Internal Order Commitment/Actuals
Hi all,
I am writing regarding Internal Order budget.
As we know Internal order has 4 "dimensions" for Budget:
Total Budget
Actual
Commitment
Available Quantity.
In the beginning Total Budget = Available Quantity, when PR is created the amount from Available quantity is moved to Commitment, but I am interested in the next step, when PO is created the amount still remains in the Commitment section or not? For example if PR is created on 10000 USD and then PO is created only on 5000 USD what does happen there? Does Commitment has total 1000 USD or only 5000 USD?
And finally when after making GR in PO, as I know GR amount is subtracted from Commitment and goes to Actual section, is that right?
Thanks you all for support in advance.
Hi,
Yes you are right. You may create an Internal Order in your Development/IDES client and check for more clarity and understanding.
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I need to understand how the KOB1 Report - Actual Cost Line Item works.
As per my understanding when ever there is cost posted with assignment to Internal order this report should reflect the amount.
We have a PO with account assignment to Internal order and Asset.
When Goods Receipts is posted the with posting key 70, the report is reflecting the amount.
When Invoice Receipt is posted KOB1 report is not reflecting this amount.
There is one Invoice receipt posted with entry
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And also is GR considered as cost posting or IR considered.
This issue has been pending from 3 months.
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PLM table for Internal Order budget, Actual Cost and Actual Hrs
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In cProjects version 4.0, we have integration with existing ECC 6.0. We create Internal Order manually and assign it to cProjects.
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Its not there, actual hours can be found in DPR_Task but it needs to be transferred by running a report.
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There is one issue regarding commitment management. I am explaing the entire scenario here for your better understanding.
1. PR ( Only one item 10) has been created in the year 2007.
2. PO has been created against the PR in the year 2007. Accordingly GR and IR was happened.
3. if you check the PR, commitment line items it showing for 2007 item 10 and for 2009 again showing item 20.
My doubt is here, How the Item 20 is appearing in the PR after reducing the commitment becuase PO has been created against the particular PR.
2) how to delete the Item 20 from the PR, because if you check the PR, only shows item 10 only .
For information we have already deleted the Item 10 from the PR even then commitment is showing in the internal order.
Appreciate you support.
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Yours
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Travel Commitment to Internal Order
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After saving a Purchase Order with Account Assignment to an Internal Order, commitment will update the COOI table. If Internal Order has budget exceeded, it will display an Availability Control Error Message.
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The cost element is NOT exempted.
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Hi All,
The order has been settled and when we try to close this in KO02 we are getting the following error.
" Still there is a purchase order commitment"
can any one help me how purchase order linked to internal order and how to resolve this issue.
regards
prasadHi,
Do further analysis with the below mentioned reports to understand in detail.
Path: Accounting -> CO> Internal orders-> Information systems -> Reports for Internal orders ->Plan/Actual comparisons -> Additional key figures>
Accounting -> CO> Internal orders---> Information systems -
> Reports for Internal orders ---> Line items -->
Regards,
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Including down payment made to vendor in the internal order
Hi all
My requirement is like this.
We use IM and IO(Capex orders) for procuring and capitalising assets. We are able to assign all the costs of procuring assets (both APC and incidental expenses to the internal order). We use purchase orders and assign the internal order while raising purchase order.
Sometimes we do make Down payments(advances) without raising purchase orders. My question is how to include this down payment made in the internal order. We cannot assign any internal order while making the down payment. But, can we include this down payment made to vendor in the internal order(commitment) while making down payment or after that.
FYI:I came to know that there is some functionality in Controlling (Project systems) where we can assign the down payment made to the internal order after making payment.But, i do not know how to do that.
Pls somebody reply me.
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VST-IT.
Pls somebody answer my query.The functionality is available in Controlling. I dont know about PS.
I need to know how to do it.
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vishnu
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Purchase Order with Internal Order
Dear all,
Are there any reports in SAP that will show the value of the Internal order with respect to Purchase Orders?
