Invoice value including subsequent debit
Hi Friends,
I have posted an invoice for a material. Later i have posted subsequent debit for the extra value.
Now i would like to see, how much i have spent for that material including subsequent debit amount. Where can i see that value, kindly help me.
Regards,
Prasath
in purch order history tab - item detail of PO
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Regarding Subsequent debit,credit and cdedit memos
Hello Gurus,
Could any body explain the above said subject and when this scenario will be used pls give some examples.
regards
rkHi,
A subsequent debit/credit arises if a transaction has already been settled, and a further invoice or credit memo is received afterwards.
A subsequent debit/credit changes the total invoice value of a purchase order item; the total invoice quantity remains unchanged. Therefore, only a value-based update of the purchasing transaction takes place. There is no quantity-based
update.
1. Subsequent Debit :-You must enter an invoice as a subsequent debit if a purchase order item has already been invoiced and further costs are now incurred. (Example: A vendor has inadvertently invoiced you at too low a price and then sends a
second invoice for the difference.)
2. Subsequent Credit :- You must enter a credit memo as a subsequent credit if a purchase order item was invoiced at too high a price and you have now received a credit memo. (Example: A vendor has inadvertently invoiced you at too high a price and then sends a credit memo for the difference.)
If you enter a subsequent debit/credit, the system suggests the entire invoiced quantity, but no value. The maximum quantity that you can subsequently debit or credit is the quantity that has already been invoiced. You can only enter a subsequent debit/credit for a purchase order item if an invoice has already been posted for this item.
A subsequent debit/credit cannot refer to a particular invoice.
Subsequent debits and credits are listed separately in the PO history.
3. Credit Memo :- You usually receive a credit memo from a vendor if you were overcharged. As is the case for invoices, credit memos refer to purchase orders or goods receipts.
You post a credit memo if too large an amount has been invoiced. When you post the credit memo, the total invoiced quantity in the PO history is reduced by the credit memo quantity. The maximum quantity you can make a credit for is the quantity that has already been invoiced.
In the same way as the corresponding goods receipt is expected or posted for the invoice, in the case of a credit memo, the system assumes that the credit memo belongs to a return delivery or reversal of the goods receipt. This means that the credit memo is settled using the GR/IR clearing account.
Regards,
Pardeep Malik -
Miro debit/credit note and subsequent debit/credit
Dear all,
May I know under what circumstances we use debit/credit note and
under what circumstances we use subsequent debit/credit
Need advice.
ThanksHi,
A subsequent debit/credit arises if a transaction has already been settled, and a further invoice or credit memo is received afterwards.
A subsequent debit/credit changes the total invoice value of a purchase order item; the total invoice quantity remains unchanged. Therefore, only a value-based update of the purchasing transaction takes place. There is no quantity-based
update.
1. Subsequent Debit :-You must enter an invoice as a subsequent debit if a purchase order item has already been invoiced and further costs are now incurred. (Example: A vendor has inadvertently invoiced you at too low a price and then sends a
second invoice for the difference.)
2. Subsequent Credit :- You must enter a credit memo as a subsequent credit if a purchase order item was invoiced at too high a price and you have now received a credit memo. (Example: A vendor has inadvertently invoiced you at too high a price and then sends a credit memo for the difference.)
If you enter a subsequent debit/credit, the system suggests the entire invoiced quantity, but no value. The maximum quantity that you can subsequently debit or credit is the quantity that has already been invoiced. You can only enter a subsequent debit/credit for a purchase order item if an invoice has already been posted for this item.
A subsequent debit/credit cannot refer to a particular invoice.
Subsequent debits and credits are listed separately in the PO history.
3. Credit Memo :- You usually receive a credit memo from a vendor if you were overcharged. As is the case for invoices, credit memos refer to purchase orders or goods receipts.
You post a credit memo if too large an amount has been invoiced. When you post the credit memo, the total invoiced quantity in the PO history is reduced by the credit memo quantity. The maximum quantity you can make a credit for is the quantity that has already been invoiced.
In the same way as the corresponding goods receipt is expected or posted for the invoice, in the case of a credit memo, the system assumes that the credit memo belongs to a return delivery or reversal of the goods receipt. This means that the credit memo is settled using the GR/IR clearing account.
