InDesign compatibility question

I'm going to be working with a designer on a joint project. He's out of town. I'm going to be using ID CS4 on a Windows machine, and he will be using ID CS3 on a Mac. We'll use OpenType fonts. We need to swap documents, work on them, and send them back to each other. In theory, this should work, right? Are there any problems with this setup? If so, please be specific. THANKS!

Forget the Mac/Windows things...especially with opentype, it's irrelevant.
The real problem is that the other designer is using CS3. While a save
back one version is possible via INX text will reflow and any new CS4
features will be lost.
In short, this is horrible way to work on a collaborative project. You
need to convince the other person to upgrade.
Bob

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Re: (forte-users) C++ version compatibility question. Fortev30L2 on D

Dirk:
I ran into a similar problem. I added an other flag to my fcompile script and
it seems to be working fine, your mileage may vary. The flag was
-cflags "-oldcxx only"
Dwayne Kryger
"Haben, Dirk" <[email protected]> on 08/25/99 02:09:16 AM
To: "'Soapbox Forte Users'" <[email protected]>
cc: (bcc: Dwayne Kryger/SEH)
Subject: (forte-users) C++ version compatibility question. Forte v30L2 on
Digital Unix 4 d and C++ version ???
G'day Folxs
Just installed Forte as a Simple Server on a Digital UNIX (v4.0d) box (being
a VMSbot it was much easier than I thought). We want to use it to interface
with an existing web client. The Forte part is to provide us a scalable
access path to Oracle DBs on the VMS machine; already running Forte.
I'm having trouble finding media that contains C++ v5.4.-006 for the Unix
box. Does anyone know of/has used higher versions of C++ without too much
drama? How about v5.7 or even v6.1? We will be using extensive C++
interfacing to existing web pages!
NB: The current web system client is compiled using EGCS 2.91.66.
TIA,
/[:-)irK
Dirk Haben, Perth WA
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Dirk:
I ran into a similar problem. I added an other flag to my fcompile script and
it seems to be working fine, your mileage may vary. The flag was
-cflags "-oldcxx only"
Dwayne Kryger
"Haben, Dirk" <[email protected]> on 08/25/99 02:09:16 AM
To: "'Soapbox Forte Users'" <[email protected]>
cc: (bcc: Dwayne Kryger/SEH)
Subject: (forte-users) C++ version compatibility question. Forte v30L2 on
Digital Unix 4 d and C++ version ???
G'day Folxs
Just installed Forte as a Simple Server on a Digital UNIX (v4.0d) box (being
a VMSbot it was much easier than I thought). We want to use it to interface
with an existing web client. The Forte part is to provide us a scalable
access path to Oracle DBs on the VMS machine; already running Forte.
I'm having trouble finding media that contains C++ v5.4.-006 for the Unix
box. Does anyone know of/has used higher versions of C++ without too much
drama? How about v5.7 or even v6.1? We will be using extensive C++
interfacing to existing web pages!
NB: The current web system client is compiled using EGCS 2.91.66.
TIA,
/[:-)irK
Dirk Haben, Perth WA
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Incopy/indesign version compatibility question

Hi all,
I feel like this should be something easy to find in Adobe's information, but I couldn't find it. Maybe I'm just slow.
OK, we are a small (free) weekly newspaper. The person who puts the paper together uses InDesign CS5. We do not currently have InCopy. We would like to get InCopy for one of our editors, to work with in the documents made by the person with InDesign CS5.
My question of course being...since we can apparently only buy InCopy CS6 now (maybe 5.5 if we really hurry) will it be able to work with the older version of InDesign, or would our InDesign need to be updated to CS6 as well?
Being a small free paper, we cannot afford to do that...thus my question. While I understand I could have called an Adobe rep, I don't have time to deal with a sales person at this point, just trying to gather information for my boss.
Thanks!

