Just Using iPhoto vs Aperture?

Now that I'm retired, I'm just getting back into photography, big difference film vs digital! I'm shooting in RAW and a little concerned that by just using iPhoto for simple/basic editing and organizing I might be missing out on the additional things you could do w/Aperture. Any thoughts and is Adobe Lighthouse5 "editing overkill"?

If you are comitted to RAW and want to upgrade I suggest Aperture - I believe there still is a 30 day trial - not positive, check it out
The Trial version has been discontinued, Larry, when Aperture has been moved to the App Store.
MACROB2, if you are happy with iPhoto and already have iPhoto Libraries, but want a more versatile editing and library organisation, I'd recommend Aperture. It is well integrated with iPhoto. You can simply open your iPhoto libraries in Aperture and continue. And you can switch back to iPhoto, whenever you want to use iPhoto. Both apps work on the same libraries.
Aperture will simply give you more control over the editing - you can adjust more paramaters; and you have more possibilities to tag your images with custom fields or search for any EXIF and IPTC tag. And if you have a really large photo library you can spread it over several disks, if you are running out of spavce.

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Anyone using iPhoto and Aperture??

Apple newbie here...I have iPhoto and Aperture on my iMac. I've been loading new pics onto iPhoto and Aperture, but am guessing it's taking a ton of storage space with duplication? Just wondered what more experienced users are doing???

BAckup to CD & DVD, you'd be able to do something similar with either product so I'm not sure that would be much help in deciding.
(And BTW backing up to CD/DVD's may not be your best option given all the changes in technology but thats a different discussion )
So yes you probably have some duplication going on. I'd be leery of deleting anything until you know for certain just what is duplicated and where. Depending on your import settings things may not be as clear as they might seem.
So it would seem you still need to make a decision iPhoto or Aperture. To get you thinking Aperture is clearly the more advanced program from both the standpoints of image management and image adjustment. It also has a hefty learning curve and places more demand on your hardware.
iPhoto has been around a long time and seems to fit the needs of most casual shooters. It has some nicer consumer oriented features as far as themes for slideshows and books and in the image printing end, postcards and letter paper and such. Some of these features would still be accessible to you if you were using Aperture via the media browser.
Hope this helps.

Transfer photos from camera to iMAC without using iPhoto or Aperture

Hi
I have been having all sorts of problems with iPhoto which seems to have collapsed on account of me having too many photos (250GB). I have been recommended to download Aperture which holds a higher capacity of photos, which I have done. I transferred my iPhoto photos to Aperture and Aperture promptly collapsed...! So, I am now sorting out my photos on an external hard drive and will then re-import them into new Aperture libraries for each year I think so that they do not get jammed up.
I am stuck however, as I am now trying to download photos from my camera onto the iMac without using either iPhoto or Aperture and I cant seem to find a way to do it. I have connected the camera and looked in Finder and Preview but cant see the device there to retrieve the photos from it.
Anyone got any tips?
Also if you have tips on what to do if you have too many photos that would be greatly appreciated too.
Thanks

Well, when I migrated my photos from my MacBook Pro to my IMac in January 2011 some of the last set of photos I had taken did corrupt and I only realised a few months later when I went to make a photo book and got a black picture with an exclamation mark as the originals could not be found.
In my current reorganisation, I have copied the masters file from my macbook pro onto the external hard drive and the masters file from January 2011 onwards from my iMac onto the external drive also and filed all photos. I intend to reimport them from there, thus avoiding the corrupted ones.
The iphoto version is 9.4.3 and the aperture is 3.4.5
I now cannot open either iPhoto or the first library I transferred iPhoto photos to on Aperture. I just get the rainbow ball and it says 'not responding' so I have to force quit the applications. I send crash reports each time to Apple. I have iMac OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.5
Hoping the new library I have built will work. Do you think I can import the whole lot into a new Aperture library rather than break them down into years?
Thanks for your help Terrence
Catherine

