Idoc to Idoc using BPM

Dear Friends,
I am sending the Idoc from one ECC server to other ECC server using XI, it has been completed ,but reciever side after one hour only it has to be updated.
so in this case how it's possible with BPM or any other method is available.
Please let me know the process.
Regards,
Shalini shah.

I am sending the Idoc from one ECC server to other ECC server using XI, it has been completed ,but reciever side after one hour only it has to be updated.
so in this case how it's possible with BPM or any other method is available.
With BPM you can have a wait step inbetween the receive and send ........not a good option to make the BPM wait for 1 hour....
Without BPM...refer the replies of Samiullah in these two threads:
Re: Can I slow down Processing of each mesg in PI?
Re: Delay in MM possible ?
Regards,
Abhishek.

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Plz give inputs/blogs link to do this scenario.
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Edited by: ruban R on Apr 1, 2008 12:29 AM
Edited by: ruban R on Apr 1, 2008 12:39 AM

Hi,
These Steps may help you
Design objects:
Data type & Message Type
1) Import the IDOC and Later you import the Idoc, doble click on it a export it to your driver, next import it as External Definition for reason becouse if not, you wont be able to create a MI type synch with IDOC and genericResponse structure
2) Create data type for your Response Type of IDOC
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Messgae Interface:
1) Outbound synchronous:
    output message will be ur idoc external definition file
    input message will be ur message type that u have created.
2) Abstract Outbound Synchronous:
    use the same as in Outbound Synchronous
3) Inbound Synchronous:
    input message will be ur request message of RFC/WebService
    output message will be ur response message of RFC/Webservice
4)Abstract Inbound Sunchronous:
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    output message will be ur response message of RFC/Webservice
Mapping
Request Message Mapping:
b/w ur idoc external definiton and request message of RFC/WS
response Message Mapping:
b/w ur Response message of RFC/WS and ur message type
Interface Mapping
Import MI(abstract) of IDOC
Import MI of WS
select the mapping for request and response Tab
BPM
1) In container window define a variable named IDoc_ABS with category abstract interface and
    type (select the MI of IDOC alone)
   define a variable named GenericRespnse_abs with category abstract interface and type (select
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3) Define a Send Step--> mode synchronous
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My Requirement is IDoc(Async)HTTP(sync)-IDoc(Async) using BPM
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could you please provide me details steps in IR and ID.
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HI,
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http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/XI/FILETORFCTOFILEwithBPM
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I think for IDOC to Webservice you are going for Async to Sync bridge with BPM and have the similar steps as mentioned in below link.
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When i am generating multiple IDOC for the same message type, i am getting multiple payload for the same as a result i used to get multiple files generated in application server.
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Ex: I want to post 10 IDOC for a single IDOC type,, Now using BPM in XI i want to collect all the 10 IDOCs with multiple payload into one single message and then want to process this in XI to generate the file.
It would be glad if anyone refer me a good step by step blog for the same.
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I have also got a blog explaining the exact thing. But in the blog the ID part was missing which is present in the link you have provided.
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I have a scenario in which SAP R/3 sends large volume say 30,000 DEBMAS Idocs to XI. XI then sends data to 3 legacy systems using jdbc adapter.
I created a BPM Process which waits for 4 hrs to collect all the idocs. This is what my BPM does:
1. Wait for 4 hrs Collect the idocs
2. For every idoc do a IDOC->JDBC Message transformation.
3. Append to a Big List
4. Loop at the Big list from step 4 and in the loop for
5. Start counter from 0 and increment. Append to a Small List.
6. if counter reaches 100 then send a Batch JDBC Message in send step.
7. Reset counter after every send.
8. Process remaining list i.e if there was an odd count of say 5300 idoc then the remaining 53 idocs will be sent in anther block.
After sending 5000 idocs to above BPM following problems are there:
1. I cannot read the workflow log as system does not respond.
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Hi Ashish,
Please read SAPs Checklist for proper usage of BPMs: http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/43/d92e428819da2ce10000000a1550b0/content.htm
One point i'm wondering about is why do you send the IDocs out of R/3 one by one and don't use packaging there? From a performance stand point this is much better than a bpm.
The SAP Checklist states the following:
<i>"No Replacement for Mass Interfaces
Check whether it would not be better to execute particular processing steps, for example, collecting messages, on the sender or receiver system.
If you only want to collect the messages from one business system to forward them together to a second business system, you should do so by using a mass interface and not an integration process.
If you want to split a message up into lots of individual messages, also use a mass interface instead of an integration process. A mass interface requires only a fraction of the back-end system and Integration-Server resources that an integration process would require to carry out the same task. "</i>
Also you might want to have a look at the IDoc packaging capabilities within XI (available since SP14 i believe): http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/7a/00143f011f4b2ee10000000a114084/content.htm
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Wait steps are also costly steps, so reducing the time in your wait step could potentially lead to better performance. Or if possible you could omitt the wait step and just create a process that waits for 100 messages and then processes them.
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Source
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Current Interface Flow - File (xml) to Idoc (single Idoc type)
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I want to use BPM in this case
1) RFC call in message mapping to get the inbound delivery number (for POs only) (Should be before the message enters BPM)
2) Separating the messages based on IDoc type
3) Interface / Message mapping for each IDoc type
4)Send the message to ECC
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Edited by: Varun Reddy on Feb 4, 2011 4:47 PM

Hi Varun,
Follow this thread... You have answer for this.
This link gives design ideas for your requirement
/people/sudharshan.aravamudan/blog/2005/12/01/illustration-of-multi-mapping-and-message-split-using-bpm-in-sap-exchange-infrastructure
Follow Bhavesh discussion. It might be helpful too
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could you provide some blogs which is useful for Idoc (as a Receiver) message splitting (1:N scenario) using BPM.
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Hi Michal,
Thanks for ur reply.
You said " if you have one message and want to have multiple IDOCs
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I agree to your point.
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Please check ..
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/people/jin.shin/blog/2006/02/07/multi-mapping-without-bpm--yes-it146s-possible
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All the settings are in place.
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message Interfaces.
2.Create 2 Abs interfaces based on IDOC
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4.Create 1 Inb for target.
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<i>5.Two dummy mappings for outbound idocs to abstract idocs.
7.One Dummy mapping for Abstract Intf(output of BPM) to target Filestructure(inbound).</i>
These dummy mappings are needed. As both the Abstract Message Interfaces and the Idoc / Inbound interface will use the same message type, no dummy mapping needed. In the interface determination for these, no interface mapping needs to be mnetioned.
ID.
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I am working on a sceanrio, where Idocs are coming from sap and we need to generate a single Flat file out of them.
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Option 1 : /people/stefan.grube/blog/2006/09/18/collecting-idocs-without-using-bpm
here you collect them as a file and file is picked up and sent to the target
Option 2 :
in WE20 in ERP set idoc package to 50
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Option 3 : collect using BPM.
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