Thank you.HI,
These are the tcodes which gives the standard functionality of internal orders
FCOM_RULE_OCL Rule for Internal Order Line Items
FCOM_RULE_OCV Rule for Internal Order Variances
FCOM_RULE_OL Rule for Internal Order Line Items
FCOM_RULE_OV Rule for Internal Order Variances
GJRG_5JCB Internal orders: overview actuals
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JKB1X Create Internal Order
JKB2 Change internal order
JKB2X Change Internal Order
JKB3 Display internal order
JKB3X Display Internal Order
JKB4 Display internal order
KAMN Menu for Internal Orders
KKBC_ORD_INT Analyze Internal Order
KO01 Create Internal Order
KO03 Display Internal Order
KO14 Copy Planing for Internal Orders
KO1ECP Internal Orders: Easy Cost Planning
KO9E Plan Settlement: Internal Order
KO9G Plan Settlement: Internal Orders
KOA1 Send Internal Order
KOK2 Collective Proc. Internal Orders
KOK3 Collective Disp. Internal Orders
KOK4 Aut. Collect. Proc. Internal Orders
KOK5 Master Data List Internal Orders
KOK6 Collect. Printing of Internal Orders
KOSRLIST_OR Internal Orders: Coll. Displ. SettRu
KOT2_OPA Order types for internal orders
KOT2_OPA_STSMA Order Types for Internal Orders
KOT3_OPA Order types for internal orders
KSR1_ORC Strategies for Internal Orders
KSR2_ORC Strategy Sequences: Internal Orders
In case if it does not contain the information then you have to go in for a development of the report.
Thanks & Regards,
Kiran -
New internal order type--need help
Dear all:
i have a case need help.
now i want to create a new internal order type ,and assign a new number range and a default settlement rule to it .
the settlement rule is that the actual costs of this internal order type need to be
sent to a cost element .
what should i do step by step?
thanks!
best regards!Hi,
2. Order Master Data
2.1 Define Order types (KOT2_OPA)
IMG Controlling  Internal Orders Order Master Data  Define Order Types
An Internal order is created under an Order type. An order type is used for storing various control parameters and various defaults while creating an internal order. It is used for classifying various types of internal orders according to usage for e.g. Real orders for trade fairs, real orders for Capital investment measure, Statistical orders for motor vehicle expenses.
The order type is client-specific, which means that every order type can be used in all controlling areas. A number range is assigned to the internal order type.
Click on New Entries
Take a drop in the field Order category and select 01
Enter
Update the following
Give Order Type :- Z810
Description :- Traders First Real order type
Object Class :- OCOST overhead
Reference Order :- Collective order without automatic goods movement
Residence time 1 :- 12 months
Residence time 2 :- 1 month
Check Commit Management and Check Integrated Planning
Activate CO Partner Updating -You activate this so that allocations between orders and other CO objects (cost centers, projects, etc.), the partner information is retained and whether for each order a totals record should be written.
Save
Click on Field Selection
Here you can hide the various fields or make it as required entry or only display or available for input. Thus while creating internal order only those fields are displayed and available for input.
Click Save
2.2 Maintain Number Ranges for Orders (KONK)
IMG Controlling  Internal Orders  Order Master Data Maintain Number Ranges for Orders
Number Range needs to be assigned to the internal order type. Number range can be internal or external. In Internal numbering system automatically assigns a number from the given number range. In external numbering the user has to manually assign the number from the given number range.
We will configure internal number range for our internal order type Trade Fair
Click on Group Maintain (From the menu bar)
Click on Group  Insert (From the menu bar)
Update the following
From Number: - 910000000000
To Number: - 919999999999
Click in plus icon at the left bottom of the screen
Click Save
You will find internal order type Z810 in not assigned
You need to assign the order type to the group we created above. Proceed as follows:-
Position the cursor on: - Z810 Trade Fair real order type
Click on Arrow Z810 Trade Fair real order type note it turns blue
Select Check mark Z810 A ltd India fair real order
Click Element Group
The internal order type Z910 moves under the group which can be seen as follows:-
Z810: A Ltd India Trade fair real order / Z810 Trader Fair real order type.
Click Save
Select: - Z810: A Ltd India Trade fair real order / Z810 Trader Fair real order type.
Click on Pencil icon.
Click Back arrow.
2.3 Define Model Orders
IMG Controlling Internal Orders Order Master Data Screen Layout
Define Model Orders
Model orders are not orders in the commercial sense, but serve merely as references for creating "normal" orders. Model orders contain default values for the orders in an order type. The Model order is assigned as the reference order in the order type.
When you create a new order, all the fields active in the relevant order type are copied from the model order to the new order.
Example
You want to settle all your marketing orders to the same sales cost center. Stipulate the cost center as the default value in the model order for marketing orders.
When you create a new marketing order, the system defaults this cost center. If you want to settle the order to a different cost center, you can overwrite the default cost center in the orders.
