Hyper transport configuration on my K8N Diamond Plus

Hey guys,
Maybe this ought to go in overclocks and modding.  I wasn't sure.  So move it if need be and thanks.  Just a couple of quick questions: 
1)  Where should I set the link width between the C51D NB chip and the NF4 SB chip?  8 or 16?
2)  Where should I set the frequency?  Keep it at 1000Mhz like the K8 to the NB?
Then when I'm in sli:
1)  Where should I set the link width between the C51D NB chip and the CK804 SB sli chip? 8 or 16?
2)  Where should I set the frequency?  1000Mhz again?
Thanks for looking.
J

Old thread I know.  Still messing with it.  Put this opty 185 in and am pretty impressed with the chip.  It was Prime stable to 2965 MHz with no vcore increase and everything stock on memory timings.  Now stable at 3016 MHz with only a slight vcore increase and memoy still stock.  It really impresses upon me the fact of the individuality of each overclock and components.  The opteron 180 I had in previously needed a large vcore increase to stay stable at 2761 MHz.  For anyone who cares I'll continue to post on the oc until I exhaust the potential.  With you guys pushing around 4 and 5 Ghz out there I know this is just old news.   

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  • MOVED: Hyper transport configuration on my K8N Diamond Plus

    This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
    https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=132723.0

    Old thread I know.  Still messing with it.  Put this opty 185 in and am pretty impressed with the chip.  It was Prime stable to 2965 MHz with no vcore increase and everything stock on memory timings.  Now stable at 3016 MHz with only a slight vcore increase and memoy still stock.  It really impresses upon me the fact of the individuality of each overclock and components.  The opteron 180 I had in previously needed a large vcore increase to stay stable at 2761 MHz.  For anyone who cares I'll continue to post on the oc until I exhaust the potential.  With you guys pushing around 4 and 5 Ghz out there I know this is just old news.   

  • ::cries:: K8N Diamond Plus

    Please reference https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=96355.0
    Current Configuration:
    MS-7220 (K8N Diamond Plus, currently running 1.0 BIOS, the beta didn't play nice)
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+
    Antec TruControl 550W
    NVidia GeForce 7900GT
    OCZ Platinum 2x1GB (Default timing 2.5-3-2-5 and 2-3-2-5 used with both problems existing)
    WD740 (Raptor 74GB)
    2xWD2500
    WD1200
    NEC DVD/RW
    From the previous topic, I managed to confirm my suspicions about the card in the worst possible way.
    I disabled the onboard IDE and plugged in the ATA card and booted. Windows came right up. So I disabled the SATA chips, booted into dos and flashed the SIL0680 to its newest BIOS (3.2.10), restarted, reenabled the sata and onboard IDE. Now the on board IDE doesn't detect anything. I've checked the ATA card to make sure it was the one that was flashed, and it was. I've check windows to see if any devices come up unknown... nothing. However, it doesn't appear that the IDE controller is present. I've flashed the system BIOS with 1.0 and still nothing is detected. It seems that the IDE controller is somehow permanantly disabled even though the BIOS reports on all channels (just as "Not Detected").

    I'll give the battery a shot in just a minute (I assumed the reset button was the equivilent, not to mention flashing bios frags the vnram and erases the bios checksum).
    SATA:
    WD740 (Raptor 74GB)
    PATA: (although currently not detected by bios)
    2xWD2500
    WD1200
    NEC DVD/RW
    I would like to point out that my configuration was fine before and just in case I did double check the master/slave relations and power out put reported by the bios.

