SUBSEQUENT DEBIT IN MIRO
Dear All ,
kindly help me out in this issue as i have done the I,V for a P.O but IV is still tobe done for freight as Rs2000/- is to be paid through MIRO, But in invoice The actual freight is Rs 4000/- Kindly guide me that how i can pay the rest 2000/-as subsequent debit i have never done this before pl help me out , i " be very thankfull to all .
point will be awarded immed.
thanks in adv
sap11
Hi
To post a subsequent debit/credit, proceed as follows:
1.Fill out the initial screen. In the section Select, specify the purchase order to which the subsequent debit/credit refers. Enter the indicator for the type of subsequent debit/credit in question in the Subsequent debit/credit field. To proceed to the vendor screen, press ENTER.
2.Fill out the vendor screen. Press ENTER to display the selection screen. The order items are listed. The Quantity column contains the previously invoiced quantity; the Value column is empty.. All the items are selected.
3.For those items to which the subsequent debit/credit applies, enter the amount and, if necessary, correct the quantity. Select the items that are affected by the subsequent debit/credit.
4.After you have chosen Goto ® Document overview, the system checks whether price variances are caused by the subsequent debit/credit. If this is the case, you automatically proceed to each individual item screen where there is a price variance. By pressing ENTER, you proceed from one item screen to the next and from the last screen to the document overview.
5.Choose Document ® Post to post the document, provided the balance equals zero.
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>Tax code - S3 ( 10.30 % Services Tax) -
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> Amount 4000 INR -
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hi all,
i want to post subsequent debit for a vendor before invoice. but the system is giving a message "The quantity to be debited/credited cannot be any greater than the quantity invoiced so far."
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Subsequent debit : Rarely, you receive from your vendors invoices or credit memos that refer to transactions that have already been invoiced. Your company wants to use subsequent debits/credits to process these documents. A subsequent debit/credit changes the total invoice value only of a purchase order item but the total invoice quantity remains unchanged.
The processes are:
1) Subsequent credit or even subsequent debit is done when total VALUE" of invoice is changed.
2) Total invoice Quantity is remained same.
3) Only value based transaction takes place & not quantity base.
4) If credit memo is received from memo then subsequent credit is done in MIRO.
For example vendor has submitted invoice of 100 Qty for Rs 1000 & we have posted the invoice & subsequently he realized that he has invoice for higher price i.e. it should have been actually 900 Rs as against Rs 1000 .In this case he will send a credit memo of Rs 100 for which we will be doing subsequent credit.
5) This is done for PO items if an invoice is already posted
6) cannot refer to particular invoice
7) Listed separately in PO history
8) In PO total values is updated but not Quantity.
For ur case you can pay to Vendor(freight cost ) by selecting Planned Delivery Cost instead of Goods/Services items in MIRO T.Code
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while doing subsequent debit for the vendor the Excise duty is calculating wrong
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i have purchase 100 quty with value 10/kg total amount is 1000 for that
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jrpMy understanding about the Input Tax and Output Tax was wrong. In the issue reported
Input Tax Calculation should be:
Vendor A/C.............. Cr 30000-
Expense A/C............ Dr 29100
Input Tax A/C............ Dr 900 (@3% on 30000)---my understanding was wrong.
Input Tax 3% should be charged on Expense amount, in this case Rs 30000. But because in the editing option calculate tax on net amount option was not selected, hence SAP was giving the below entry, which is correct as well.
Vendor A/C.............. Cr 30000-
Expense A/C............ Dr 29126.21
Input Tax A/C............ Dr 873.79 (@3% on 29126.21) which is correct.
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Correct Entry should be:
Vendor A/C...............Cr 30900
Expense A/C............Dr 30000
Input Tax A/C............Dr 900
Resolved. Pankaj has given the correct answer. -
Hi,
I see a scenario where a blanket purchase order is created , but without the item category 'B'. The value is limited by the quantity entered in the PO and by releasing it. The invoices are posted against the PO, with the amounts in the invoices from the vendor. And Goods Receipt also posted for that amount.
Once a subsequent debit is posted for the credit note received. Is there a necessity to post a GR in this case(possible with a negative value?). And if so, what could be the movement type.