Advice Using iPhoto and Aperture

Greetings - I've been a Mac user for 19 months and now have 3 Macs. I've been using iPhoto and enjoy it (my wife loves it as well). I am toying with picking up Aperture for my RAW photos. Here's my question -- I'll likely keep my photos separate from the iPhoto library. However, I would like to export edited photos from Aperture to place in my iPhoto albums (in iPhoto, I have my photos in folders by year, then within the years, I have albums of events). For example, I may have an album in he 2006 folder called Labor Day Weekend. If I import my RAW photos into Aperture, and decide that I want some of them in the iPhoto 2006 folder in the Labor Day Weekend album, can I export a copy to that album? May be a silly question, but this is a consideration for me.
Thanks, in advance!

Yes,
Since one of Aperture's primary function is to maintain a digital library it is important to have the ability to export files out of it.
Aperture gives you several format choices, NEF, JPEG (of varying quality), etc. You can then import them right into iPhoto as desired. I often do some photo-touching, then import in iPhoto, as I like. You can send retouched or originals. Quite a bit of flexibility

Do I have to use iPhoto or aperture to download pictures from an iPad?

I have photos taken with my iPad that I want to transfer to my Mac. I turned cloud on in both, but it wants to load iPhoto or aperture. II don't want to purchase these for a simple file transfer. What are my options?

No. you can use the built Image Capture on your Mac.
Import photos and videos from your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch to your Mac or Windows PC - Apple Support
Image Capture: Transfer images and other items from your device

Have just downloaded maverick and now can't use iPhoto or aperture...

looks like I have lost all my photos having downloaded mavericks on my macbook pro ... any way back?

Didn't run into the issue you are having but when I have upgraded iphoto in the past I didn't lose any photos and didn't when I upgraded to the new version for mavericks.

Camera raw update without using iPhoto or Aperture

I use Adobe LightRoom 4.4 for my photo editing and therefore I do not need Aperture or iPhoto.
However, I would also like to see the RAW thumbnails in my Finder windows from my Canon G15.
Is there a way to update the Digital Camera Raw without having to install (purchase) either of the Apple Applications?
I'm currrently running Lion but am happy to upgrade to Mountain Lion if necessary.
Thanks in advance.

Well, when I migrated my photos from my MacBook Pro to my IMac in January 2011 some of the last set of photos I had taken did corrupt and I only realised a few months later when I went to make a photo book and got a black picture with an exclamation mark as the originals could not be found.
In my current reorganisation, I have copied the masters file from my macbook pro onto the external hard drive and the masters file from January 2011 onwards from my iMac onto the external drive also and filed all photos. I intend to reimport them from there, thus avoiding the corrupted ones.
The iphoto version is 9.4.3 and the aperture is 3.4.5
I now cannot open either iPhoto or the first library I transferred iPhoto photos to on Aperture. I just get the rainbow ball and it says 'not responding' so I have to force quit the applications. I send crash reports each time to Apple. I have iMac OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.5
Hoping the new library I have built will work. Do you think I can import the whole lot into a new Aperture library rather than break them down into years?
Thanks for your help Terrence
Catherine

Is there anyway to give my wife access to my Aperture photos if she only uses iPhoto (not Aperture)?

If we share a wifi network..how can she get access to copy some of my Aperture photos (she only has iPhoto). It seems all my Aperture photos are stored inside the Aperture Library (on my MBP). But she can't really go in there over the wifi I'm guessing..since she doesn't have Aperture...

If you use the workflow I recommend your wife can access the backups of your originals from before they were entered into Aperture (store the backups in a location accessible to her). Of course, those originals will not have any edits performed in Aperture.
Suggested workflow steps:
• Use a FW card reader or MBP slot to copy to a file folder on the SSD or hard drive. With fast camera cards copy times are quick, but cheap slow cards can slow this step down a lot.
• Eject and physically disconnect the card reader.
• Back up that file folder on external drive(s).
• Only after backup is complete and verified, reformat the camera card in-camera.
• Import images into Aperture from the file folder on the SSD or hard drive.
IMO backing up images prior to import into Aperture or any other images app is an essential step for a competent workflow.
HTH
-Allen Wicks

Print quality difference between iphoto and aperture...?

when ordering books, is there a print quality difference between using iPhoto and Aperture? or are they sent to the same lab?
it's possible i may have some setting wrong, but when i order a book using iphoto, i never really feel the quality is that great. it's good, i just feel it could be a lot better. the print quality sort of reminds me of newsprint, albeit high quality newsprint. similar sized prints made at home on my basic 3-in-1 printer look better.
thanks...