Hurry and buy CS5.5 now. You can work that with one exception. Remote packaging won’t work.
Dropbox is very good alternative to that. But again. HURRY! Come Monday CS5.5 won’t be available and nothing will work.
You should be eligible for a free upgrade to CS6 as well.
Bob

InDesign CS6/CS5 compatibility question

I need to know if users in InDesign CS5 will be able to successfully work in an InDesign file I create and save back from CS6. I was told by someone at Adobe that these 2 versions were NOT compatible at all, even though I was told by another Adobe employee that you can save back 1 version with no issues. What is correct? And... if we ALL upgrade to CS6, will we be able to open up files we created in CS5 or earlier with no issues? The guy that said they were totally incompatible sent me this link:
http://www.adobe.com/products/indesign/buying-guide-version-comparison.html
So I need a definitive answer - can we, or can we not, exchange between CS5 and CS6??? Thank you.

An exact answer depends on the exact wording of your question.
"Are CS5 and CS6 files compatible with each other?" NO.
But a longer, and more accurate, answer is "They are, up to a certain point and with proper precautions."
1. You cannot open a 6 file in '5 or earlier. To be able to, save your file as IDML -- that *can* be opened by earlier versions, at least one or two. (Saving back to a CS3 compatible format, for example, takes more effort and a working CS4.)
2. When saving as IDML, the file ought to open exactly as it was with the original version. If there were any new features used in the file, they will be (silently!) ignored by older versions.
3. Due to code changes, there might be a change in text flow. Nothing you can do about it, text is always reformatted according to the internal rules of the version you open it with.
4. Older version files ought to open right away in a newer version. "Ought to", because the latger the difference in version, the larger chances *something* might fail. Apart from that, the text might also reflow, as per point 3.
So you see, the correct answer to "are they compatible. depends more on how much time you have to answer it.

InDesign 2 questions

I had heard at a seminar there were some downloads for InDesign 2 which would make our life easier at the newspaper where I work. Where could I find them on the Adobe Web site?
Also, are there compatibility issues between InDesign 2 and 3? I was thinking of downloading a version of 3 to see what new things have come out, but if there are compatibility issues I don't want to be designing pages and stuff with it.
Thanks!
Larry See
Relatively new user

Peter,
given the current economic situation of most newspapers, it is reasonable to not replace 100s of working computers mainly used as typewriters, upgrade all software and push the staff thru retraining every other year, just to follow the latest fashion in software advances. Heavy metal people are used to think in 10 year or longer investment cycles.
Larry,
as Peter said it would help to know whether you really mean InDesign 2 (blue butterfly on blue background) or InDesign CS2 (pink butterfly on white background). The startup screen will also give you the numbers.
Next, please tell us your OS (Mac or Windows), and whether you're working with an editorial system and eventually which. Indicators are login windows, extra menus that are not in the regular manual and feel more like "business", newspaper specific rather than "creative".
There should also be some person at the help desk / user support or even management that knows these nifty details. Before you get into downloads and such, you should anyway talk to these people whether it is ok at all to install additional software.
Independent from the version, there are two kinds of additional software:
Plugins are modules created by programmers, the same way as internal InDesign functionality. Assuming you really have InDesign 2, back then there have been only few plugin developers with few products and even if you find them these old versions are most likely out of support. For example I had only two plugins for ID2 for image related tasks, and the earliest version that I have built in the past two years was InDesign 3 (CS). Another disadvantage of plugins is that they usually have a price tag - no free downloads off the Adobe site.
Scripts are written in simplified programming languages, often the authors are regular/advanced users. They also may come as source code so you could adjust them to your use. Note that InDesign 2 only supported AppleScript (Mac) or VisualBasic (Windows) while a large share of scripting is nowadays done in JavaScript which was introduced with InDesign 3.
You could definitely download example scripts in these languages from newer versions, strip out all the added functionality not supported by your version, adjust some more required changes and eventually end up with something useful. This of course depends on whether you can spend the effort (time) and go thru the learning curve to become a scripter. There is a dedicated forum for that next door. As you say you're relatively new, it helps to first know the program from the user side. Note there are books even covering such old versions - see eBay or Amazon.
Back to the initial questions. If you have an editorial system there might be a user group around with similarily old installations, where other people already have built a collection of scripts. Try to get in touch with them.
Regarding compatibility from newer to older versions, you're mostly out of luck here because documents prepared in newer versions at best require conversion before you can use them with your old system, dropping all newer features and likely causing reflow and other trouble in the existing workflow. If you have isolated, special tasks (tables? fancier graphics effects?) you could of course produce a PDF and place that like an image.
Best luck,
Dirk

