Hwr-m25e / 16x9 vs. 4x3 / edit to tape problem

printing DV project out of FCP 6 I am not able to ser the recorder into 4x3 aspec ratio ..
it is just random that I am able to see the timeline and then to print in 4x3
usualy it will just strech the picture to 16x9 ebven the computer is previewing 4x3..
changes to anamorphic and back with refresh A/V devices have no inpact on this..
please help..

Have you checked that both your Sequence settings & the relevant clips are not set to Anamorphic ? They both need to be the same.

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Hi all,
I am trying to edit to tape going form FCP 504 to a Sony DSR 45 DVCam deck. There seems to be no problems going to the SP Deck, however if I enter the in-point (as per manual) in the master mode edit to tape window, and then drag the sequence over, nothing seems to happen. I thought this may have somethign to do with the "insert timecode" button, which seems to remain yellow all the time... is this switched on or off? Either way I couldn't get it to change state.
I have striped the tape at hour 10:00:00:00. The mastering window never seems to calculate the running time when hooked up to the Sony DSR deck, so I guess its just not seeing the sequence.
For a while I did seem to progress but got a message to the effect that the deck was not in the right "mode" what ever that means. I have looked extensively in the settings for the deck but cannot see anything, I have also tried various different output settings and still no luck. The RS422 seems fine controlling the deck in non edit to tape mode, so I just cannot figure this out.
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
Nick
G5 dual 2Gb Mac OS X (10.4.6) AJA card, 3GB RAM, DVCam & SP Decks

Once again hmmmm.....
I set all my setting for the DVCAM deck to use firewire and all the FCp settings for firewire. Even this ws not working! So I then repatched the video using the components in and hey presto its all works.
It seems I am using the firewire to control the deck but the AJA Kona to output the actual video signal, eventhough no setting should be using the Kona - only direct firewire to firewire! Is this the opposite to what you said patrick? It all just seems so random really, but I guess it has something to do with the Kona and how thats controlling output... not sure.
Just glad to be back up and running, although I have heard that the problem you suggest re frame accuracy may become an issue, but I read that it only usually has an effect on long programs.
Thanks for your help, however please do suggest any reasons behind why only this set up works for me. I'd love to know whats going on for future problem solving.
Regards, Nick
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Panasonic AJ-D455 edit to tape problem

I'm trying to perform a cut back to a the above deck which is a DVCPro25 PAL unit which has the optional FireWire card fitted.
I can get it to work if I use FireWire control but not if I use RS422 control. Now this is a pain for three reasons:
1. RS422 is the normal method of control of this deck for when I'm capturing into FCP as it's quicker to cue up and generally has more responsive tape transport.
2. Switching to FireWire control for output involves diving into the menus to change some settings and then switching back again when I want to capture.
3. If there is a problem during the edit to tape, I would like to be able to use insert editing which (if I'm correct), is not possible under FireWire control. The deck is edit capable BTW.
Has anybody got this deck to work for output from FCP using RS422?
Brian

Try trashing or moving your FCP prefs. here's a dandy utility: http://fcprescue.andersholck.com/
It will reset to all standard settings, and I'd experiment with LTC+VITC and VITC alone in/with the machine's device settings, if a preset doesn't work.
Post the exact versions of FCP, OS, and QuickTime you are running too. You're doing this on which mac?
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Edit to tape problem

Hello,
I have tried to eddit to tape a sequence with two different cameras but it doesn't work.
Fist I try to to put black and timecode on my miniDV but it lunches the camera and rec images form the the lence. It means it uses my tape. Ok, I have a used tape with timecode.
I try to assemble on the tape a sequence and FCP tels me the my tape has no timecode.
This is unbelievable. I'v don every thing. My DV cassette is not locked, it is on the rec mode. The 2 camera I tried to do the operation with has no specific lock mode in the menus to stop the cassette receiving information from the FireWire.
My A/V settings are all the same. DA PAL 48khz anamorphosé fore sequence and capture preset and for the device control panel i tried FireWire PAL and Basic but it is the same problem.
What can I do ?
Thanks for reading.
Message was edited by: Napoléon23

Another thought... capture a short clip in imovie, and see if it can record back to one of the cameras... if it does, that sort of rules out a hardware problem. I'd trash the preferences in any case. Just because it's a new install it doesn't mean they aren't corrupt.
Further, any time you install a new OS or a new version of Studio, it's really best to do it cleanly performing an erase and install of your startup disk of the OS, update it, then install studio and update it all the way too.
But all that said, your problem is not common, so it's likely either a bad install of software, or a hardware problem.
Further, If you're using firewire drives and looping through them, that is often the culprit of this sort of behavior.
Jerry