We will create a model order with some defaults and assign it to the Trade fair internal order type
Click Create CO Model Order
Press F4 and select ($$) 03 model order
Click on the master data and update the following
Order: - $$$ Z81000001
Description text: - A Limited Trade affair
Click Save
Assign this model order to the order type Z810
Update the reference order with the model order number $$$Z81000001 in the reference order field
Click on save.
3 Planning
3.1 Maintain User-Defined Planner Profiles
IMGControllingInternal OrdersPlanningManual PlanningMaintain User-Defined Planner Profiles
Check the User defined planner profile ZOCM91 created by us contains the layouts for internal orders.
Double click on General controlling
Planning area: Cost element/activity inputs.
Cost Center: Activities/Prices
CCtr Statistical key figures
Orders: Cost Element/Activity inputs
Ord: Statistical key figures
Select :- Orders: Cost element/activity inputs
Double Click on Layouts for control
3.2 Maintain Planner Profile for Overall Planning (OKOS)
IMG  ControllingInternal OrdersPlanningManual PlanningMaintain Planner Profile for Overall Planning
Here you can specify the time frame for which values are to be planned for Internal order. Further you can also default the number of decimal places and the display factor. Default cost element group while planning.
Double click on Define planning profile for overall planning
Click on New Entries
Select 05 Planned Total
Profile: 810000 General Plan Profile A Ltd
Click Save
Select back arrow
Double click maintain planning profile for order type
Give: - Z810 Trader Fairs Real order type
Give Plan profile: - 910000
Click Save
4 Settlement
4.1 Maintain Allocation structure
IMG ControllingInternal OrdersActual PostingsSettlement Maintain Allocation Structures
An Allocation structure comprises one or several settlement assignments. An assignment shows which costs (origin: cost element groups) are to be settled to which receiver type (e.g. cost center, order and so on)
You have 2 options:- You can settle to a settlement cost element or settle by cost element i.e. settle using the original cost element.
We will use settle by cost element.
Click on New Entries
Allocation stru :- Z8
A Ltd : Internal order settlement structure
Click Save
Select Z8 Internal order settlement structure
Double click on Assignments
Click on New Entries
Assignment :- 10 Settlement Primary cost Element
Click Save
Select 10 Settlement Primary cost Element
Double Click on Source
Give From Cost Element To Cost Element
Save
Click back arrow
Note:-The color has become green
Select: Settlement primary cost element
Double click on Settlement cost
Click New Entries
Select CTR Cost Center
By Cost Element Check
Save
4.2 Maintain Settlement Profile
IMG Controlling Internal Orders Actual Postings SettlementMaintain Settlement Profile
Here we define a range of control parameters for settlement.
Double Click on Maintain Settlement Profiles
Click on New Entries
Select Settlement not allowed
Assign the allocation structure Z9 created earlier in the settlement profile.
Click on Save.
Select Back Arrow
Double Click on Enter Settlement Profile in order types
Give Settlement Profile Z9100
Click on Save.
4.3 Maintain Number Ranges for Settlement Documents
IMG Controlling Internal Orders Actual Postings SettlementMaintain Number Ranges for Settlement Documents
You should define separate number range intervals for settlement documents for each controlling area.
Click Group  Maintain
Click Group Insert
Update the following:-
Give From Number 1000000000- To Number 1999999999
Click on + at the bottom left side.
Click 8100
Click on Arrow icon.
Select Settlement documents for A limited Check box
Click Element group button
Click SAVE
Assign Points
Zia -
Internal order - any program to reconstruct actual and commitment figures?
If internal order is activated later, is there any program that can update the IO actuals/commitments based on PR / PO / FI documents which are assigned to the respective IO?
I think for commitments, the program is RKANBU01, correct? How about actuals from goods/invoice receipts or FI docs?
Thanksfor commitment values the report is RKANBU01 (see note 152571 for reference)
For document transfer from FI to CO you can use transaction OKBA
You can also check notes 45122 and 98520 explaining how to
post FI doc.subsequently w/o acct assgnmnt to CO
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Actual and Commitments values are not Appearing in Internal order report
Hi
We have done budget in KO22 for Internal Order and active the availability controle after that we made PO with the same IO and with account assignment category 'A' and GR also happened.
So when we run the report (S_ALR_87013019 - List: Budget/Actual/Commitments ), system is not showing Actual and Commitments values...