Monitor Compatibility Question

I plan on purchasing a Mac Pro with the Radeon X1900 XT card in the near future. I have been shopping around for a good monitor, and the Dell UltraSharp 2407WFP (found here: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku= 320-4335) caught my eye. However, at the bottom of the tech specs, it lists only PC under "Compatibility." I know of other people who have used Dell monitors for their Macs, and this monitor does have DVI, so I don't see why it would not be compatible with the Mac Pro. Does anyone know definitively whether or not this monitor would work?

Hello,
You should be just fine. The majority of monitors are listed as compatible with PC's only. The simple reason is that the manufacturers don't care to test them with Macs and have all their resources devoted to supporting what they know.
If they mentioned that it would work with a Mac, then they would be stuck trying to answer your questions on the phone if you needed help. Since they don't use Macs, and don't maintain a staff of Mac trained people, it is easier to just omit official support. That way they can just tell you that they don't support Macs and hang-up the phone.
I've been using PC monitors with my Macs since before Apple even supported PC monitors at all (you used to have to buy monitors with Apple specific cables). I would just use an adapter to convert the PC connector to connect to the Mac video port.
In all my years, I've never found a PC monitor that would not work with my Mac. And, that still holds true today. I've used several low-end monitors with my current machines, and all work fine.
I've even got a bargain basement DVI monitor connected right-now, and it works perfectly.
Basically, if you want official support and a guarantee, then buy a monitor that specifically lists Mac compatibility.
But, if you are willing to accept that their phone support will avoid helping you, then go with any brand you like.
Understand that Dell is primarily interested in selling and supporting Dell computers. They have no interest in fielding calls from Mac users because they are not going to be familiar with OS X. Naturally, they will list PC compatibility because they know Windows very well.
But, you should also understand that the only difference between an Intel-based Mac and an Windows PC, is that the Intel-based Mac can also run OS X. Otherwise, they are just different brands of computers that use pretty much the same hardware.
I hope this helps.
Let us know if you have other questions.
P.S., if you'd like, go ahead and click the "Helpful" or "Solved" buttons on any of the posts / replies above if you feel they were helpful or adequately answered your question.

Platform compatibility question(s) from new user!

I'm confused.
I picked up Java a few days ago, with the intention of converting a long-standing JavaScript project that I have to run as an applet. I downloaded and installed the Java2 SDK (1.4) and associated runtime environment, and a simple but good IDE (JCreator 2).... and I'm happily developing applets to my heart's content. Cool language, by the way.
HOWEVER, none of my colleagues (on IE5/5.5 on Win2K/Millenium) can view my resulting efforts. Their browsers complain that they can't find the class. Works on mine, on-line, just not theirs. I've sadly made the assumption that it's because I've installed the 1.4 JRE and they haven't.
I REALLY want to use 1.4 to develop if I can. My JavaScript project that I'm converting is heavily dependant upon regular expression operations, and it would be a pity not to have them available - but platform compatibility is a must; this is a commercial project.
I'm missing something here, and I need to ask some really fundemental questions.
1. I was assuming that most browsers over 4.0 would support "Java2". Just what IS their level of support, by default. I hate new plug-ins, and the Java ones arent trivial!
2. I had thought that any flavour of Java2 (1.2/3/4) would work on the same virtual machine release, and that new features in 1.4 would simply compile to existing bytecode sequences. Am I wrong?
3. If I have to develop for maximum compatibility with earlier browsers, can I do this with 1.4 and some compiler switch, or do I have to download older SDKs?
4. If the worst comes to the worst, is there a class out there that handles regular expression "style" operations that will work on older releases of the language.
Sorry that there's a fair bit there to answer, but since I can't find this info ANYWHERE on the web, I guess I won't be the only newbie facing such issues.
Peter McKean.

