSC, non-drop frame.
I think that you'll find that to be incorrect. The SEQUENCES are always drop frame...because we need to know the proper show times. It is the CAMERA MASTERS that are mostly shot NDF...for the clean lists. IN the past (and still currently I suppose) when dealing with onlining on a tape to tape system or sometimes with an Avid Symphony, you needed NDF masters for the clean workable EDL. That is becoming less of the norm lately, but it is still wise to shoot one format...DF or NDF, instead of mixing. NDF camera masters are the norm.
But DROP FRAME NTSC sequences are the norm. Although NDF HD sequences are the norm lately, but I wonder if that is due to the NLEs that don't offer DF timelines. Which is stupid, as the decks are DF capable.
Shane

Dropping frames after Motion stabilization

Hello,
I'm having a weird problem with Motion and FCP. I'm running FCP Studio 2 (FCP 6) on a MacPro Intel Dual-Quad Core with 2GB of RAM and a Kona 3 card. My media is on 2 internal hard drives - SATA 7200, 500GB each, speed=3gigabits.
I'm working in Apple Prores 422 HQ. When I open my project and play my sequence it plays back fine. I send a clip to Motion (with embed motion content and launch motion checked) and apply motion stabilization; save then quit. I go back over to FCP and I can't play my timeline for more than a couple of seconds before I get dropped frames. It's not just when I play the new Motion clip in the timeline - it's everywhere and it's random. This happens before and after I render. If I remove the motion clip I still get dropped frames. If I shut down FCP without saving and reopen the project (no Motion work having been preserved) it plays back fine. I've tried trashing prefs to no avail. Any advice? I like the elegance of this workflow...if it works! I'm wondering if this is a bug that updating to FCP 6.0.1 will fix.
Thanks in advance for any thoughts...

Alright...I tried a clip using Smoothcam and you're right - fabulous results, analyzation and render times were actually quite fast. However - same dropped frame problem I was getting with Motion. Exact same problem. My system is beefy enough for this, right? I have 2 GB of RAM - I had 5 GB but AJA had me remove 3GB so that I could capture Prores HQ (apparently the Kona 3 with v 4.0 software has a bug that won't allow it to work well on systems with over 2GB of RAM - i.e. couldn't capture prores without dropping frames)
I'm trashing prefs and restarting my system. If this doesn't work I'm going to try updating everything unless anyone out there knows what might be the culprit.

Help needed with drop frames

Hello everyone,
A few weeks ago with the help of some of the participant on this panel I change my settings and move my scratch disk from my internal HD to the external one.
Since then it seems that I have a lot of drop frames on the video as well as on the audio: and it seems that the problem is worsening.
Any suggestion to try to remedy to this problem will be greatly appreciated.
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I guess I have a problem with my external drive (LaCie 250 GB). I was working this afternoon and I noticed that I had a lot of dropped frames in a clip in the viewer and when replaying the same clip the drop frames were not at the same place.
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30p with a Canon XA10 - need help with Final Cut 7 "FIELD DOMINANCE" setting and an explanation of "drop frames". Thank you!!

I shot footage using a Canon XA10 and there are issues with the HD quality not looking as crisp as it should. I am trying to make sure the settings in Final Cut are right. Need help confirming what should be in "Field Dominance" --- have seen discussions about making sure it's set to "none" but I'm confused as to what to do.
Also someone suggested I use "drop frames" to change from 30p to 24p within Final Cut. He couldn't explain how to do it so any input appreciated as well as any thoughts on whether this is a good option to try.

If you're shooting 30p, field dominance should be set to none. Since you need to use log and transfer to bring this material in to fcp, I would assume it would be set correctly automatically. Are you sure you've set the camera properly?
Drop frames will not change 30 p to 24p. Dropframe timecode simply refers to the number assigned to each frame which drops an occasional number (not any frames) so the timecode duration is the actual duration, since 30p videoi is actually 29.97 frames per second which each frame assigned a timecode number.
This is very basic video stuff and requires some basic knowledge of video. Wikipedia is a pretty good resource for much of this stuff plus there are lots of great resources on the web. Look up interlaced and progressive video, 24p and 30p.
And as far as judging quality, you can only get an accurate view of the quality in fcp when you have a video card attached to a video monitor. The viewer and canvas are only an approximation of what the quality is. Minimally, set the canvas or viewer to 100% to get a better approximation of the quality.

Dropped frames when playing section in the timeline w/audio, Viewer plays fine. Plays for 1 sec, no sound, nothing on audio meters. Problem out the blue, made no conscious changes. FCP 7.0.3. iMac, 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5. OS10.8.4. Thanx.

New to FCP. Dropped frames when playing section in the timeline w/audio, Viewer plays fine tho. Plays for bout 1 sec with no sound, nothing showing coming through the audio meters. Problem came out the blue, made no conscious changes to settings. FCP 7.0.3. iMac, 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5. OS10.8.4. If any other info needed please let me know, will be happy to provide it. Thanx.

Thank you for the help. Below is my Source footage and sequence settings.
The other footage I have on the timeline is an mp3 file made in Garage Band and some footage I sent to Motion to edit. I do have some offline media on there since I switched computers but FCP had been working fine for a few months with it on there. I have not tried trashing my FCP Preferences. If I did would I have to back up my project?

