Huge mpegs

Hello.
I recently imported 8 miniDV tapes (4 angles, 2 1/2 hours of footage per camera) off of a sony HVR-Z1U to a PC, using Adobe Premier 2.0.
Basically it was 4 full tapes (~2 hrs) that size up b/t 10 & 11 gbs; and then 4 partial tapes (~30 min) that size up around 6 gbs. It's HDV, so everything came in at mpeg-2.
I'm currently transferring (via ethernet cable) the files from the PC to a Mac Pro with 2 x 2Ghz dual core Intel with 3 gb ram @ 667 mhz.
After transferring a couple, I wanted to check the playback, but to my consternation, the system hangs whenever it tries to access it. If I click on the mpeg in Finder, it hangs when loading the preview; if I double click to open it in quicktime, it hangs when loading quicktime.
So, this isn't an FCP question per se, but these minor problems will inevitably disrupt the editing. I'd like to keep these in HD, if I can, but I know that mpeg2 is difficult to edit with. Are there any suggestions for helping my system deal with these huge files? Is it normal that my computer would be frightened into submission by their mere sight? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
If you need more info, please let me know.

editing on your PC might be best.
But I wanted to clear up a few things...
H.264 is a delivery format not an editing format.
Mpeg and H.264 are both processor intensive formats, hence the long encode.
If you use compressor try DV for SD or DVC pro for HD.
"after 8 clips, that's too much for my HD."<
you aren't putting your media on your system drive, are you? Not good at all(!)
Good luck!

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HELP - Mpeg Editing

Hi,
This is my first post here.
English is not my primary language so expect stone-age English.
This said, Im posting here because I just received my Canon HV20 and after some recording tests I need now to isolate specific takes from that MiniDV tape to later use in a more sense movie time line.
Now I just wonder how you guys do to edit your MPEG 1440x1080 HDV files preserving the original MPEG HDV quality?
Since capturing a MiniDV tape generates a long MPEG file, how do you do to isolate specific takes and export/save them to later assemble a new lossless HDV footage (like a movie)?
Explaining:
1. Record a MiniDV tape using the Canon HV20.
2. After record the tape use the HDV/Firewire output port to export the MiniDV tape to Adobe Premiere Pro (or any different software).
3. Now that I have the full tape in a huge MPEG file how can I isolate the takes I want to export/save loosely?
How do you guys do to export/save that isolated takes lossless?
Do you export maintaining the MPEG file format?
Doesnt this method recompress the original MPEG file again losing HDV quality?
Do you export the isolated takes using any other format like uncompressed AVI files? Uncompressed AVI files are not to heavy to edit in real time resulting in frame skip?
Please, Im just starting and Im very confused about the best way to edit and maintain HDV 1440x1080 MPEG quality imagery in extracted/isolated takes from the main HDV MPEG file.
Many thanks.
Ben

> Since capturing a MiniDV tape generates a long MPEG file, how do you do to isolate specific takes and export/save them to later assemble a new lossless HDV footage (like a movie)?
Premiere does not support Scene Detect, which will break your clips up into smaller files based upon breaks in timecode.
Use a free utility HDV Split it will Scene Detect your tapes.
http://strony.aster.pl/paviko/hdvsplit.htm
With regards to quality, capturing from tape is merely a
i transfer
of the info. What is on your tape will end up on your timeline.

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I have been trying to publish an iphoto slideshow that I had exported as a movie for weeks. My mac people can see it, my PC family members cannot! I tried to make it small for the web, changed the filename to mp4 from mpv4, but PC people still could not see it. So I tried to put the slideshow movie in as a huge .mpeg and it disappeared. ( I had made an avi file but it looked horrible so used the equally as large but better ,mpeg)
I am getting the idea that it can only be done with imovie! Is than an authoritative step by step on iphoto 08,quicktime pro, and Iweb so I can put all these things together?

Don't use the Finder to change the file extension. Not only is it folly but it breaks the links used in your iWeb page code.
Don't use AVI. It is a dead container discontinued by its authors (Microsoft) years ago.
Don't use MPEG-1 (1991 format).
Default exports from iPhoto to QuickTime formats use the newer H.264 video codec which requires any machine (Mac or PC) have QuickTime version 7 installed. If they can't install version 7 they can't view your file.