Edit to tape audio promlem - sounds like "chorus" effect

I have tried to Edit to Tape an HDV Sequence, down converted to SD, to a Digibeta deck.
When I monitor (headphone out of digibeta deck) while recording it sounds normal. When I rewind and check tape it sounds like the audio is "doubled up", almost like a very short chorus effect is on the audio. as well as this I can hear what sounds like tape crackle now and again.
However - when I do a straight crash record from the timeline - the audio plays back fine, no crackle.
So thinking it was an edit to tape settings problem i clicked on the audio button in the edit to tape window and notice audio was set to ALL ON. I changed this to A1 and A2 on, thinking that my extra audio tracks (which I had disabled, these where the original audio, not the OMF exported stereo mix) were somehow going down the SDI anyway...
No luck - did the edit to tape again and still sounded the same.
My heart rate has returned to normal now as the network kindly will accept the crash record with non standard timecode - but I of course still want to find out the problem so this doesn't happen again next week....
The Sequence was HDV 1080i, via a Decklink HD Extreme Capture Card, set to down convert to anamorphic 16:9. Sony Digibeta DVW-A500P deck.
Anyone know what the problem could be?
thanks
Hugh

for the benefit of anyone who searches for forum for a similar problem - it appears to have been a sync issue. changing "out ref" to "input video" appears to have fixed it.

Jittery motion when editing to tape via Blackmagic SD

I have a situation that has me a bit perplexed, and I'm hoping one of you gurus can help. We will shoot DVCAM footage, capture into FCP (now at v5.03, but this occurred with earlier versions as well), and then export a quicktime movie (not using QuickTime conversion). I then bring the movie into After Effects, and do some compositing work, and render using Uncompressed 8 bit settings. I create a new sequence in FCP with matching settings (uncompressed 8 bit), and import the movie file I created in AE. Everything looks great on my computer monitor, but when I edit to tape, any moving objects (either effects or people in the video) jitter visibly when viewed on my broadcast monitor, and the resulting BetaSP tape. There are no unrendered sections of the sequence, and the the frame dominance is the same on the imported clip and the sequence.
I can apply the de-interlace filter in FCP, and that improves the image somewhat, but it's still visible.
Any suggestions?

... and the the frame dominance is the
same on the imported clip and the sequence.
it seems that the filed dominance is wrong:
upper or lower field dominace is determined by your blackmagic card and the codec used.
in your sequence settings use easy setup to load the correct settings for the codec you are using with your blackmagic card. after that, read what the field dominance is set to. use the same field dominance when rendering in AE.
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kurt

Having trouble with audio edit to tape, print to video ok

Hi all, please go easy on me, this is my first post.
I am having difficulty getting audio on to tape via 'edit to tape'.
The hardware is blackmagic decklink extreme, feeding component video and analoge audio to a UVW-1800P.
I can do a print to video on a crash record and the audio works that way, but edit to tape does not.
I have tried both deck link and built in audio in the audio settings and the FCP a/v settings, seperate and ganged output settings, I have set the insert settings to 2 channel Sony, reloaded the decklink drivers.
The irritating thing is the audio is there whilst cutting, but as soon as I try edit to tape there is complete silence. The important thing is that it worked a few weeks back but does not now, it must be a setting?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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I had this same problem and this resolved it for me:
-Go to your "Settings" icon and click on the "General" tab.
-About 2/3 way down the page you will see "Use side switch to:" - make sure "mute" is checked rather than "lock rotation."
-Then make sure the side switch, located next to the volume toggle switch on the side of your ipad, is moved to the right (no red dot showing).
My audio worked fine in embedded videos after I did those two things. Hope it works for you.