just a few points to add to the other answer :
HOWEVER, none of my colleagues (on IE5/5.5 on
Win2K/Millenium) can view my resulting efforts. Their
browsers complain that they can't find the class.
Works on mine, on-line, just not theirs. I've sadly
made the assumption that it's because I've installed
the 1.4 JRE and they haven't.
Yeah the Java support in IE is whack. The m$ JVM never got past java 1.1.4 compatability for various reasons. So unless you want users to install the java 2 pluggins, you have to code applets with the java 1.1 api. You can still do this with a java 2 sdk - you just have to watch the parts of the api you use.
>>
2. I had thought that any flavour of Java2 (1.2/3/4)
would work on the same virtual machine release, and
that new features in 1.4 would simply compile to
existing bytecode sequences. Am I wrong?Yeah you are wrong ;) . When do do:
import java.<package>.<class>
you are telling the compiler where to find the classes you are about to re-use in your code. You are not including them in your final compiled class files. So when the program runs, it looks for the classes in the classpath. If you use classes that don't exist in an older jvm, the program won't run in that jvm. (Same as if a C or C++ program is dynamically linked to dlls (in Win32) or shared objects on unix - they need to be on the system that the program is executed on.)
hope this helps...

InDesign printing question - help really needed!

Maybe an easy question maybe not!
Usually here at work our printing is out-sourced, but for a project I'm currently working on I need to print a few bits on the work printer [for the client]. So, I've got a black page [4 colour black] with large red text - when I send to print, obviously the black prints first; leaving white gaps for the text; red prints next but due to slight movement [I guess] I always seem to get what appears to be a tiny white outlines around sections of the text [where the red hasn't printed exactly in the gaps left when applying the black].
Just wondering if there is any way around this, to minimise the issue, in InDesign. Or is this due to the printer used?
Cheers in advance

I'm reading the post to look something like this (0|100|100|0 red on a field of 65|50|50|100 black):
http://www.zenodesign.com/scripts/redonK.png
If I hide the black channel it looks like this:
http://www.zenodesign.com/scripts/cmy.png
If I simulate the black plate off register, it looks like this:
http://www.zenodesign.com/scripts/offreg.png
In this case you couldn't get white because there's no white on any of the plates.

InDesign workflow question for longer document (book)

I'm new to Indesign and have read through the help topics and searched around but I can't seem to find an exact answer... I may be phrasing my question wrong.
I have a complete book in basic text (txt). What is the desired (or best in your experience) way to start work. In my mind I want to import the text as a whole, populate all pages, then I want to come back and format chapters and add images.
Everything I try doesn't support my idea (I am new to this software and I may just be approaching this incorrectly.) I also come from a different background and a different tool set so any advise would help.