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Hello. I have been jacking with this program for a month now with some success and some failure. Today I was revisited by something I thought I resolved: My webpage disappeared from my album page that contains all the links to my pages. It is gone from both my computer version and of course the published version. It shows in the sidebar in iweb, but not on the page?
http://web.me.com/tedcarlos/FamilyTrips_and_visits/Family_Trips_and_visits/Family_Trips_andvisits.html
I had deleted this missing page before and stated over and it seem to work, but after my last edit, it was gone again.
I have been trying to publish an iphoto slideshow that I had exported as a movie for weeks. My mac people can see it, my PC family members cannot! I' tried to make it small for the web, changed the filename to mp4 from mpv4, but PC people still could not see it. So I tried to put the slideshow movie in as a huge .mpeg and it disappeared. ( I had made an avi file but it looked horrible so used the equally as large but better ,mpeg)
I am getting the idea that it can only be done with imovie! Is than an authoritative step by step on iphoto 08,quicktime pro, and Iweb so I can put all these things together?

You can't burn a video dvd using just PSE. Adobe wants you to use Premiere Elements to create the final video disc. If you have PRE, use that. If not, just output the slideshow as a WMV file and use whatever burning software you have, even Windows DVD maker, to create the actual video disc.
The only kind of video disc PSE can make is the hateful VCD format, which is always terrible in quality and not well supported anymore. It was a good idea back when DVD burners were very expensive, but it's archaic now.

Disappearing web page & tale of unplayable iphoto slide -show

Hello. I have been jacking with this program for a month now with some success and some failure. Today I was revisited by something I thought I resolved: My webpage disappeared from my album page that contains all the links to my pages. It is gone from both my computer version and of course the published version. It shows in the sidebar in iweb, but not on the page?
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Your link works just fine. Leave it alone.
Don't use the Finder to edit file names after your Site is Published in iWeb.
http://web.me.com/tedcarlos/FamilyTrips_andvisits/Media/Todd%20visit%2008.mov
A direct link to your QuickTime file:
202 MB's 23 minutes in duration at 640X480 dimension. It contains 6 .mp3 files and an MPEG-4 Video track (good choice for PC visitors).
202 MB's is just too much in file size, download time and bandwidth usage. Your iWeb page design doesn't even use the full 640X480 size.
Use QuickTime Pro to "Export". Use "Movie to QuickTime Movie" and click the "Options" button to change the dimension to 320X240 (fits your iWeb layout) via the "Size" button. Use the "Settings" button to change the video codec to H.264 (QuickTime version 7 required). Leave the frame rate the same ("Current"). Set the "Data Rate" to 800.
Check the Audio check box and click its Option button. Select AAC as the audio codec and use 128 as the bit rate.
Export the file and wait for the conversion. This new file will be 4 or 5 times smaller in file size.
Name the file identical to the original (Todd visit 08.mov) and save it to your Desktop.
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Not getting an option of exporting in mpeg 4 format? AVI file the size of the file is extremely huge

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You need to learn about encoding. The default file type is Lossless for a reason. If you are using Ray-tracing and you have a supported Cuda card you must use the Adobe Render Cue. If you are not using Ray-traced rendering then you should be using the Adobe Media Encoder.
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I Know I am in the Wrong Room, but I Need Some Help with an Mpeg 2 File

Hi, all--
Forgive me as best you can--I am in a fairly desperate situation. Allow me to explain, and please feel free to contact me at [email protected] if you know a lot about this stuff I'm going to describe.
We have a project, 29 minutes long. It is a slideshow of paintings with original music by me.
I live in central Mexico (love it!). However, I was forced to use a video editor who has been a dunce so far. No matter what I ask him for, whether it is a version in a specific format or an edit, I get something different. Every time he has fixed a problem, he has created a new one.
Now his house was broken into and all of his computers were stolen--I suspect he only has low quality backup files of the project.
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Doug