HELP! ProMax/Premiere Pro dropping frames on 4k footage.

My system:
ProMAX ONE Plus - Hero - (Rivas) Base Configuration
CPU
[2x] 8 Core Intel Xeon E5-2687w v2 @ 3.4GHz
[2x] 12 Core Xeon E5-2697v2 @ 2.7GHz
Total CPU Cores Total CPU Cache
16, 24 50 MB, 60 MB
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8 Slots Up to 128GB DDR3 1866MHz)
•ProMAX ONE RAM Kingston 1x8GB 1600MHz DDR3 Reg ECC DRx4 - 16 (128 gb of ram total)
•ProMAX FastMAX FX8+ 32TB *MUST ADD CONTROLLER CARD ATTO R680 or Areca 1882*
•ProMAX ONE Plus Internal RAID 32TB
•ProMAX ONE - LTO 6 Tape Drive Kit
•PNY QUADRO K5000 4GB GDDR5 PCI-E for WIN
•EVGA Corporation GEFORCE GTX TITAN SUPERCLOCKED
•Crucial M4 512GB 2.5" Internal Solid State Drive
•Blackmagic Design Decklink 4K Extreme
•Red Rocket Card
•Retrospect v.7.7 Professional for Windows
My work flow:
•From my Red (Scarlet) to internal 32tb internal raid storage.
•From my internal raid into Premiere Pro.
•Cache and project are stored in separate folders on the internal raid
Out of the 128 gb ram that is on the system I have only 6 reserved for other applications.
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The goal was to have a machine and software that I could put 4k files (r3d) into without having to render. Without having any lag, any skipped frames or bumps in the editing process. I wanted the biggest and baddest machine on the planet. I want to move as fast as I can think/edit in 4k r3d format (or any 4k for that matter) without having to render anything, in full resolution, no dropped frames.
The problem is I can't do that, I know I should be able to, right?
This is a beast of a system, few machines get built better than this (maybe only IMAX machines), yet I have a hard time just putting the 4k footage into the timeline and playing it, let alone editing and coloring a full project.
When I put footage in a timeline I get the yellow link across the top. When I hit play it will play fine for a moment and then start skipping frames like crazy, and that's just playing the footage at full resolution.
Ex: A 14:51 clip will have 14,823 dropped frames, in just the play back alone. I can not edit a 2hr movie like this.
I'm lost. Help! What am I doing wrong?
A 16 core machine with a 128 gb or ram running top of the line graphics cards (and a red card) should be able to manage this type of work load, right?Especially for the price (40k).
Any answers?

Right now there is not any editing software that can handle Red 4K full res. Red CineX Pro is Red's utility. They may be building to an editor eventually but it's not that yet.
The System you have by spec is close to the ideal choice for Red media in a long form or complex project/AE comp workflow. Those specs would give you the best realtime performance ceiling you will get with Red 4K/5K. That means more FX or complex sequences are able to playbackr ealtime without rendering. I would definitely have selected a different SSD OS drive and dropped the Quadro k5000 especially with the Blackmagic card in there. Having the 2 video cards with the Rocket and Blackmagic card besides the Raid card was a bad idea. That is more than saturating the PCI-E bandwidth and adding to the latency which is likely part of the reason your half resolution playback is not good. I have a single 12 Core Xeon E5 2697 V2 on a X79 board with 32GB of ram and that handles 4 layers of R3D 4K at half resolution with a 770GTX 4GB card. That Titan card should be chewing that media up at 1/2 res especially with the red card. When I did testing with the Red cards the load on the Dual Xeon's with the Titan was less than 10% with 4 layers of Red 4K in Premiere. Likely part of the problem is the Quadro is currently being used for the GPU acceleration instead of the Titan. You have to go into the Nvidia Control Panel and set the CUDA GPU to the Titan for GPU acceleration. That is under Manage 3D settings. By default Adobe uses the GPU that outputs to the main monitor for Windows unless this is changed to a specific card. Beyond that you will probably have to remove 1 of those video cards soon.
The workflow absolutely can be in Red and Proxy is not worth the trouble. If you can proxy then there is no reason you should be able to native with 2K preview. I would much rather have the 2K preview with 4K native workflow than proxy head aches.
Hope that helps. You can contact me directly if you have questions. My email is [email protected]

HELP! Dropped Frames

I changed my audio/video settings from DV/NTSC to Uncompressed 10 bit in logging VHS into FCP 4.5 HD. I already had footage on the timeline and was told that is a big no no to change in the middle of a project. My question is, how can I get it back to where it was before without having my timeline footage go offline? I changed it back and I'm getting dropped frames during log and capture. I tried copying the clip from the timeline and opening a new project and it went offline. HELP!

Your post is a bit confusing.
I already had footage on the timeline and was told that is a big no no to change in the middle of a project.<<</div>
Change what...?
I changed it back and I'm getting dropped frames during log and capture.<<</div>
You changed 'what' back?...do you mean you changed your capture settings from 10bit, back to DV?
Please clarify your procedures.

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