Is Motion a total piece of garbage?

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Even when things are running well, there's always some weird glitch or system hang that makes this thing practicly unusable. Like continuous playback, even after the spacebar is hit or the mouse is clicked or the escape button is hit and I have to force quit. Sometimes it won't let me delete layers and I have to quit. Sometimes it won't let me copy layers, between projects and otherwise, and I have to quit. And gosh darn it, sometimes it just up and quits on its own.
There are a limited set of key shortcuts for navigating the timeline (1 frame, 10 frames, next and previous markers, jump to in/out point, jump to begining/end of project, that's it) No zoom in/out (moving the mouse pointer back and forth between that little slider is getting old), no jump to next edit, a hand tool for the timeline would be useful, no way to reliably go to the begining/end of a layer without using the mouse and shift key, and that mini timeline bar below the canvas is useless if your project is longer than a few minutes. Why didn't they just port over the navigation scheme from FCP and have a customizable shortcut layout and make it easy on everyone?
Why doesn't it copy and paste layers directly to where the playhead is, instead of where the layer was copied from? It seems like there is a lot of dragging and dropping necessary to make this program work and I don't know how the rest of you feel, but that's not really how I work.
No copying digits in the inspector to the clipboard, no way to reliably synch graphics to audio because of either audio or frame drop, and now I'm having a synch issue because Motion is incapable of a 23.976 fps frame rate, only 23.98.
This program has the potential to be a really great tool and I know that this is only the second version, but Apple has a bit of a problem with usablility, in my opinion. It seems like they want you to use their products a certain way and if you deviate from that, you will run into problems. There should be at least 3 different ways to do the same thing, like in Photoshop or even FCP for that matter. A lot of their interface design is dumbed down in favor of using a one button mouse all of the time instead of giving users options (context menus anyone?). Really, they should be jacking sucessful design concepts and packing them into every product they make instead of trying to reinvent the wheel every time. Anyone try and use Soundtrack Pro?
Oh, and if anyone has any answers to the issues I'm having in the first three paragraphs, any feedback would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
-G
1.6 GHz G5 1.5GB RAM   Mac OS X (10.4.3)   Final Cut Studio

I see your point, but the tool is still very useful
to me. It's hardly a piece of garbage. I still use
After Effects 10% of the time, but Motion with it's
quirks has become my tool of choice for most stuff
that FCP can't handle.
Maybe I just don't enjoy quirky software. I like it when it works the same every time, rather than trying to figure out what set of operations I just performed produced the glitch I have to deal with now, but thats's just me.
Here is one point that I don't understand:
I'm having a synch issue because Motion is
incapable of a 23.976 fps frame rate, only 23.98.
What kind of work are you doing where this causes the
sync to get messed up? By my math, your sequence
would have to be nearly an hour long before the
difference would even express itself.
I have a five act doc that was shot in 24p DV, up-resed to HD at 23.976 fps and then down-resed to NTSC quicktime files at the same frame rate to be used as reference for the lower thirds I am creating. The acts range in length from 9 minutes to 30 minutes. The thing is that all they consist of is the base reference movie layer and either 1 text layer or 1 text layer, one still and one mask. Everything synchs up perfectly in Motion, but when I output just the lower thirds with alpha and then drop them into FCP and place them over the same reference movie I used in Motion, which is what is going to happen when the lower thirds are encorporated into the actual upres, the lower thirds don't synch. Specificly, one title takes place at 00:20:09:07 in Motion. That's 1809 seconds, 7 frames. At 23.98 fps that's 43386.82 frames. At 23.976 that's 43379.584 frames, a difference of roughly 7 frames, which means the lower thirds at 23.98 fps is going to shift forward 7 frames, which is about what I've been seeing in FCP. The titles occur later than they should.
The reason the project files are so long is because they have to be. I'm just doing the lower thirds and then handing off the output to someone else to be placed into the final output. There are at least 175-200 titles that need to be in synch and chopping it up and doing it manually after my output is a bit of a headache, about a days worth.
I don't
believe Motion was intended for editing long
sequences and this could be part of your problem.
Good to know, but everything I've read and heard has led me to belive this was appropriate for longer projects. Guess I was wrong.
I break my Motion projects into small pieces and
reassemble them in FCP. Smaller sequences are easier
for Motion to manage since it uses RAM to cache your
footage. Perhaps some of your freezing problems are
related to loading long sequences.
Not long sequences. One base reference layer and many small (3-5 sec) text animations. The thing is that Motion will behave itself for a fair amount of time, but then I will give me weird problems for a half and hour. Obviously, I need a better machine (don't we all), but I've used Motion on newer dual processor G5's with a lot of RAM and decent GPU, and it still crashes sporatically. Can't wait for Motion 3.
Thanks for caring:)
-G
1.6 GHz G5 1.5GB RAM Mac OS X (10.4.3) Final Cut Studio

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    2/2/08 1:12:08 AM Motion[174] HIToolbox: ignoring exception '* -[NSCFDictionary initWithObjects:forKeys:count:]: attempt to insert nil value at objects[0] (key: NSCTFontCharacterSetAttribute)' that raised inside Carbon event dispatch
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    2/2/08 1:12:10 AM Motion[174] HIToolbox: ignoring exception '* -[NSCFDictionary initWithObjects:forKeys:count:]: attempt to insert nil value at objects[0] (key: NSCTFontCharacterSetAttribute)' that raised inside Carbon event dispatch
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    2/2/08 1:12:42 AM [0x0-0x2c02c].com.apple.motion[174] 0 bytes NOT freed (0 blocks)
    2/2/08 1:12:42 AM [0x0-0x2c02c].com.apple.motion[174] Maximum blocks allocated at once: 0
    2/2/08 1:12:42 AM [0x0-0x2c02c].com.apple.motion[174] Total blocks used: 0
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