Edit to tape confusing drop frame and non drop frame

This is a re-creation of a dead thread I found from June 6, 2006. This is the exact problem this other user was having.
OS 10.4.7
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Dual G5 2.5
4.5 GB RAM
KONALH
Trying to edit to a Sony DVW-A500 (Digibeta) in Drop Frame mode.
Read Below for deets.
Problem: When working with a drop-frame sequence, and editing to tape, the program is edited to the tape with an offset of 3 seconds and 18 frames at the end of one hour.
Reproducible: Yes.
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Create a drop-frame sequence.
2. Edit the sequence in step 1.
3. Perform an edit to tape with the sequence edited in step 2.
What should happen: The sequence should be edited to tape at the time it occurs in the timeline.
What does happen: The sequence is edited to the tape 3 seconds and 18 frames after it should be!
Other observations: 3 seconds and 18 frames is exactly how much time is not in an hour of drop-frame time when compared to non-drop frame time. If you drop two (2) frames in every minute that does not end in zero, the math works out to 2*54=108 dropped frames in an hour. For the sake of simple mathematics, lets say there are 30 frames in a second. So 108/30= 3 with a remainder of 18, or 3 seconds and 18 frames.
It's as if FCP is getting confused about drop and non-drop timecode when the sequence is drop-frame. If anyone can offer any insights, confirmation, or resolutions for what I am seeing, it would be appreciated.
Thanks for reading!

So is the timeline a drop frame timeline, starting at 1:00:00:00?
And then is the DBeta tape prestriped (at least enough to do an assemble edit) to start the program at 01:00:00:00?
In other words, is the FCP timeline timecode matching the Dbeta tape timecode in a 1:1 relationship before you attempt to Edit to Tape?
Thinking further: FCP can't really confuse the two timecodes, it's dependent on the operator to tell it what to do. When it outputs it's not outputing timecode or looking even really looking for timecode. It's looking for your IN point in the Edit to Tape tool.
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Edit to tape in Final Cut Studio 2 question

This entire week we've been dividing time and shoots using one camera, a Panasonic DVX100A. As a result I think the settings on our camera and computer have changed a bit between shoots. That being said I'm having a problem doing an 'Edit to Tape' from the file menu in Final Cut Pro 6.0.3. When the Edit to Tape window comes up, we set the in point there after pulling over the Sequence we want to edit to tape on the camera monitor for the recorder it says it's recording. However, all I see it a blue screen with the 'REC' notice at the top. Since we've done this using this camera a few times I'm not sure what settings may have changed. To sum up, I need to know what has to change in order for me to effectively edit a sequence to tape in FCP 6. Thanks (most definitely) in advance for your help!

Alex, thanks for your help. I didn't notice one of the FCP settings for my camera had been changed. Funny how working at 2:45 a.m. can sneak up on your brain.
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Edit to tape INSERT & NO AUDIO

Ok, so i have a brand new Mac, Decklink Blackmagic Extreme HD card in it. Everything works properly, except the insert edit to tape. When I perform an assemble edit through the "Edit to tape" window it works fine, but cannot get the insert edit to insert audio?? Using a Sony UVW-1800 deck. Performed a test on the deck with another editor and it worked fine. Using the Blackmagic 10Bit Easy setup thus far. A bit confused about what the device control settings should be, or where I should be looking to get FCPS2 to tell the deck to record audio when doing an insert edit. And before you ask, yes I have selected "all on" from the "edit to tape" window audio pop-up.
I need help soon, as this is how we put all our productions to master tapes for the company!! Thanks in advance!!

Alright, if you have a Decklink card, and a BetaSP deck... this will be VERY helpful!!!
http://www.blackmagic-design.com/support/detail.asp?techID=118
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Edit to tape... Cannot Assemble...

Hi, I am trying to edit a 30sec commercial spot to tape to get it to the local cable company ASAP. I have a Powermac G5 outputting to a Multibridge extreme, controling a Panasonic AJ-D455 DVCPro deck. I have the timeline all set to export but when I drag it over to the Edit to Tape window, all options (insert, assemble, preview) are grayed out. Please help me.
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Paul

First of all, why not go out Firewire? That will keep the output a digital copy of your timeline.
If you insist on using the Decklink, make sure your settings are correct (device settings) - you should be able to control the deck prior to output. Do you get an error message when you click the black tape button?
Patrick

Edit to Tape not working for me!!! PLEASE HELP!!!!!