  • 2 'problems' with the K8N Diamond Plus

    Hi there.
    I just bought a K8N Diamond Plus and I'm having some troubles installing my system in conjunction to my Decklink Extreme PCI-E ( http://www.decklink.com/products/sd/ ).
    Here's my configuration:
    MSI K8N Diamond Plus
    AMD64 X2 4400+
    ROSEWILL 6600GT PCI-E VGA
    Decklink Extreme PCI-E
    2GB  RAM ( 2 x 1gb) Kingston
    OCZ-520 12U Modstream Power Supply
    plus 6 HD's (7200rpm) and 1 DVD-+RW
    The problem is, when I try to initialize the system with the Decklink, which it's a PCI-E 1x, it just don't boot. Neither putting the Decklink on the 1x, nor in the 4x slot and nor in the 16x.
    The Decklink is working just fine in another system and doesn't seem to be a problem with this card.
    I wondered if there's any limitation in the K8N Diamond Plus with working with the ROSEWILL 6600GT PCI-E VGA plus the Decklink.
    =======================
    The other thig is that when I take off the Decklink, the system boots normaly but a message appears while booting: "Not enough space to copy PCI option ROM 00:13:00".
    And I don't have a clue about what's going on.
    =======================
    Please enlighten me with this questions if possible.
    Thank you very much.
    Greets.
    Igor Bineli

    Remove the battery away for 10 minutes, clear CMOS, start the system to load setup/optimized defauts in bios setup. After that, disable all onboard items in bios setup that you won't to use.  Save and exit.
    Plug ROSEWILL 6600GT PCI-E VGA card,  and start your system to check if there is the error message. If there is, borrow another brand VGA card to do a test.
    Besides, update your MB bios and driver version to the latest one.

  • K8N Diamond Plus, SLI and Creative X-Fi cards, anyone running similar?

    Hi there!
    I've got an ASUS A8N32-SLI board and my X-Fi card does not work with it, nor does it for many other people with similar setups.
    See here:
    http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&message.id=31426
    and here:
    http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&message.id=26289
    I get crackling and popping noises when running most games, e.g. BF2, Fear, FarCry.  When my 2x7800GTX's are in SLI mode it crackles loads, e.g. start far cry, click options, and listen.  When i disable SLI mode it crackles less, but it still crackles.  Many others encounter similar issues with their systems that are not identical but the symptoms are similar - high load = crackling/popping.
    My question is:
    Is anyone here sucessfully running any X-Fi card (music, fatality, elite pro, etc) with 2x video cards and NO crackling/popping in BF2, FEAR and FarCry?
    I've already had a replacement X-Fi card from creative which their tech guy said "should" fix it, lol, I'm wondering wether to replace my A8N32-SLI with an K8N Diamond Plus to fix the problem.  Besides, the MSI board has better PCI slot location and works with nTune too unlike the ASUS board.

    What's going on guys.
    I hate to see peep's having soooo many prob's and it sucks major BALLZ. The reason why I'm reposting is that I encountered a new issue. Not with my rig, but a friend's.
    We pretty much have the same setup. Differences are he's using 2GB of Corsair DDR400 (which is picking up as DDR333 as well), different branded video cards (I'm running two EVGA 7800GT's in SLi, he's running two BFG 7800GT's in SLi), XFi Platinum (me, Fatality Edition) and he's got a dedicated ITE RAID PCI card for his RAID from his previous rig. Configured his BIOS pretty much the same way I have it running (he wanted to Overclock his AMD x2 4400+ to 2.6 GHz), but when it came to installing Windows we kept getting BSOD's during installation. Looked over things numerous times and it didn't make sense. We resetted the BIOS to default settings and Windows went through without a hitch. We tried OC'ing it one more time and Windows was fine. But, when he installed and ran Quake 4, either Windows or the game would just lock up. He booted back into the BIOS and put the CPU back at stock frequency of 2.2 GHz. Game ran flawlessly afterwards. That points at the processor. The only differences were we both have different stock fans and his CPU was manufactured in July '05. Mine in Sept '05. His rig also reports the infamous "Phantom" PCI modem as well.
    Quake 4 is the only game he's got installed so far, but he reports everything is set to their highest qualities, including resolution. He said it runs great with no anomalies. He's going to install Dawn of War and Winter Assault later I know.
    Me? I haven't run into any issues with any games either, including F.E.A.R. as Hydrasworld asked. Both of our sound cards are in the Communication PCI Slot of the motherboard. My take on the OC issue is since we're using different proc's from different wafers, maybe my chip had revisions in September that the July proc my friend has didn't. Also, his heatsink has one less copper pipe I noticed. I'll still drop by for help. Good luck to you all and the only other thing I can add is try using the latest drivers for each piece of hardware you've got.
    LPB
    P.S. If you can and you purchased a retail version of the processor, on one of the sides of the carton insert for the processor, a date should be printed. Maybe that can explain some issues. Once more, my proc was manufactured September 15th, 2005.