Regards,
Pardeep Malik -
Hi,
I ma faicing an issue with subsequnet debit posting.
I have been charged by a vendor for transporting material to my plant from one of other plants of our company code.
we have posted invoiuce for that.
but there was delay while unloading the truck so vendor is charging for idle time truck has while unloading.
i want to post that as subsequnt debit.
buy system is throuwing error as " tax coede 2A doesnot appear in any G/L line items."
Strange thing is that we can post the invocie with same data.
Where could be error while posting subsequent debit.?
thanksA subsequent debit /credit arises if a transaction has already been settled and a further invoice or credit memo is received afterwards
You must enter an invoice as a subsequent debit if a PO item has already been invoiced and further costs are incurred. -
Subsequent debit and Credit in MRIO
Hi,
I know the Invocie and credit memo in MIRO when we are posting the invocie we have to use the invocie option and in case we return the material we can use the credit memo, I wan tto know when we have to use subsequent debit / credit what its exact use.
regards,
zafarHi,
Subsequent debit and Credit are executed after invoice verification. When an additional invoice or credit memo is received for a transaction that has already been invoiced, this is known as a subsequent debit/credit. First let me clarify the terms Subsequent debit /Credit and credit memo.
1. Subsequent Debit :-You must enter an invoice as a subsequent debit if a purchase order item has already been invoiced and further costs are now incurred. (Example: A vendor has inadvertently invoiced you at too low a price and then sends a
second invoice for the difference.)
2. Subsequent Credit :- You must enter a credit memo as a subsequent credit if a purchase order item was invoiced at too high a price and you have now received a credit memo. (Example: A vendor has inadvertently invoiced you at too high a price and then sends a credit memo for the difference. Please refer below link for better clarity.
A subsequent debit/credit cannot refer to a particular invoice. Subsequent debits and credits are listed separately in the PO history.
3. Credit Memo :- You usually receive a credit memo from a vendor if you were overcharged. As is the case for invoices, credit memos refer to purchase orders or goods receipts. Hope this will resolve your issue. Thanking you -
Subsequent debit for a vendor before invoice??? (URGENT!!!!!)
hi all,
i want to post subsequent debit for a vendor before invoice. but the system is giving a message "The quantity to be debited/credited cannot be any greater than the quantity invoiced so far."
can anybody tell me how to post subsequent debit before posting the invoice (i haven't got the vendor invoice yet but i must pay the freight cost).Hi,
Subsequent debit : Rarely, you receive from your vendors invoices or credit memos that refer to transactions that have already been invoiced. Your company wants to use subsequent debits/credits to process these documents. A subsequent debit/credit changes the total invoice value only of a purchase order item but the total invoice quantity remains unchanged.
The processes are:
1) Subsequent credit or even subsequent debit is done when total VALUE" of invoice is changed.
2) Total invoice Quantity is remained same.
3) Only value based transaction takes place & not quantity base.
4) If credit memo is received from memo then subsequent credit is done in MIRO.
For example vendor has submitted invoice of 100 Qty for Rs 1000 & we have posted the invoice & subsequently he realized that he has invoice for higher price i.e. it should have been actually 900 Rs as against Rs 1000 .In this case he will send a credit memo of Rs 100 for which we will be doing subsequent credit.
5) This is done for PO items if an invoice is already posted
6) cannot refer to particular invoice
7) Listed separately in PO history
8) In PO total values is updated but not Quantity.
For ur case you can pay to Vendor(freight cost ) by selecting Planned Delivery Cost instead of Goods/Services items in MIRO T.Code
Regards,
Biju K -
Subsequent debit Vs FI invoice
Hi,
I have posted an MM invoice against vendor PO.
But now venddors sends me an invoice for some additional charges he incurred .
What is the impact if I post an FI invoice directly through FB60 for additional charges instead of Subsequnet Debit?
Which one should be prefered?Hi Harikrishna,
thanks for your reply.
We observe that there is no limit for amount whihc we can post with subsequent debit.
I mean if PO value is Rs 10000, PO is released then invoice posted for Rs. 10000.