Previews are what you view on your display. When you import a photo into Aperture (and I'm pretty sure iPhoto as well), your computer automatically generates a preview for quick viewing. The original images are stored in your library, but it is the preview that you see.
In Aperture, you are able to set the size and quality of these previews. When sharing photos between Aperture and iPhoto, the process is as follows:
Let's say that your images are stored in Aperture, but you also want to be able to view them in iPhoto without taking up too much room on your hard drive. Essentially, if you were to import the originals into iPhoto as well, you would be storing two exact, yet separate copies of the same image on your hard drive. As you are aware, with large images (whether JPEG's, and especially RAW) this would put quite a tax on your storage capacity after not too long.
So, you have your images in one or the other (in this case Aperture), but you want to play around with them in iPhoto. What you can do, is open iPhoto, go to the File menu and then select, Show Aperture Library. This will open a window with all of the contents of your Aperture Library. You can then drag any images you want into iPhoto . The only thing is, you are not dragging the original JPEG's, but rather, the previews of those images. If you have those previews set to a lower quality (again for capacity concerns), you will only have lower quality and lower detailed images in iPhoto. These images might not be ideal, or even suitable for printing high quality prints. The previews that you generate in Aperture though can be adjusted to be extremely high quality with no size limits.
My thinking was that since you mentioned Aperture, it sounded like you had experience with working with it and with ordering a photo book through Aperture. I guess you were saying that you ordered via iPhoto, weren't happy with the quality and were wondering if Aperture created books were better.
Anyway, if this is the case, I cannot answer that for you. I have never ordered a book through Aperture. If the quality of your images is good, you should be able to get a decent product no matter where you order it from. There is not doubt that the materials used and the print shop that does the work makes a difference, but if your images are good, you should still get a decent product through iPhoto. Perhaps iPhoto isn't the way to go though if you have had poor experiences with them.
If you haven't used Aperture yet, I would highly recommend it though aside from the photo book aspect of this thread. It is a stellar product.
I hope this helps.
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Moving from DPP/iPhoto to Aperture

With the price cut I succumbed and bought Aperture and am pretty pleased with it. I love the workflow - miles better than before. Now though I have to decide how I am going to deal with all my old images. I've had my Canon 350D for about a year now and have taken 2500 images, all of which I have stored in RAW format in date named folders as imported by the Canon software. I then used Canon DPP to modify the images as necessary, generate JPEGs and then put the JPEGs into iPhoto for cataloguing, making into books etc etc. Also in the iPhoto library I have lots of pictures from my own and my friends compact cameras, totalling 4280 images.
So my question is how to use iPhoto and Aperture going forward, and what to do with my old EOS350D files. Is there any way I can somehow import these JPEGs with their organisational structure into Aperture but also associate the RAW files with it? Or should I maybe just take my best images, put them into Aperture as RAWs and ignore the others? Or take the RAWs and reorganise them? Or should I just take the whole iPhoto Library and use Aperture for RAWs, JPEGs, compact digicam pics etc etc.
BEar in mind that the way I tend to work is to just take lots of shots and keep them as a history of stuff I've done or events I've been at. I like to have a collection of shots from, say, a wedding to remind me of it. It doesn't have to be a great photo if it means something to me or people close to me. Occassionally I'll get a goodie that I might do something with and enlarge for showing to a broader audience (more through luck than judgement probably!), but really I tend to use the DSLR the way a lot of people use a compact, but get better pictures.
Any thoughts/suggestions?
Powermac G5 1.6MHz Mac OS X (10.4)