  • New K8N diamond plus questions please help.

    Hi all well i am new to this msi site and am thinking of buying the new MSI K8N Diamond plus motherboard, the problem i have is that i have been a fan of ASUS and have had there last 3 SLI motherboards of which i have not been happy with.
    Well i am totaly into overclocking and have an Opteron 165, balistix ram, 600w Enermax PSU, 2x Gainward 6800gt's,
    what i am looking for is a motherboard that does what i says it will do, yes the asus a8n32 was a great motherboard but has a limitation on the voltage if useing the new E4-E6 stepping cores of which would only give a max voltage of 1.58v of which the asus spec said 1.76v.
    What i am asking you chaps is is this a great motherboard, can you play with all the coms settings without any limitation, or do you think that the DFI motherboard is better.
    If you can let me have some info on this motherboard that would be great, as i can not seam to get any reply from MSI about some information.
    what i am looking for is what is the max CPU voltage and is there any limitation on it for some chips.
    what is the max voltage for the ram
    what is the max voltage for the chipset.
    any help on this would be great.

    Quote from: Stick on 23-February-06, 17:46:08
    there is no mobo that alows 4V for the memory. i think the DFI goes up to 3.4V and you can use a DDR Booster to get to 3.8V. the only mobo that is capable to pass 3.3V is the DFI since you can have the choice to select from which rail the memory will be powered (the 3.3V or the 5V). you don't have that option in any other mobo.
    Hi thanks for the mail but i have just copied this from msi about this motherboard, see below.
    1.Adjust CPU FSB Frequency:
    You can adjust the desired "CPU FSB Frequency" by using "+,-" key. The default value of AMD Athlon™64 is 200MHz. The maximum value is 450MHz.
    2.AMD Overclocking Configuration (CPU Ratio):
    If the CPU is Athlon™64 FX series, the ratio range is from 4 to 25.
    If the CPU is Athlon™64 series, the ratio should be set according to its model number. For example, the ratio range of 3000+ is from 4 to 9, and the 3200+ is from 4 to 10.
    3.Adjust Extra CPU Voltage:
    This is for adjusting CPU voltage while overclocking. Following the CPU default value, the maximum is 1.8V. The interval is 0.05V.
    4.Adjust DDR Memory frequency:
    The Memclock is the major part which has four different frequencies to match many kinds overclocking memory modules. The memory frequency settings includes DRAM/FSB=1/2, 2/3, 5/6, 1/1.
    5.DDR Memory Voltage:
    This is for adjusting memory voltage while overclocking. K8N Diamond Plus has a special design.We use jump to distinguish two level arrangement of voltage. In this way it can get maximum 4.1V for overclocking modules. As you can see the below pictures, the left one is the standard mode when jump hat is located at the top postion. The default value is 2.5V, and the maximum is 3.2V. The interval is 0.05V. As the right one, it is overclocking mode when jump hat is located at the under postion. The default value is 3.2V, and the maximum is 4.1V. The interval is 0.05V.
    What i am asking is there any limitation on the cpu voltage like the asus a8n32 as this had a max voltage of 1.58v due to it having a limit put on it by recomendation of amd.

