HR-Org Modell Distribution

Hello,
i want to distribute my organisation modell from the HR system in an other SAP system to realize the indirect role assignment.
It should work in an CUA system landscape which works fine. The HR system works as the central system in that landscape. From there i want to distribute the organisation modell in every system which is an daughter-system in that CUA landscape.
I followed the instructions in the document "Indirect role assignment with HR-org" but if iy want to distribute the modell with that report RHALEINI irt ends with no errors but i can't find that modell with transaction ppome in the daughter system.
What can be the problem?

No i recognized that it's necessary t plan the Report RPDAPP01 with that type HRMD_ABA. All ou's and other were exported in the daughter systems.
Only the Employees are missing.

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Thanks shalini,
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HRALX     PNUMB     1     Business Partner Number Assignment (Employee)
HRALX     PQUAL          Import Qualifications
HRALX     PRTON          Log Active
HRALX     PSUBG          Business Partner Subgroup (Employees)
HRALX     PSYNO          Log: Organizational Units in Dialog
HRALX     PSYNP          Log: Employees in Dialog
HRALX     HRAC     X     Activate HR Integration
HRALX     MERID     X     Enter Integration Error in IDOC
HRALX     MSGRE     0     Recipient of Error Message When Creating BP
HRALX     OADBP          Business Partner of Standard Address
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HRALX     PALEP          Log: Employees in ALE
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HRALX     PNUMB     1     Business Partner Number Assignment (Employee)
HRALX     PQUAL          Import Qualifications
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we have done the initial download of org model from ECC 5.0 to CRM 5.0.
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This subject is a bit obscure. At least in CRM 4.0 the organizational unit upload (spro activity) worked very poorly, and I had to manually correct a lot of units.
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