Do you intend to do further work on those old RAW
files?
Of course. At any rate, I want to have them at hand.
If so, you should have no trouble importing
them into Aperture if they were taken by a camera
supported by Aperture. They should be in your
Pictures folder in their original form.
I use my own organizational system that spans (at the moment) 7 300 GB disks. The Picutes folder is too limiting. I don't use iPhoto to import, therefore all of my RAW files exist together in a folder for each project.
If you
worked on them in DPP, then DPP will have an extra
file of instructions on what to do to the RAW in
order to produce the final image. But the RAW files
themselves will be in their original form and
Aperture will import them. ORIGINAL RAW FILES ARE
NEVER MODIFIED! There is no such thing as a "DPP
modified CR2 file".
With all due respect, yes there is such a thing, sort of. DPP will append the recipe data to the end of the RAW file (embedded within the file, but not within the raw data itself). Therefore, you could say that the raw file has been changed, in that it's been added to.
Aperture will not import the DPP
recipe, nor will Aperture import the RAW file as
modified by the DPP recipe.
Do you mean to look as modified by the recipe? That is understood and expected. Fortunately Aperture seems to have a similar look compared to DPP.
My concern however, is whether Aperture will recognize/import CR2 files that have been handled by another raw converter "modified" i.e., had recipe data embedded within them. I'm not concerned that Aperture will not interpret the recipe files and give a similar look (I should have clarified that in the first post).
Maybe I should post this as a new question to avoid hijacking the original questions raised by Phil (but I would be interested in hearing from you Phil - or anyone who uses DPP).
Ron
G5 2.3DP 4GB RAM & iBook G4 12" Mac OS X (10.4.6) Canon EOS-1D II N cameras, DPP & Photo Mechanic 4.4.2

IPhoto to Aperture Questions

I currently have over 17,000 photos in iPhoto. I really need something more to organize my photos. I have downloaded the trial version of Aperture and have imported my iPhoto library (referenced).
What are the advantages/disadvantages of referenced vs managed? I imported mine as referenced but I am thinking that I should import them as managed and then delete the iPhoto library once I get Aperture up and running. I would then use Aperture for my photo management and abandon iPhoto.
Other wise if I leave the photos in Aperture as referenced, can I use iPhoto and Aperture? example; if I import photos from my camera into iPhoto; do I then have to import them into Aperture? Picaso, I believe, scans the photo library for new photos; does Aperture do this so that I can use both?
Thanks Gary

Hello Gary,
Managed and referenced Libraries both have their advantages:
The big advantage of a managed library is that to the finder it is just one single archive folder, that easily can be copied or moved. And you do not have to keep track of your master image files, Aperture will do that for you. A managed library is perfect, as long as you do not run out of disk space on your drive.
The advantage of a referenced library is, that you can separate the master files from the Aperture library and you can move them to an external drive, when your Aperture Library gets to big to be kept on the internal drive. However, that makes the master file accessible by the Finder, and you might be tempted to proccess them outside Aperture without going thru Aperture. This way, you can easily corrupt your Aperture LIbrary.
You were asking, if you can share your iPhoto images with Aperture by leaving them inside iPhoto:
That will be risky on the long run. You can store the master files in iPhoto, but that would be pointless, for you must not process or edit or modify the Aperture masters in any other way then by going thru Aperture. Otherwise Aperture will loose the connection between the master files and the edited versions of the masters.
If you still want to keep some images in iPhoto, you can use the iPhoto Browser in Aperture to read your iPhoto Library, and to import recently added images, but adding images to iPhoto will not automatically add them to your Aperture Library.
If you still have questions, go ahead and ask more. I am sure, others will add to this post.
Regards
Léonie