But then user can post subsequent debit for any amount. Is there any way to restrict this subsequent debit amount whihc can be posted with reference to PO?
thanks
Manoj -
VPRS - cost not updating with Subsequent Debit
We have an issue with the VPRS price in VF03 not updating if a subsequent debit is processed after initial vendor invoice and customer billing has been processed. (for third party processing)
There is no problem if a vendor invoice and subsequent debit is processed before customer billing. There is also no problem if if a vendor invoice and subsequent debit is processed after customer billing. There is only an issue when the vendor invoice is received first, then customer billing then subsequent debit applied.
Can someone describe how the VPRS on the billing document is updated in SAP? Any information on how to fix this would be greatly appreciated.Hi,
In the order, the cost is generally taken from the valuation segment
of the material master. In the billing document, however, it may have
other sources. Depending on the business transaction, the costs can be taken from the goods issue of the billed delivery or, in the case of a
third-party order processing or individual purchase order, from the
respective purchase order, the goods receipt or the invoice verification in purchasing. As an example, only the goods issue will be mentioned here. However, the descriptions also apply to costs from purchase orders, goods receipts or invoice verifications. These costs are entered externally in pricing and included in the value of the VPRS condition. The amount is obtained by calculating back amount = value / quantity.
Thanks
Krishna. -
Subsequent debit - different behaviour for PO based IR and GR based IR
Hy Guys,
i am facing currently a problem with my understanding of system behaviour for GR Based Invoice Verification in combination with Subsequent Debit Postings...
Example 1 - System Behaviour in case of PO based Invoice Verification:
PO with 3000 PC Material XYZ / Price 10 EUR
Goods Receipt for all 3000 Pieces
Goods Issue for 2000 Pieces
Situation is now:
Valuated Material XYZ with Stock Quantity 1000 PC / MAP 10 / Stock Value = 10.000 EUR
Subsequent Debit Posting for 300 EUR / 3000 PC
Result is that Stock Account is debited with 100 EUR / Price Difference with 200 EUR
New Situation is:
Valuated Material XYZ with Stock Quantity 1000 PC / MAP 10,1 / Stock Value = 10.100 EUR
This makes sense to me!!!
Example 2 - System Behaviour in case of GR based Invoice Verification:
PO with 3000 PC Material XYZ / Price 10 EUR
Seperate Goods Receipt for 1000 PC - three times
Goods Issue for 2000 Pieces
Situation is now:
Valuated Material XYZ with Stock Quantity 1000 PC / MAP 10 / Stock Value = 10.000 EUR
Subsequent Debit Posting for 300 EUR / 3000 PC
Result is that Stock Account is debited with 300 EUR (But there are only 1000 PC currently on stock!!!!! - System thinks there are 3000 on stock....)
New Situation is:
Valuated Material XYZ with Stock Quantity 1000 PC / MAP 10,3 / Stock Value = 10.300 EUR
In that case i think system behaviour is wrong, because MAP increased to much.
Any comments? Is this customizable?
Thanks!
BR;
GregorHi Gregor,
Wellcome to SCN. Please, see SAP Note 308008 - FAQ: Posting logic: GR/IR clearing account, and related notes.
Regards
Eduardo -
Subsequent delivery and subsequent debit
Dear All,
material type: NLAG
account assignemnt (PO): cost center, non valuated GR
Scenario:
1. GR (MIGO) - material_document1, qty 100
2. IR (MIRO) - invoice1 for material_document1, qty 100
> vendor makes correction because qty is more or less than the original
3. GR (MIGO) - material document2 - qty 20 (sum qty for PO item is 120)
4. IR (MIRO) - subsequent_debit1 for 20 pcs
These connections / links should exist:
Material_document1 - invoice1
Material_docuemt2 - subsequent_debit1
My question
How can I solve this? Is it posible to book the subsequent debit with reference to material_docuement2?
If I create the subsequent invoice it is valid only for material_document1 EVEN IF I do material_document2 as SUBSEQUENT DELIVERY in MIGO (in this case the two material documents are connected). SAP expects an additional invoice for material_document2 (but it is linked to material_docuement1!).
In my opinion it cannot be solved since the debit/credit memo refers to the "original" material document (1) and invoice (1).