First of all, Hunt--thanks for responding!
"First, where are you playing the MPEG-2, that you see that jitter?"
On both a MacBook Pro, an Acer laptop and my Mac Tower. I would love to think that it is a problem with the playback system, and that if I merely send the file off to the duplicator they won't have the same problem. Maybe that is the case...I don't know if I have a choice rather than sending it off to see. But it happens in the same spots, in the same way, on all three of the players so I'm a little reluctant to have faith.
"Another thing that can cause jitter in an MPEG-2 is the Bit-Rate - higher the Bit-Rate, the better the quality, but the larger the file. For a DVD, one is limited by the total Bit-Rate (both Audio & Video), but with longer prodcutions, some users choose too low a Bit-Rate. If this is the issue, one would need to go back to the original Project and do a new Export/Share."
Of course, but in the case there is no more 'original project.' It is gone like the wind, stolen along with his computer and backups.
I think I am stuck using one of two files as my master: a DVD he burned where I only see the stutter/vibration/jitter once, or the mpeg2 file where I see it three times. Hopefully, the duplication house can rip if off of one of them and not see the jitter. I know that in audio, my personal filed, you can do a lot to enhance already existing sound--EQ, compression, tape saturation emulation software, etc. I guess I'm hoping there is some kind of analog to the video world that address jitter after a source has been printed--if indeed the source has been printed to be jittery.
Thanks,
Doug

Why is my iPhone 5 skipping/not playing any of my songs in an mpeg-1 layer 3 file format? This only started happening after I updated to iOS 8.

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I have a large collection of music and video on iTunes (14k items, 60GB), and ever since upgrading to the latest Itunes I've noticed I can start playing a song, but then the UI will freeze for 10-15 seconds once it's about 8-9 second into playing the song - the sound continues, but the interface becomes unresponsive. Looking at the other threads here, sounds like I'm not the only one with the problem.
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Apple (or an Apple employee, to be precise) actually FINALLY reacted with the following post (see the end of the locked thread):
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For MOV, Animation and Photo-JPEG are good choices.
For MPEG2, I-frame only MPEG2 at high bit rates like 100 Mbps is a good choice.
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First off this is a great forum. It has answered many questions. This is my first post.
This is my workflow.
1. I have a massive library of Betacam tapes that I am archiving ( over 2000) average length 45 minutes)
2. I capture them from a betacam deck, thru a canopus adcvc 110, at SD, No problems.
3. I wind up with media files that are like 15 gigs. I have over 40 terabytes of external storage, I use firewire 800 (so far, so good)
4. I then take the media files, drag them to the timeline, edit etc, add graphics from motion etc
5. I then simply play the timeline via firewire to a dv, video deck, and send the tape to the tv station, they closed caption it and it hits the air
(so life is great, this works perfect)
Here comes the question
1. After having done that, I use the "send to compressor" function, to generate an mpeg 4 file, which instead of 12 gigs is like less than one, it looks great.
2. This file is then uploaded to an ftp site, given a description, and then put on the website for viewing or purchase.
3, since I have like 2000 tapes, do the math, if each one takes 12 gigs....lots of drives.
4. Most tapes are NOT edited for television broadcast, I just find a good in and out point for a fade, compress it, shoot it to ftp and im done.
5. Recently I have begun deleting the 12 gig files, sine I have the messages in mpeg 4...to avoud buying several petabytes of storge.
SOOOO
After all that, here is my question.
If I want to edit a program that I have in the archive, that the decision has been made to broadcsat for some reason, If I drag the MPEG$ file onto the timeline, edit it from a 50 minute down to a 28:30, drop in green screen cut aways, grapics, lower thirds animated transitions between clips, titles, etc...
Render it.
THEN play it directly from the timeline via firewire to the mini dv deck...
How much quality will I lose on the base video, which is mpeg 4, as compared to the 12 gig media file?
Does it "re- compress" in some way?
should I just suck it up and pay for storage for the 12 gig files that probably will never use for broadcast?
or can I use an MPEG 4 file as my "main video" and not come out looking like an amature moron?
Does any of that make sense? or is it TMI from an idiot?
I come from the analoge days, D-3's and D-5's, grass valley 200 switcher, pinnacle dve's, 18 Ikegamis shooting NFL football. Betacams, D-1's, sattelite uplinks. all in good old NTSC 525...
So bear with an old man.
Any assistance would be great.
Can I edit using an MPEG4 file and not get burned?
Be well all.
Michael D, Fodor.
heritagechristiancenter.com
San diego.
cya stay out of the heat...

You probably won't have a huge loss in quality-- as you say yourself, the MPEG4 looks pretty good for it's file size. I won't get into a debate about whether or not it's the best option for archival, that's another thread.
But as long as you're editing in FCP (7), you'll want to convert it to something else before importing. ProRes is a pretty standard choice. Otherwise it'll be nothing but pain. You can still archive in MPEG-4, but for those that you pull from the archive to re-broadcast, recompress them to ProRes.

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