In logman, should All Instances include _Total?

Hello
If this question has already been asked and answered elsewhere, my apologies.
I want to collect IIS worker process perfmon data using logman. When I add counters in PerfMon, choosing All Instances gives all instances (each w3wp process for each application pool, plus _Total). When I try to get the same in "logman
create counter" using
-c "\w3svc_w3wp(*)\*"
All I get is _Total, none of the individual instances.
Through getting the wrong end of the stick about parent/instance#index (from
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb490956.aspx), I happened into trying
-c "\w3svc_w3wp(**)\*"
which gave the individual instances but not _Total. I've tried a combination of using (**) and (_Total), but that gave the individual instances only.
I'm sure I'm doing something simple wrong and would appreciate someone telling me what it is.
Thank you
dg
dg

Hello again
I've continued trying to collect program counters for all instances, not only _Total, and not only every individual instance bar _Total.
I thought that it was just Logman that didn't agree with my expectations, but I'm having the same problem with Data Collector Sets made in PerfMon. When running live in PerfMon, I'm collecting for all the instances, which translates as "*" when adding
the counters, but specifically names the instances when I look in
System Monitor Log for that Data Collector Set
Logman query for that Data Collector Set.
(Presumably this means that the application pool worker processes would not be picked up if the application pool recycles, thus changing the ID number at the start of the instance name. But that does not apply to processor instances.)
But when I look at the binary log file in PerfMon, I'm only seeing counters for instance "_Total".
So, it seems that the recorded counters are the same whether I use logman and specify instance "*", or whether I use PerfMon and create a new Data Collector Set from the current live counters. I only get results for _Total, not for individual instances.
I would appreciate guidance to documentation that explains that this is the expected behaviour, or an explanation of how to collect the counters for the individual instances other than in real time.
Please help. Thanks
dg

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