Thanks,
Csaba
My question was a little bit incoherent...
I wanted SAP to suggest the to-be-credited qty&value automatically in case of returns to vendor - but it's not possible in standard system as per my best knowledge .
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Mar 4, 2009 9:18 PM
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Mar 4, 2009 9:22 PMHi Bala krishnan,
when there is a price difference this entry would takes place. while reversing the same should be reversed, in your case the system is posting to another account.
please check the account key against the wrong line item ( this you can see with the help of changing layout), then goto OBYC and check the gl accounts assigned against that. To check either it is right or wrong compare with the standard/default company codes settings i.e 0001 co.cd.
Thanks & Regards,
Shashi Kanth. -
Subsequent debit tax calculating wrong
dear guru
while doing subsequent debit for the vendor the Excise duty is calculating wrong
my issue is like this
i have purchase 100 quty with value 10/kg total amount is 1000 for that
ED is calculated 140
Ecess calculated 3
S&H calculated 1
i have done goods receipt and posted invoice also
now i that part of the quantit i have returne
lets 50 kg i have retune for that MIRO,MIGO,JIS,J1iV i have done
next vendor will send the suplimentry invocie because the rate is increase for that 50 quantiy, for that i will do J1IH for the additional excise and i will do MIRO subsequent debit for the rate increse in miro the tax amount is calculating wrong, ie
lets for 50 quantity total amoun increased 100
ed should calculate 14 but it is calculating 28
for that i have to apply any note
pl tell me urgent
thanks
regards
jrpMy understanding about the Input Tax and Output Tax was wrong. In the issue reported
Input Tax Calculation should be:
Vendor A/C.............. Cr 30000-
Expense A/C............ Dr 29100
Input Tax A/C............ Dr 900 (@3% on 30000)---my understanding was wrong.
Input Tax 3% should be charged on Expense amount, in this case Rs 30000. But because in the editing option calculate tax on net amount option was not selected, hence SAP was giving the below entry, which is correct as well.
Vendor A/C.............. Cr 30000-
Expense A/C............ Dr 29126.21
Input Tax A/C............ Dr 873.79 (@3% on 29126.21) which is correct.
Hence, the Vendor amount should be Expense + Input Tax= 30000 * 3%=900 + 30000 (expense) = 30900.
Correct Entry should be:
Vendor A/C...............Cr 30900
Expense A/C............Dr 30000
Input Tax A/C............Dr 900
Resolved. Pankaj has given the correct answer. -
Hi,
I see a scenario where a blanket purchase order is created , but without the item category 'B'. The value is limited by the quantity entered in the PO and by releasing it. The invoices are posted against the PO, with the amounts in the invoices from the vendor. And Goods Receipt also posted for that amount.
Once a subsequent debit is posted for the credit note received. Is there a necessity to post a GR in this case(possible with a negative value?). And if so, what could be the movement type.
Thanks
AparnaHello
Thanks for ur Reply.
MIRO -- Subsequent Debit -
>Tax code - S3 ( 10.30 % Services Tax) -
>PO NO. -
> change Vendor ( Import Vendor to Domestic Vendor) -
> Amount 4000 INR -
> also change Tax Code of Line Item -
>Simulate
Vendor A\c -
> 4,348.18 INR Cr
Stock A\c -
> 4,000.00 INR Dr
Service Tax -
> 338.04 INR Dr
ECS -
> 6.76 INR Dr
HECS -
> 3.38 INR Dr
Above process I m doing against Import PO but I m not identify why its calculated Wrong Service Tax or calculating on which base amount ?
Actual Entry
Vendor A\c -
> 4,412.00 INR Cr
Stock A\c -
> 4,000.00 INR Dr
Service Tax -
> 400.00 INR Dr
ECS -
> 8.00 INR Dr
HECS -
> 4.00 INR Dr
Edited by: pawansarda on Jan 21, 2012 11:41 AM -
Dear Guru's
I have a question regarding LIV and Subsequent Debits.
We have a Value Tolerance set of Lower 20% or £50 and upper 2% or £10 (OMR6). I have a Purchase Order for qty 1 Value £1,500. At this point no GR has taken place.