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AparnaHello
Thanks for ur Reply.
MIRO -- Subsequent Debit -
>Tax code - S3 ( 10.30 % Services Tax) -
>PO NO. -
> change Vendor ( Import Vendor to Domestic Vendor) -
> Amount 4000 INR -
> also change Tax Code of Line Item -
>Simulate
Vendor A\c -
> 4,348.18 INR Cr
Stock A\c -
> 4,000.00 INR Dr
Service Tax -
> 338.04 INR Dr
ECS -
> 6.76 INR Dr
HECS -
> 3.38 INR Dr
Above process I m doing against Import PO but I m not identify why its calculated Wrong Service Tax or calculating on which base amount ?
Actual Entry
Vendor A\c -
> 4,412.00 INR Cr
Stock A\c -
> 4,000.00 INR Dr
Service Tax -
> 400.00 INR Dr
ECS -
> 8.00 INR Dr
HECS -
> 4.00 INR Dr
Edited by: pawansarda on Jan 21, 2012 11:41 AM -
Subsequent debit, credit and credit memo
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what is the difference between subsequent debit, credit and credit memo in MIRO transaction.
In case of vendor had given us credit note with relevant to particular for which we had already completed the invoice verification and payment also paid.
in this case what document should i use i.e crdit memo, subsequent credit memo or subsequent debit memo??
plz suggestHi
You need to use a credit memo.
Subsequent debit is used if you have already invoiced
You have already received an invoice from your vendor for all the goods received. Subsequently, freight costs are to be taken into account, however, the invoice quantity remains the same.
Subsequent credit is used if you already have done a credit memo on the PO
You have already received a credit memo from your vendor for all the goods received. Subsequently, freight costs are to be credited to your company, however, the credit memo quantity remains the same.
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Dear Guru's
I have a question regarding LIV and Subsequent Debits.
We have a Value Tolerance set of Lower 20% or £50 and upper 2% or £10 (OMR6). I have a Purchase Order for qty 1 Value £1,500. At this point no GR has taken place.
In MIRO I create an Invoice Receipt for Qty 1 at £1,400 and as expected the Invoice is Payment Blocked. Message in MIRO states GR qty equals Zero and Value below Tolerance.
However, If I now do a subsequent Debit for the remaining £100 this does not Block. I understand the value has now matched the PO, but the GR qty is still Zero.
This cause's a problem in that the original Invoice Receipt is still blocked but the Subsequent Debit is available for payment.
Is there any way i can get the Subsequent Debit to automatically Block in the above scenario.
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Paul GrayA subsequent debit is designed to be used only when you have extra payment to be processed for an invoice that has already been processed and paid. Here you are talking about an invoice that is yet to paid, that is why you are facing this issue. The correct process here is to cancel the unpaid invoice and then post a new invoice for 1500 pounds.
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Subsequent debit function for MRKO settlement
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We have one business requirement for one of our client,
The business requirement is ERS - Automatic invoice settlement is paid for the amount of Rs 150 for the qty of 10. After the automatic invoice settlement via using t.coe MRRL, We can able to Post the subsequent debit for the for qty of 10 and amount increased of 200 by vendor. Incase of price changed by vendor after settlement through the ERS we can post the excess amount using subsequent debit settled accordingly.
The same requirement is needed for Consignment and Pipeline settlment (MRKO) function also,but however we settled the invoice using MRKO after that in MIRO transaction not able to post the corrosponding subsequent debit.
Any other setting is require to post the subsequent debit for consignment and pipe line?
How to settle the excess amount in case of price change of consignment invoice?
- Regards,
VeluHi,
ERS - Automatic invoice settlement is always refer the PO .
so, you can post the Subsequent debit if price increase. because price dertermined from Purchase Order.
But MRKO. the Price determined from Info record.
If the Info record the how can we use subsequent debit option.
also MRKO is the process to intimate to consignment vendor about the cunsumption only. it won't determine any price.
Not possible to use subsequent functionality for MRKO.
SAM
Edited by: Saminathan Gopalan on Jun 23, 2010 3:04 PM
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