  • K8N Diamond Plus + Vista upgrade issues + Memory

    When I go to install Vista Business , I receive an error before the install saying that my motherboard is Non-ACPI compliant.  I went into the bios and and made sure that all ACPI settings were turned on.  Also I installed 2 more gigs about a month ago and only see 3 gigs on post instead of the 4 that is installed.  I tried to update my BIOS using the MSI utility but received a memory error saying it can detect the correct amount.  I ran MEMtest and it passed .Here are my system specs:
    K8n Diamond Plus - Bios ver 1.0
    AMD Ath 64 x2 4800 toledo
    4 gigs of Corsair XMS DDR433 3500LLPRO
    2 x EVGA 7950 GT KO Superclocked 512mb
    WD Raptor 74 ( OS)
    WD SE16 320 gb (storage)
    Plextor 18x
    PC Power and Cooling Turbo Cool 510 SLI
    XP SP2

    Quote from: iampiglet on 02-February-07, 23:18:28
    When I go to install Vista Business , I receive an error before the install saying that my motherboard is Non-ACPI compliant.  I went into the bios and and made sure that all ACPI settings were turned on.  Also I installed 2 more gigs about a month ago and only see 3 gigs on post instead of the 4 that is installed.  I tried to update my BIOS using the MSI utility but received a memory error saying it can detect the correct amount.  I ran MEMtest and it passed .Here are my system specs:
    K8n Diamond Plus - Bios ver 1.0
    AMD Ath 64 x2 4800 toledo
    4 gigs of Corsair XMS DDR433 3500LLPRO
    2 x EVGA 7950 GT KO Superclocked 512mb
    WD Raptor 74 ( OS)
    WD SE16 320 gb (storage)
    Plextor 18x
    PC Power and Cooling Turbo Cool 510 SLI
    XP SP2
    I have the same motherboard with 4GB Ram. I had to enable the memory hole in the memory configuration of the bios for it to see the full 4GB. However, Windows 32-bit will not show the full 4GB ram since 32-bit addressing limit is 4GB and all your peripherals have to be included like vid card memory, etc. So don't beat your head against your desk once you get your bios seeing the 4GB and Windows 32-bit doesn't. My Vista gives 2.8GB ram of my 4GB, some get more, but I know I have two video cards with 768MB ram also. I'm using 1.2 bios.
    Incidently, I ordered an OEM Vista X64, it will be interesting to see if it sees all my memory since 64-bit can go up to enormous addressing ranges.
    Good Luck

  • MSI-K8N Diamond Plus - which memory?

    Hello,
    I will soon buy the K8N Diamond PLus motherboard. For that motherboard, I have selected the following memory: Corsair 512 Mo DDR-SDRAM PC3200 CMX Cas-2. But I can not find if this is ok for this type of motherboard. Does someone knows something about that?  ???
    Thx in advance! 

    Marlysa,
    I would suggest that you stay away from the corsair xms ram as i figured the sme thing when I built my system, that it,s Corsair and its the #1 selected ram and usualy the most compatible, But this is not the case with this motherboard it's very picky about hardware pretty much the same as DFI board's!!!
    Of course the CORSAIR WEBSITE will tell you this they want youre money!!!!!! Their certainly not going to reccomend OCZ MEMMORY that's for sure!!!!!
    Please reconsider youre decision as I myself have traveled down that road you about to take. Personaly I love Corsair ram and i certainly wont bash it, but  get the OCZ5002048ELGEGXT-K  it cost me $213.00 wth tax for 2 gigs instead of $160.00 with tax for the corasir xms 2- 512 sticks Believe me you will be thankful that you took my suggestion!!!!! with the new 1.20 BIOS at optimized default's it posts and configures itself automatically where as befor you would usealy have to configure it manually in bios to get it to post at 500mhz believe me this OCZ MEMORY ROCKS!!!!
    Save youreself alot of this....      BUY IT!!!!!!
                                                                                                 Brother Esau
    P.S just check around the forum their's alot of peop[le that have issues with the  DIAMOND PUS AND CORSAIR RAM.
                                                                                                       