Hey everyone,
I've researched this in many forums and have found what could be the answer, only to try and still get NOTHING!!!
When I drag seq. to ETT window I get the pop-up but 'insert', 'assemble', and 'preview' are kind of greyed out, and don't let me drop anything in, i.e sequence from browser, from viewer, clips, etc.
GOAL:
To Output Final Sequence from FCP6 to DVCPRO HD Tape, (Panasonic 1200a Deck). WITH TIMECODE for Broadcast at 29.97/59.94!!
SPECS:
*MAC PRO-*
Quad Core Intel Xeon Processor
3 Ghz
2 Processors
8 cores
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Bus Speed 1.33 Ghz
Boot Rom Ver. MP21.007F.B06
SMC Ver. 1.15f3
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*AJA KONA 3 Ver. 5.1*
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TCG MODE – REGEN
RUN MODE - REC
TC SOURCE - INT
Footage was shot 720P 24PN on Panasonic HVX200. Ingested via P2 Cards/P2 Store, (W/ REMOVE ADVANCED PULLDOWN FRAMES checked).
Project was edited in a 23.98 timeline.
Have tried: Exporting to QT at both 29.97 and 59.94—then re-importing into FCP with a new timeline w/ matching settings.
I have been told that FCP doesn’t produce TC ‘going out’ and that essentially we are looking to 'MATCH-EDIT' to timecode on tape.
I have Black and coded tape to 00:58:50;00
Project In point is 00:59:00;02 --for all intents/purposes this is a test seq. so OUT point is 01:01:00;07
I have complete Deck Control in FCP but, the problem I’m having is not being able to use the “Edit to Tape” func. In FCP. I can Black and Code the beginning of the tape, and the “ETT” window shows the corresponding timecode on the deck, but when I go to drop the sequence in the ‘Insert’ or ‘Assemble’ drop box, I get nothing? I don’t know if it’s the settings in the DECK, KONA CARD or FCP??
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That deck cannot do insert editing or assemble editing with proper show time to the 1200 deck. That is that decks big weakness. Only the 1400 deck has this ability. You'll have to crash record and then get the tape dubbed at a dub facility with the proper show code.
TRUST ME...I have been down this path.
Shane

Urgent Help Edit to tape!!!

Hi
I have a edit of 44 mins long , show that I have edit to tape a million times before and all the sudden it gets to a certain point on playout and stops everytime.
I have open a new project , exported the show to a QT file all the same problem!!!
When the QT file works in one place it bombs out on another place , I have turned off the unimited RT, deleted all un-used tracks , My drives speed are more than capable been working just fine for a longtime....and I have rebooted and changed tape ....
So what is it?
URGENT PLEASE HELP

Just to see whether you possibly have a corrupt project, try copy & paste to a new project.
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Drop-Frame v. Non-Drop Frame and Edit to Tape

System Configuration: G5 Dual 2.0, QT v7.0.4, FCP v5.0.4, OS X v10.4.6, KonaLH, Keyspan USA-28x USB-->Serial Adapter
Problem: When working with a drop-frame sequence, and editing to tape, the program is edited to the tape with an offset of 3 seconds and 18 frames.
Reproducible: Yes.
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Create a drop-frame sequence.
2. Edit the sequence in step 1.
3. Perform an edit to tape with the sequence edited in step 2.
What should happen: The sequence should be edited to tape at the time it occurs in the timeline.
What does happen: The sequence is edited to the tape 3 seconds and 18 frames after it should be!
Other observations: 3 seconds and 18 frames is exactly how much time is not in an hour of drop-frame time when compared to non-drop frame time. If you drop two (2) frames in every minute that does not end in zero, the math works out to 2*54=108 dropped frames in an hour. For the sake of simple mathematics, lets say there are 30 frames in a second. So 108/30= 3 with a remainder of 18, or 3 seconds and 18 frames.
It's as if FCP is getting confused about drop and non-drop timecode when the sequence is drop-frame. If anyone can offer any insights, confirmation, or resolutions for what I am seeing, it would be appreciated.
Thanks for reading!

This may be related to a "bug" or issue that has been around since FCP1. When FCP is using deck control over firewire, The timecode display will default to DF, even if the tape is NDF. Look closely at the timecode dispays in the edit to tape window. If you see a semicolon before the frames place, FCP is seeing the tape TC as DF. Play the tape until you see the TC display change to NDF, then re-set your in point. This has worked for me in the past.
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Jeremy,
Wish I could offer more help other than to say Blackmagic is usually pretty quick with a fix once they identify there is a problem. We're in Sydney, and had some problems with dropped frames a couple of years ago, and they did some very quick testing and realised that they hadn't tested there new drivers with Batch digitise - point is, they issued a fix (updated driver) extremely quickly.
Go through your supplier and see if you can get their ear, especially if you can identify the problem happening consistently.
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