In MIRO I create an Invoice Receipt for Qty 1 at £1,400 and as expected the Invoice is Payment Blocked. Message in MIRO states GR qty equals Zero and Value below Tolerance.
However, If I now do a subsequent Debit for the remaining £100 this does not Block. I understand the value has now matched the PO, but the GR qty is still Zero.
This cause's a problem in that the original Invoice Receipt is still blocked but the Subsequent Debit is available for payment.
Is there any way i can get the Subsequent Debit to automatically Block in the above scenario.
Many Thanks
Paul GrayA subsequent debit is designed to be used only when you have extra payment to be processed for an invoice that has already been processed and paid. Here you are talking about an invoice that is yet to paid, that is why you are facing this issue. The correct process here is to cancel the unpaid invoice and then post a new invoice for 1500 pounds.
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Dear All ,
kindly help me out in this issue as i have done the I,V for a P.O but IV is still tobe done for freight as Rs2000/- is to be paid through MIRO, But in invoice The actual freight is Rs 4000/- Kindly guide me that how i can pay the rest 2000/-as subsequent debit i have never done this before pl help me out , i " be very thankfull to all .
point will be awarded immed.
thanks in adv
sap11Hi
To post a subsequent debit/credit, proceed as follows:
1.Fill out the initial screen. In the section Select, specify the purchase order to which the subsequent debit/credit refers. Enter the indicator for the type of subsequent debit/credit in question in the Subsequent debit/credit field. To proceed to the vendor screen, press ENTER.
2.Fill out the vendor screen. Press ENTER to display the selection screen. The order items are listed. The Quantity column contains the previously invoiced quantity; the Value column is empty.. All the items are selected.
3.For those items to which the subsequent debit/credit applies, enter the amount and, if necessary, correct the quantity. Select the items that are affected by the subsequent debit/credit.
4.After you have chosen Goto ® Document overview, the system checks whether price variances are caused by the subsequent debit/credit. If this is the case, you automatically proceed to each individual item screen where there is a price variance. By pressing ENTER, you proceed from one item screen to the next and from the last screen to the document overview.
5.Choose Document ® Post to post the document, provided the balance equals zero. -
Hi,
to all SAP Guru,
Account Postings Made when an Invoice Is Posted as a Subsequent Debit:
PO- 100 Piece @ 10 Rs
GR- 50 Piece
Invoice 70 Piece @ 11 Rs == 770 Rs
Invoice for Rs 105 for 70 Pieces (Subsequent Debit).
At GR:-
Stock Account- 500+
GR/IR Account- 500-
At invoice-
Stock account- 50+
GR/IR account- 720+
Vendor Account- 770-
Subsequent Debit-
Stock Account- 75+
GR/IR Account- 30+
Vendor Account- 105-
So my question is
At Invoice- How stock account Dr.with 50, GR/IR Dr. with 720 Came........
& At Subsequent Debit- How Stock Account Dr.with 75, GR/IR Dr. with 30, came.....
plz sir/mam help me out..bcoz i always get confuse in account posting
And Same plz give me example of Subsequent Credit that how
Account Postings Made when an Invoice Is Posted as a Subsequent Credit:
plz........At invoice-
Stock account- 50+
GR/IR account- 720+
Vendor Account- 770-
invoice price is 5 rs more than PO price, and you use moving average price so the additional price is hitting inventory account. If you use standard price, 50 will go to PRD account.
Subsequent Debit-
Stock Account- 75+
GR/IR Account- 30+
Vendor Account- 105-
If the quantity of the subsequent debit/credit is larger than the quantity delivered, the system distributes the relevant amount proportionally. The part of the subsequent debit/credit that does not have a goods receipt is posted to the GR/IR clearing account. The remaining amount is posted to the stock account u2013 or in the case of standard price control or insufficient stock coverage u2013 to a price difference account. picked from [http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/a8/b99725452b11d189430000e829fbbd/content.htm]
In your case, system proportianately distributes the stock.. i.e 105/75 = 1.5.. you have stock of 50.. 50*1.5 = 75 which goes to stock account and the remaining goes the GR/IR clearing account. subsequent debit value 105 is credited with vendor account.. same happen in subsequent credit in a reverse way.
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