  • K8N Diamond Plus, Line-In & AVerMedia Studio .103

    Hello,
    I got K8N Diamond Plus and AVerMedia Studio .103 audio out connected to my onboard sound device's (Audigy) Line-in. I don't know how to describe the situation but I'll try. The problem is that the captured audio is some kind of wavey like an old "record", the sound is cry-like especially when there's a music in the background.
    It is really annoying to have such a problem with this kind of expensive product. I'm sure it's not TV Card related because I use it for 5 years now with the same OS, Application, Drivers and cable. The day I upgraded my system I met this trouble. I've searched for driver updates, chipset updates related to this issue but couldn't find any. I tried every possible option/configuration with the sound card and no hope.
    I think it is because that the line-in is also used as an output with the 4 speaker configuration. Every passed day with this issue I add spoilt videos to my archive and this upsets me.
    Thanks for your help and concerns
    Yours respectfully
    M. Erke Tiryakioglu

    Quote from: syar2003 on 30-April-06, 17:46:53
    The line-in only has dual fuction in 8 speaker sw config (7+1) .
    With 5.1 and lower the numbered jack #1 is only having line-in config.
    Make sure you have correct Multi-Channel Audio Function mode properly selected in the software
    utility for your speaker connections/configurations.
    And use the Creative web update to have the laterst drivers and software .
    First of all thanks to all of you guys...
    Secondly, I was just trying to point out that may be the dual-function support (doesn't matter when) is doing this...
    And yes I am using windows XP as it says in my signature, but thats not an issue since i used this card (AverMedia) with XP pro for four years with no problem.... I can't say anything about the dual-core tho...
    BTW I tried to manually update the audigy from creative's web site, but couldn't be sure if I had to download the Audigy drivers or should I use MSI's web site for my sound device, since it's on board? Or is there a version in the Creative web site to, or even the audigy drivers itself may be? Do you have any suggestions? MSI doesn't have an update tho I know that..

  • K8N Diamond Plus and MBM5

    Anybody got MotherBoard Monitor 5 or Speedfan, working with the K8N Diamond Plus 
    I need to configure my LCD on my keyboard and can take values of temperatuer only from these two programs.
    The programs to create custom screens on the LCD is the LCD studio.
    If anybody got it to work please enlight me 

    Neither of those progs have support for the Diamond Plus...as stated, Everest Ultimate does though.
    Quote from: kingdomwinds on 30-April-06, 04:15:40
    BTW this is offtopic but can you get read write queue bypass to 16x?  I set mine to 16x but it shows up as 8x in windows. Same with the idle cycle limit.  I set it to 256 but i shows up as 16.  Really retarded mobo IMO
    I have both set at 16x and 256 respectively without problem

  • K8N Diamond Plus - ram issue

    Ok, I just got this board and some bran new Corsair ram to go with it. The problem is the ram will not do 1/1 clocking. It will only do 5/6 and reads it as 333 ram, which it is not. I tried to change it in the bios manually but it will not go above 5/6 clocking. So at 222FSB I am only running the ram at 185MHz. Here is my system specs.
    MSI K8N Diamond Plus - Athlon XP64 3200+
    Corsair TwinX 2048-3500LLPRO (2x 1gig PC3500)
    OCZ 600w PSU
    Does anyone have any ideas how I might be able to accomplish running the ram at 1/1 speed? Is there some bios update that I'm not aware of (the live update says there isn't any)?
    Thank you!