Browsing Behavior: iPhoto vs Aperture

I'm currently using iPhoto and Aperture concurrently (iPhoto for browsing/storage, Aperture for importing/tagging/editing), but I really want to switch over to just Aperture. There is one thing that's keeping me from moving to Aperture for browsing and storage:
In iPhoto, when you open the library (not an album, the whole library) I can scroll through events, open one, then click "show all events" and it returns me back to where I was on the list of events (I have approx. 1000 events, so this is important). Aperture almost replicates this, when you click on All Projects, you get swipe-able project thumbs, just like events. However, when you open a project, then click back on All Projects, you end up at the top of the list, not the scroll point you were previously at.
I know this doesn't sound like much, but it's a deal breaker for me in terms of finishing my migration. I often am looking through a big list of events, browsing through pictures from, say, 20 of them around the same time period to get the right shot. Having to scroll back down to the point I left off at every time I exit a project back to the main list is horribly annoying.
Anyone have any ideas on how to replicate iPhoto's behavior in Aperture?
Thanks in advance,
Elliot

Interesting, I didn't know about top tier folders. That gets me most of the way there - the scroll behavior is correct, but then I'm looking at all the photos, not swipe-enabled projects...
Don't get me wrong, when I'm doing post on a shoot, Aperture handles organization really well, but in terms of having all my shots and projects from the last decade laid out, I find iPhoto's chronological event view much more appealing than a really long list of nested folders. Apertures "All Projects" comes so close to working, but that scroll behavior (resetting to the top of the list) really kills it's usefulness to me.

IPhone - how to sync with iPhoto and Aperture at the same time ???

I'm having a really hard time with syncing my photos - I'm using iPhoto and Aperture on my Mac. When I launch iTunes and start managing my iPhone, it seems like I should be able to sync photos from a variety of sources all at once (iPhoto, Aperture, other folders).
However, whichever option I select in the photos drop-down becomes the only libraries that are available to sync. What I mean is that if I select some of the Albums in my iPhoto list and sync those, when I later drill down to Aperture and select albums from there and perform a sync - then the previously synced/loaded albums and photos from iPhoto are automatically removed from the iPhone.
Why can't I sync between multiple photo albums / sources at the same time? This is incredibly annoying.

Here's how I solved this problem:
In Aperture, select File -> Import -> iPhoto Library
Then under the "Store Files" dropdown, be sure "In their Original Location" is select. This will allow Aperture to see your iPhoto library, but it will be managed by reference rather than phyisically imported.
Now, in iTunes, select Aperture as the application from which you want to synch photos, and select the option to synch specific albums.
You should be able to see the names of albums in iPhoto as well as those created in Aperture.

Thumbnail view of RAW files in Finder w/o iphoto or aperture?

I would like to see photos shot with Canon 6D in finder or preview without using iphoto or aperture. I tried to install RAWcameraup4.04 but was told iphoto or aperture is required. Is there any plug-in or a way to work with these RAW files without buying iphoto or aperture? Thanks!

Try the application Image Capture. It is located in your applications folder.
If you launch iMage capture, then connect your camera, you should be able to import the data off the camera to a folder on your computer, using this applicaiton.
This web site may help - http://www.macgasm.net/2010/05/07/image-capture-free-import-tool-on-mac-os-x/.

IPhoto and Aperture together...plus 2 Mac's

I'm trying to figure out the best way to organize my photots so that I can use iPhoto and Aperture together. A possible workflow is to first, import photos to iPhoto then use Aperture by importing but leaving photos in their current location. Not sure which way is the best.
Also...anyone working with 2 Mac's? I have a MBP which I use for everything yet want to get the photos on the home iMac so that my family can view them. Anyone have any ideas how to best deal with this?

Three option:
1. as you describe you can export from Ap and import to iPhoto on the other machine.
or, if you have brought the images to iPhoto already:
2. Link the machines together (wired or wireless) and used iPhoto sharing:
Enable Sharing in your iPhoto (Preferences -> Sharing), leave iPhoto running and go to the other Machine. There, enable 'Look For Shared Libraries'. Your Library will appear in the other source pane.
Remember iPhoto must be running on both machines for this to work. You can drag images from the Shared library to the host on the iMac
3. Use iPhoto Library Manager to move pics/albums/events and metadata between iPhoto libraries.
Regards
TD
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