In and Out points not showing in source monitor

I've noticed this in the past couple of days: setting in and out points in the source monitor, the indicators don't show in the time ruler. In other words, even though I set the in and out points, it looks like nothing has been selected.
If I put the clip into the timeline, the in and out points I chose are respected, but they just don't seem to register in the source monitor, so I can't have confidence in what I have selected.
If I open another clip in the source monitor, then go back to the one I was working on, magically the in and out points are there again. Strange...
At the same time, if I apply audio gain to a clip in the source monitor, it sometimes doesn't "take". It shows that gain has been added, but there is no change in the sound volume when I play it back in the source monitor. Again, if I put the clip in the timeline, the volume is as it should be and the waveform reflects this.
So, is there some underlying bug affecting how clips are dealt with in the source monitor?
I'm on the latest version of Premiere CC 7.2.1 on Windows 8

Thanks for these suggestions. I'll try and answer each one:
Is the Source Monitor zoomed out to show the whole clip? If not, please zoom out to see if the In/Out points are getting painted in the wrong place initially.
Yes, it is zoomed out.
Do the clips have non-zero start timecode? If so, please try with a clip with zero-based timecode. (If you don't have one handy, you can create one fairly easily by exporting a sequence with start TC of 0;00)
The problem is intermittent and in this project all the clips are DSLR .mov files. The problem occurs with some of these and not others.
Have you done anything like setting a custom start timecode or interpreting footage to change the frame rate?
I haven't set a custom timecode. It's true that there is a mix of 24p and 25p clips in the project, but surely this only presents issues in the timeline rather than the source monitor? In any case, I haven't gone to interpret footage on these clips.
Is this happening with all types of project items, including simple clips on disc, or only with certain items like merged clips, multicam sequences, subclips...?
In this project, the only type of clip I'm using is simple clips. There are nested sequences; I'm not sure, but possibly the problem has also presented itself when these are brought into the source monitor - but not exclusively with those.
I hope this helps. This is the first project I have worked on since the latest upgrade and I didn't come across this problem before. As I say, it is intermittent, and it's hardly crippling - just annoying when it happens!
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