Installing NI-RIO with Additional Installers in Applicaion Builder

Is it possible to install NI-RIO device drivers in a stand-alone
installer created from the application builder in Labview 8.2? I can't
seem to find NI-RIO as an option in the Additional Installers page when
building an installer. My target systems is a PC running Windows XP
SP2 with a PCI-7833R.
What are the steps to installing a built Labview 8.2 application that
uses a PCI-7833R with the application builder? Do I have to run the
NI-RIO installer separately from my application installer? Can I
install NI-RIO from the command line with the option of a silent
install like NI-DAQ (see this link)?

I installed NI-RIO v2.1 with the /q option from a command prompt like this:
setup.exe /q /AcceptLicenses yes
It took a while but it worked. NI-RIO v2.1 spans 2 CDs. The silent install never asked for CD 2 of 2.
My build application that accesses the PCI-7833R card works fine installing NI-RIO with the /q option.
Heres a list of NI software that was installed:
NI CompactRIO 2.1.0
NI LabVIEW Run-Time Engine 7.1.1
NI LabWindows/CVI 8.0.1 Run-Time Engine
NI Measurement & Automation Explorer 4.1
NI PXI Platform Services for Windows 2.1.0
NI-RIO FCF 2.2.0
NI-Serial 3.1
NI-VISA 4.0
NI-VISA Runtime 4.0
NI-VISA Server 4.0
The following can be included as additional installers with the Labview 8.2 application builder:
NI LabVIEW Run-Time Engine 7.1.1
NI LabWindows/CVI 8.0.1 Run-Time Engine
NI Measurement & Automation Explorer 4.1
NI-Serial 3.1
NI-VISA Runtime 4.0
NI-VISA Server 4.0
By including the above list of additional installers, can I create an
installer (and application) that uses the PCI-7833R card not having a
separately install NI-RIO first? I haven't tried yet but I will and
report back my findings.
The following NI software would be missing (i.e. not available as an additional installer from the application builder):
NI CompactRIO 2.1.0 (not using any cRIO)
NI PXI Platform Services for Windows 2.1.0 (not using any PXI stuff)
NI-RIO FCF 2.2.0 (this sounds like something I will need NI-RIO FPGA Communications Framework)
NI-VISA 4.0 (this might be something thats needed too)
Message Edited by dwisti on 10-24-2006 02:55 PM

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Hi Joe,
I tried to reproduce your issues, and encountered mixed results. Please verify with what I've provided below that we are testing under the same conditions
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