    Quote from: K6dude on 20-January-06, 13:23:13
    Hi,
    I think you might need to use banks 1 and 2 to get the 128bit contoller working, otherwise you will be stuck with the 64 bit single channel mode.
    Not sure what's up with the 4 banks full though for Latin.
    A possible fix could be to reduce the HT multi?
    I assume that you all know that Corsair default ram Voltage is 2.75v, and MSI is known for only giving 2.5 to 2.6v. Try manually setting 2.75 or even 2.8v and see if that helps.
    K6dude
    Thank you for the help... I just found the entry in the User's Guide on page 2-7. I followed the instructions of using banks 1 and 2, my computer would not boot. I used banks 3 and 4, like what was also shown on the table, my computer would not boot at all. As far as the voltage goes, I have it set at 3.0 volts so there's plenty of power.
    On every configuration I have tried I am watching the LED lights on the ram and they are getting power on the bootup just fine, I hear my hard drives spin up, all fans spin up just fine, but monitors don't turn on. For some reason, it's just not reading the ram right. The only way it boots up is with the sticks in 1 and 3 slot. Any ideas?

  • Can't get k8n diamond plus working with 4x1Gb

    I managed to get the DDR memory frequency running at 333MHz using only 2x1Gb in the Green slots of the motherboard (as listed in page 2-7 of the K8N Diamond Plus Manual).
    However, when I add the other 2x1Gb modules to the Purple slots, the system does not even come up.
    I've then went back to 2x1Gb in the Green slots so that I can get the system to fire up, gone into the BIOS and adjusted the settings according to the configurations below and restarted.
    I've then shut-down and re-inserted the other 2x1Gb into the Purple slots so that 4Gb is present, then rebooted but the system still does not come up.
    Adjust CPU FSB Frequency: 200.0
    Current DDR Memory Frequency (this is Read Only) DDR 333
    Adjust DDR Memory Frequency: set to Manual
    Memory Clock: Tried all of the following for DRAM/FSB 1/2,2/3,5/6,1/1,5/4
    Does anyone know of any person who has got a K8N Diamond Plus working with 4x1Gb ?

    Tried removing one of the video cards and disabling the sound card (as suggested by http://www.asktheramguy.com/v3/showthread.php?t=65436), but the system still didn't fire up with 4Gb RAM.
    Hans,
    I managed to find the D-Bracket and here's the sequence that the LEDs cycle through:
    LED1
    LED2
    LED3
    LED4
    DESCRIPTION
    1
    red
    red
    red
    red
    System Power ON
    2
    red
    red
    red
    green
    Initializing Video Interface
    3
    red
    red
    green
    green
    Initializing Hard Drive Controller
    4
    red
    red
    red
    red
    System Power ON
    5
    red
    red
    red
    green
    Initializing Video Interface
    6
    red
    red
    green
    green
    Initializing Hard Drive Controller
    7
    green
    red
    red
    green
    BIOS Sign On
    8
    green
    green
    red
    green
    Assign Resources to all ISA
    Row 7 of the table above indicates "BIOS Sign On" and this should start showing information about logo, processor brand name etc, but this does not occur.
    The cycle (phases 1 to 8) then repeats incessantly.

  • K8N Diamond Plus Questions?

    I have a some questions about my K8N Diamond Plus. I recently replaced a K8N Neo Nforce 3 board and some other parts as well. The machine has been working very well with this new board so far but there are a few issues I’d like to get resolved.
    1. Does anyone know if there is a new BIOS out for this board? I have that problem where at start up it shows that I have a new card in one of my PCI slots even though I do not….it does’nt seem to hurt the machine at all it’s just annoying….i’m wondering if they released a BIOS that corrected that?
    2. On my old board I overclocked the machine with no problems at all. Now I’m no expert at over clocking but I do like to dable a little and last time I did I had no problems. This board seems like it will over clock well so I went and got better RAM….i just received some Corsair XMS 2GB DDR 400. I went into the Cell Menu to look at the options for the RAM and saw much, much more then I had on my old Neo board.
    I know I need to adjust the CAS Latency, RAS# to CAS# delay, Min RAS# Active Time and the Row Precharge Time for this RAM….people have been saying that their motherboards do not detect the correct timings for this RAM (2.5-3-3-6) so you need to adjust it Manually…along with uping the Voltage to 2.7.
    My question is…..do I need to worry about any other options under the MCT Timing Mode besides the 4 I mentioned above? Also…I could’nt seem to adjust the Voltage for the RAM? Every time I high lighted it and hit enter nothing would pop up for me to adjust (and it is white not gray like some things are)….is there something I’m missing that I need to shut off in order to access it???
    Thanks ahead of time for anyone that can provide me with some answers.