To elaborate on Simon's answer, this is my workflow for straight-on books:
- Make a basic set of Master pages. You will need at least a single set with page numbering and, optionally, headings.
- Load all text. You will get lots and lots of pages, because it's still unformatted, but that's okay.
- I usually cut off front matter and put each item on a page of its own, so tiddling with it won't cause reflow of the entire document. You will need at least a title page and a reverse; "proper" books have a minor title page, a (c) page, a proper title page, and a blank. (Grab any one from your bookshelf that you like and copy its layout for these.) My first "true" flowing page is the first page of chapter 1. Remember to insert 2 pages (or perhaps more -- an even number) for a table of contents.
- Go through the main text from first to last page, applying basic formatting, paragraphs, subtitles, etc. -- the plain text works. Make and use paragraph styles for each unique format -- do not (or at least as possible!) apply local formatting. Use character styles for italics and bold in plain text.
- Go through the main text again, applying formatting to each new chapter. Insert page breaks (Odd Page Breaks for right-hand starting chapters) where appropriate. If you use Odd Page Breaks, insert them before
i every
new chapter (or use the "Break On Odd Page" Keep Option) -- i.e., not just when you seem to need one. It will change if you reformat or add picchers.
- Go through your text
i again,
this time adding all pictures, tables, etc. You can do the previous steps in any order you like, but this one must be done from front to back. If you have right hand chapters and the one before it has no text, make that one completely blank (i.e., remove header & page numbering).
- Tidy up the front matter and generate the contents.
- Remove the extra blanks at the end. These were the overspill from the plain text import.
- Sit back 'cause you're done!
As you see, your own ideas weren't bad at all.

Two Page/Bleed Spread? InDesign Newbie question

Hello,
I am hoping you can lead me in the right direction, I have a quick (probably basic) question that I can't figure out! I am new to InDesign and am trying to figure out the best way possible to have one image go across the span of two pages, with a .5in border around it. I already have the border and everything all set, but I am having issues getting my image to "stretch" properly and stay in proportion so there is no distortion. I know how to do fit to frame, but the problem is that the frame that I am creating spans both pages and therefore it does not keep proportions correct. If I do fit to frame proportionally it will just put the image on one page instead of two.
Also, I am curious what the best way is to do this so that I can account for gutter space and do not loose part of my image in the fold of the book. Can you help? Thanks so much in advance!!
Phil Spiegel

Use fill frame proportionally in the fitting options.
If it's a photo, make sure you have a enough image date. Check the
effective resolution in the info panel.
Bob

Indesign Compatability

i previously contacted Adobe regarding the compatability of CS4 with CS3 and CS2 with respect to INDESIGN (Case #0201265893) and was told the following by Adobe:
the only issue will be is in InDesign where
files created in the latest version needs to be save as InDesign
Interchange for the older versions to open it.
we are currently unable to open InDesign Interchange Files created in CS4 with CS2? please Adobe advise how CS2 can open these files as indicated in the previous response.
thanks
cheers
mark

Interchange is only meant to allow the previous version to open it. So CS3 can open CS4 INX files, but CS2 can't. You'll need to export INX from CS3 to get the file to open in CS2.
There is a trick posted on
indesignsecrets.com that I haven't tried tat might help you.
>please Adobe advise how CS2 can open these files as indicated in the previous response.
Look at the name of the forum. It's Who to Who?

OIM Java Compatibility Question

Hi
We have OIM 9.1.0.2 BP07 deployed in Weblogic 10.3.0 in test env. Our java version is JDK 1.6.0_10. All our adapters are compiled in this version. We are using this version of java since 1 year.
Now we are moving to production, and we are not able to get exact java version which we used in test env in internet. My question is if I install java which is certified by weblogic 10.3(i.e 1.6.0_05) then will I face any issues in OIM? is it mandatory to use exact version of java from one env to another?
Thanks

Does not make any difference with sub versions. The version compatibility comes into picture at a higher level like JDK 1.5 or JDK 1.6.
Consider the connector development team, they develop connectors on JDK 1.6 (could be any sub version) and when a customer uses that OOTB connector, they can use any of those sub-versions within JDK 1.6.
Also the fact that if its your custom adapters then you should be aware that what all java functions you are using and I assume it would be the basic ones, so the version difference should not bring in any issues. If its OOTB connector then see the certification matrix as well.

10Gb-10Gb cross-device compatibility questions (PHY-connectors)...

