IDoc to CRM - change pointers?

Hi,
I'm currently involved in scenarios where I need to post various CRMXIF_* IDocs to CRM.
What I'm wondering is, if I need to maintain change pointers in the IDocs - that is at header and item level maintain the fields OBJECT_TASK or TASK with proper values being either U (UPDATE), I (INSERT), C (CURRENT STATE), D (DELETE)?
Now I've never had to do this before in any other IDoc scenario I've developed, so it would surprise me a little if its necessary - but need to be sure. It's my impression that SAP handles this internally and automatically, so that there is no need to worry about it!?
Hope someone can clarify it for me:-)
Best Regards and thanks in advance,
Daniel

Hi,
Change pointer concept is in R3 side not in Xi side.That is to be created and activsted in R3 Side and send the Idoc by triggering the change pointer.
So see the below link to ge more details.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/ab/27bde462848440ba70cf8eb348c86f/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/12/83e03c19758e71e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
Creating a change pointer and subsequently triggering an IDOC
Regards
Chilla

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Change pointers are the mechanism through which you can send data to another SAP system or external system if there is a change happening to specific fields of master data.
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http://www.angeli.biz/www5/cookbooks/workflow/workflow_30/docu.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/12/83e03c19758e71e10000000a114084/content.htm
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