    I have not been able to find any information on those other settings.  It is my current project and I am not having a great amount of success.
    The defaults for them do not seam to have any adverse effect on stability the system in my signature is my MS-7220 system at FSB=225, CPU multiplier of 12, Memory/FSB =1/1 system is quite stabile if I am not playing with the BIOS settings.
    I am working on, some major some minor these current problems.  Watch out for number three it will flat blow your BIOS Parameters.  It happens on my system every time, but I not been able to find any body that is will to trash the BIOS to verify it, so I can be sure it is a real BIOS problem or my system.  “MCP Timing Mode” use to do the same thing, that where the V1.16 BIOS version came form MSI Tech Support sent my that one to fix the problem and this one looks to be the same.
    1.   First boot screen the line “DRAM = 400 MHz, Dual-Channel.” It reads 400 MHz do matter what that actual memory transfer rate actually is.
    2.   Cell Menu parameter “Adjust DDR Voltage (V)”, has two problems (1) the BIOS default voltage is outside the manufacture specification for normal operating range.  BOIS default is 2.65V and manufacture states the Memory Module should be operated between 2.7V minimum and 2.9V maximum.  (2) The voltage cannot be set to the manufactures minimum voltage of 2.7V.  Starting with the BIOS default voltage of 2.65V and you press “+” key once and voltage jumps to 2.75V, press the “-“ key and the voltage jumps back to BIOS default of 2.65V.
    3.   Cell Menu>Memory Configuration>User Config Mode parameter, when set to “Manual” and all of the “User Config Mode” sub-parameters left at BIOS default.  The system will not boot.  When I say will not boot I mean Blank Screen, no beeps, no drive activity, just case and motherboard fans come on.
    4.   Menu “CPU Frequency Configuration”, parameter Adjust CPU VID.   CPU correct voltage tracks the set by about 0.03V high.  Example: if Adjust CPU VID to 1.375V and actual vCore voltage is about 1.405 Volts.  The offset is maintained through the voltage adjustment range of the current CPU.
    Roger
    When submitting a problem, include a complete list of your system components; include part numbers, all Power Supply Voltages, and their output ratings.  It is almost impossible to estimate what your problem is without knowing something about it. 

  • MSI K8N Diamond Plus - Guide to my first week

    OK, not a newb here, but been around the block quite a bit.   MSI K8N Diamond Plus is my 5th A64 mobo (ECS K8M800, my daily undestroyed computer, K8T800, my 12 year olds gamer, Asus A8V Deluxe, first 939 system, Abit AN8 SLI, first SLI gamer, and now the MSI Diamond Plus).   Had the KDP (K8N Diamond Plus) for more than a week now, and here's what I've learned.
    This is state of the art again, and we have no one to blame but ourselves for the pain this causes us when we upgrade like lunatics 
    And as usual, the drivers and BIOS are al Dente (i.e. not cooked enought yet, a little raw)
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    Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
    Which brings us to the BIOS.  IMHO, the worst one I've seen on a high end board.  ZERO explanation for half the settings (this is not strange in and of itself, BIOS is still a black art, but in a tweakers board, we should have some basic explanation  )
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    first of all, i do think that all the settings in the BIOS have an explanation in the manual, even if it's a basic one. if that explanation doesn't tell you everything in detail, is because if you do need a detailed explanation of the settings, you probably shouldn't be messing around with those settings.
    Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
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    wanna tell me how did you get 1.95V on that mobo?
    Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
    I've been able to get the CPU up to 2.4Ghz, with a .5 volt bump to the CPU and 2.9 volts into the Geil memory.  So far, so stable, no smoke coming out yet 
    a 0.5V  bump? again, you must be joking. maybe 0.05V.

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