Hi, all, in general, I'm a little surprised at all the PHYsical layer standards running 10Gb Ethernet. This seems to have hindered adoption rate substantially. I have been recently getting questions like can I connect this server chassis to this switch device. or can I connect future-proof the switch deployment now so that it will handle 10Gb firewalls when we buy those. And we have some older 6509e chassis with SUP-720, which don't seem to be able to support SFP+ linecards easily. this is pretty confusing, so just wondering if someone has found a document covering all the PHY-layer interoperability gotcha's.
I found this link, which shows the different 10Gb cards/modules for the switches:
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/interfaces_modules/transceiver_modules/compatibility/matrix/OL_6974.html
And this link, which explains the different L2 connector types
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10-gigabit_Ethernet
Questions:
1. What is required for 6509e with VS-SUP720-10G to support SFP+ 10Gb connectors? looks like I need a WS-X6708-10G-3C with a special convertor: CVR-X2-SFP10G? will this WS-X6708-10G-3C run with VS-SUP720-10G?
2. In general, can I always adapt a XenPak/X2 connector to a SFP+ connector somehow with a special dual-end cable?
3. Are there any connector types that will not be compatible with each other? Such as Xenpack wont connect to X2. I could read the matrix, but wondering if anyone ran across any that stick out for them?
4. If I have a cable such as this SFP-H10GB-CU5M= (SFP+ twinax), will that work to connect up a typical server such as HP proliant with an SFP+ NIC, in almost all cases? one reason I ask is that I see the server guys bringing in their SFP+ Direct Copper cables with premade SFP+ ends, and wondering if those will be fine in most cases connecting up to cisco switch side. Or vice versa, if I use the pre-made cisco cable, will it connect to a server NIC? historically, different vendors didn't play nice with regard to these SFP standards. Does this relegate me to pretty much buying cisco SFP+ connectors in some version of fiber, and connect them to the HP-branded SFP+ fiber connectors?
5. what are the future adoption plans for 10GBASE-T (8P8C). It seems like cisco makes a connector (X2-10GB-T), which looks promising. Is anyone using those? Does anyone think that will become the predominate standard in time, like it has for 1GB connections?

X2-10GB-T is end of life soon.
There is a SFP+ version like

Compatibility questions re: OS X Server and new ATA serial HD

The good news: We just got a 500 GB ATA serial HD with some end of year money just as we were running out of space on our 250 GB drive.
The bad news: We have an Xserve G5 running OS X Server 10.3.7 and the hard drive says we need to be running OS X Server 10.4.7 or later.
I checked the Apple Store to see if they had any ATA drives compatible with our version of the OS X software but the only 500 GB serial ATA I found was no longer available. Looking at the 750 GB ATA I can't find any specs as to software compatibility.
Suggestions? I really don't want to spend $1000 to upgrade to OS X 10.4 right now.
Thanks in advance for the input.
Xserve G5, OS X Server 10.3.7 Mac OS X (10.3.7)

Hi PrintTech-
I think the hardware will be fine. You may want to search this forum as I seem to remember this question coming up before and it turned out that all was well.
Assuming that this is an Apple-branded drive in an Apple sled hardware-wise you should be fine.
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3G - 4S Compatibility Questions

I've had my iPhone 3G for almost 3 years and now want to upgrade to the new 4S. I have a couple of questions concerning compatibility between my current phone and the 4S:
Is the charger/docking connector compatible? I use this not only for syncing and charging, but also to connect to my iHome speaker device. I don't want to have to replace the latter as well as all my cables (including the charging cable for my car).
Is the new Bluetooth 4.0 compatible with my current Bluetooth 2? I pair not only with headsets, but also with my car.
Thanks.

No, my statement is correct. Read the first 4 words if the sentence, The APPLE cable is still compatible. Older 3rd party docks may not be.
Although the 1st gen iPhone and iPod touch had FireWire charging capability in the dock connector for compatibility with older cables and docks, the supplied cable was USB and the same as current. Only the 1st gen iPods (circa 2001) were Firewire only.

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