Please help me in this regard...
Thanks,
SaisriHi,
Here we are giving internal order in PO with account assignment category 'A'
In case of Account assignment category 'K' it is showing the Actual values in Report.
Why is it showing Actal /commitment values incase of 'K' ?
Why it is not showing when we select the 'A' category ?
Please provide me answer about my queries...plz
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Saisri -
Service PO Commitment with refrence to stasticall Internal Order is not get
PO is created with Account assigned to Internal Order stastically and Cost center as real cost object. Wih PO creation we check commitment in system
According to standard SAP, at creation of PO, system creates commitment & while doing GR/IR, system should reduce PO commitment and increase actual by that amount. Service PO is created for amount 239200 USD with Account Assigned Category K, Item category D, Account assigned to Cost Center & Statistical Orders (9 orders by approximate 11% ) So, initially there is commitment of 26000 USD on each service order. However from March 2009 onward business has done GR and IR for this PO approximate 50000 USD but nor commitment have reduced neither any commitment line item were posted in system.
As a result of it, business actual budget is fully consumed by (Commitment + Actual) and while doing IR budget deficient errors is received.
Here main problem is, non reduction of Service PO commitment while doing GR and IR.
Tried below approch so far.
CoAr / Order type Comitment acitive, Costcenter updates commitment and GL is valid on delivery date. Service PO order unit is JOB and commitment reduction is based on value match with PO details.
In order to test really probelm is with Commitment updation or reporting. I checked COOI and COSP with reference to object no.
but there is only one posting in line item of original PO amount and at total level there are two posting one is origiona one and seocind is with zero amount. but in both total line item for one of the peiod quantity is incomplete even after clicking Final Invoice.
Even after final Invoice ticked thre is not commitment line item gets posted in system. Even I run RKANBU01 program.
This is quite strange, if some one can give me other suggestion to proceed further.
With Regards
Nitin P.This issue got resolved with OSS. There is technical glitch when you upgrade to EH4.0 and use valuated GR with multiple account assignment. Below is list of notes required to be apply in sequence. (1492317,
1491430, 1505733 & 1484993)
With Regards
Nitin P. -
What is the difference between the two key figures, "Budget in current fiscal year" and "Budget throughout the reporting time frame", as the query doesn't have the input variable period?
What is the difference between the two key figures, "Budget in current fiscal year" and "Budget throughout the reporting time frame", as the query doesn't have the input variable period?
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Tables related to PM order for actual and commitment items
Hello Experts,
I need help in finding the tables related to PM order for actual and commitment items.
I need develop a report which can show the actual and commitment items for each order and Operation/component under that each ITEM wise and its related documents.
For the component we can find the table RESB.
But i am getting the difficult to find the data related to Operation (services)
In my client we can able to see PM orders with activity types and SKF
How can build the logic to find the values for each operation item and its commitments (PO, PR) and actual that is FI documents
Please guide me the TABLES and fields or else give me the hints, how can find the tables
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NarendraHi,
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Regards,
Eli -
Error in Flow of Actual Values to Internal Orders
Dear All,
Please help me in this regard.
_*Scenario*_
My Client using Internal Orders for Procurement of Machinaries. So, while creating PO we are taking the account assignment category as F. (Internal Order)
*Step 1*
Against the PO, GR (MIGO) has been done for which in the accounting document IO & PO reference is also available.
_*Step 2*_
MIRO completed, and in the vendor invoice against the GR/IR Internal Order & PO reference is available.
_*Check Points*_
I've checked the Database Table EKKN, where in I am able to see the Internal Order liked with PO.
_*Issue Facing*_
Now, the user need to do the settlement of this IO to the respective GL account. But, when i checked the Basic Report for Internal Order Actual Line Items, like
KOB1, KSB5, S_ALR_87012993, S_ALR_87013011
System is giving error as No Actaul Line Items Exists.
Thanks.
TalluriHi
Thanks for your reply.
I've checked the Controlling Document for Accounting Document of MIRO thru Relationship Browser, where i am finding the CO entry with Cost center only for Manual Tax entry.
As per the standard entry is concern it should be:
Internal Order & Cost Center Has to be Debited with the Net Amount of MIRO Document.
Where in, as the user given the tax amount manual with seperate account, only that is reflecting in the CO document.
What step can be done now, to make it proper.
Please advice me.
Thanks
Edited by: TALLURI on Oct 17, 2008 4:07 PM
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