Issues with limit/filter on outer join table in BQY

I'm converting a series of BQY's from Brio 6.6 to Hyperion 9.3. I have some questions about the "use ODBC outer join syntax on limits" option in the OCE. I sort of understand this option's purpose, but I don't completely understand the SQL I'm seeing. For example Brio 6.6 is generating the following SQL statement:
SELECT * FROM tblA AL1 LEFT OUTER JOIN tblB AL38 ON (AL38.ParentID=AL1.ChildID AND
AL38.Data='SomeData') WHERE ((NOT AL38.Action IS NULL))
Now, Hyperion 9.3 generated the SQL statement as follows:
SELECT * FROM tblA AL1 LEFT OUTER JOIN tblB AL38 ON (AL38.ParentID=AL1.ChildID AND
AL38.Data='SomeData') AND (NOT AL38.Response IS NULL))
My questions are:
1) Why isn't the "NOT AL38.Action IS NULL" statement included in the outer join in Brio? My limited understanding of the "use ODBC outer join syntax on limits" seems to indicate that it should end up there. I want the SQL to look like this, but I don't know why Brio generates this SQL.
2) How can I get Hyperion to generate the same SQL as Brio? And still use the OCE with "use ODBC outer join syntax on limits" selected?

Setting the Cardinality of Department > Employee role to OptionalOne
gives rise to cartesian join (which is a bigger issue).
Therefore, the Cardinality of Department > Employee role should remain as
OptionalMany (default).
This means, the outer join problem still remains unsolved. I have, therefore,
unmarked the above answer by me.
The question is - why has Report Builder been designed in such a way that the primary entity is always the child entity when attributes are selected from both parent and child entities?
Most people desire that all the rows of the parent entity be fetched irrespective of whether there are corresponding rows in the child entity or not. Report Builder tool should not dictate what the user wants to get, meaning it is not right to assume
that the focus of the report is Employee when attributes are selected from both Department and Employee. Report Builder should not make the child entity (i.e., Employee) as the primary entity when the user selects attributes from the child entity after
having selected attributes from the parent entity.
I am sorry to say that clients may not accept the Report Builder tool as this does not fetch the records as desired.
I hope there is someone who can suggest how the outer join problem can be solved by just tweaking the properties of the report model (SMDL).
Besides, the end users are business users and are not tech savvy. They are not expected to modify queries. They would simply drag and drop attributes from entities to create adhoc reports.

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Thank you, Scott Newman

Dear Michael,
Last night I had a call from user who was experiencing a very strange behaviour of her Discoverer workbook.
I replicated the issue on my machine and could not believe my eyes. A condition on an item was being ignored. I then analysed the workbook and realised it was due to a condition on an item from an outer-joined folder. I did not have the strength after a long day to deal with it and was looking forward to having some fun the next day. Firstly, I tried few tricks such as NVL, LENGTH functions in a test query in Toad. I hate to give up but I did and searched threads on this forum and opened few. The very first thread I read was this one and I laughed when I read your advice. Only until the moment I tested it in the troubled workbook. It worked like a charm. I take my hat off to you Michael. I have rarely experienced such a satisfaction when solving a tricky problem during my 9-year-long Oracle Discoverer journey. This goes straight to my little text file with interesting problems and solutions.
Thank you very much. I owe you a beer or two.
It is great to have an expert like you, always ready to share his knowledge with his colleagues.
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My apologies for this massive post, I could not resist expressing my joy and gratitude.
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thanks in advance .
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Hi Dorota,
Choudhary S was right.
İ have notified the SAP about this issue..they wrote me below note :
As SAP tables have no concept for NULL, we
have to restrict this condition to not allow excluding condition to be
used any more. But alternatively, you could use including to replace it.
Please check my last reply to see the detailed reason for it, and
this explaination is from our development colleagues.
For this note 1435772, you could also see why this error message
arises.
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i just used include to replace that exluding condition.it takes little time but the problem is solving.
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SELECT * FROM v$version;
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