K8N Neo-FSR Appears to re-flash BIOS each boot

After 2 uneventful days with my new New-FSR, I installed a few more programs including MotherboardMonitor. Upon reboot (MbM insists), I noticed the BIOS POST phase appeared to be quite hung. Power cycled a few times, and then finally guessed that some long-running action (e.g. re-flashing) is taking place - so I waited about 4 minutes.
I next noticed that the BIOS complained of a Checksum Error - buit nevertheless continued to boot WinXP. This could be repeated consistently.
Attempting the easiest guess, I powered down and reset the CMOS settings. This had no effect - other than erasing a few of my adjustments to the BIOS Defaults of course.
Next I tried removing MbM. I really can't imagine that MbM "did anytning" to my BIOS, but it does reach down into the bowels of the motherboard. In any event, this had no effect.
Finally, I broke down and used Live Update 3 to update the BIOS. I had noticed it was at v1.2 - at least the 2nd time I rebooted after the initial MfM install reboot. Live Update 3 located v1.3 and performed the update from within Windows - kind of slick :-). Still the same behavior.
I'm worried that I'm reflashing each boot. Not a good idea. Things can go wrong :-(. I'm not much worried about the "wear" on the flash, but the delay is certainly annoying what with all these apps insisting on a reboot everytime.
Any help would be appreciated.

Though I received no help here or via MSI TechSupport, I thought I'd post my solution in case anybody cares here...
The problem was introduced when I plugged in a USB-2 device from Sasem (their OnAir USB2 HDTV box). If I unplug this during BIOS POST, the motherboard boots as expected with no 4-5 minute delay.
For details, see this thread. I thought the issue deserved it's own thread...

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i think that should work. it looks like the bios can still read disks, so its worth a try.
....but the flashing procedure will take longer than 10sec.....so there is no big chance to get this done.
But you can try it. Just download the File attached, it will create a Boot Disc. Then copy your Bios Bin-file (w7030nms.150) to the floppy disc and rename it to "Bios.bin".
Good Luck
Greetz MurdoK
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Hi Stu, yesterday I think i found out what u mean lol. I studied a 'Sticky' ? about overclocking A64s and found some interesting stuff. Apparently overclocking the HTT is dangerous, and A64s are always at least half locked. Now with this in mind Ive been wondering if there are interlocks built into my mainboard stopping me from using the 'CPU Overclock' function to overclock my pc manually from the set 200Mhz while my HTT is still set at 4x. -I say this as the HTT on my system is 800Mhz for a socket754 Sempron 3000Bx, thus overclocking this would increase my HTT above the 800Mhz threashold (I think) lol. All sounds complex but I think Ive figured it out as Im following instructions from the sticky to lower my HTT multiplier before increasing my cpu overclock. Its hard as my mainboard has Nforce3 chipset which has different ways of overclocking to every other board lol. So far I have managed to increase the overclock, but only when the HTT multiplier is lowered to 3x. I have also lowered my cpu multiplier though, and thus am trying to figure out where my 1810Mhz clock speed has changed to 1630 lol. Will try again now. I want to raise the clock speed above 1810, keeping the HTT lower than 800 and leaving the memory alone at 400DDR lol. Im hoping the memory is seperate as it seems to be on this chipset.

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Quote from: Tiresmoke on 21-March-05, 00:19:19
As undervolting is not considured standard operating proceedures then how can it be considured a bug.
nor is overclocking but MSI mobo manual reads 'This motherboard is designed to support overclocking.'
So this mobo is designed for supporting at least one non standard operating procedure
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K8N Neo FSR won't boot.

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you did the big mistake if you used live update!!!
Bios flashing and live update:
look at this: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=84865.msg606175#msg606175
and this: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=14909.0
and this https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=69.0
something abou Bios recovery:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=71165.0
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=65951.0
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look at this: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=87562.0
and this: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=86772.0
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go to NEO1 and download 7030MOD.156

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... a MSI K8N Neo-FSR v2.0 (7030-20C, shipped with BIOS 5.10)
... a AMD Sempron 2800+ (Palomino, Step E6)
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- Stripped down to board + CPU + 1x RAM + GFX -> No Go (1 beep)
- Stripped down to board + CPU + 1x RAM -> No Go (1 beep)
- Stripped down to board + CPU -> No Go (1 beep)
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Quote from: syar2003 on 27-August-06, 20:29:14
This is the latest bios version of the 5X bios series (and should be a safe one since yours is currently running with 510).
http://download.msi.com.tw/support/bos_exe/mbd_bios/7030v54.zip
Don't know if it will add support for your cpu though.
Well ... as the changelog of the BIOS isn't exactly informative we would only know if I could get the board to POST so that I would be able to flash.
This however isn't a valid option as the board keeps on beeping upon power-on.
Quote from: syar2003 on 27-August-06, 20:29:14
Theese 7030 boards have become unbelievable hard to track as there are so many versions released now.
ref: http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=688
This page also lists another bios series to use 1X and 9X series
In addition it lists 2800 E6 Palermo as NONE (which means not verified/under testing)
Direct link to many 7030 boards bioses are also gone .
You're right --- I did some more investigation yesterday and became award of the "too many 7030's" issue. The one I'm referring to is actually the one you linked at (K8N Neo-FSR V2.0).
As the sticker on the flash reads v5.1 I assume the board is PCB rev. 1 ... as the 9.x BIOS seems to be for PCB v3.0 only.
Took a look through the CPU Support ... and ... WTH?
Only Turion CPUs and one A64 (step E6) is listed as compatible?
Guess we found the showstopper ... either the board or BIOS seems to dislike the E6 Sempron then. Hmm ... guess I either return the CPU or the board. It seems as getting a Turion would be the better choice as the shops in my area don't have anymore AGP S754 boards (and the same goes S939 boards). I only need a rig to play with server setup-scenarios of Ubuntu 64-Bit and no powerhorse for gaming or such.
Thanks for pointing me to the CPU support list ... I would have never dared to imagine that a board will only run with a limited set of AMD CPUs ...

K8N NEO-FSR No Post

I just bought a new K8N NEO-FSR to replace another MSI motherboard that I have been having trouble with and need to RMA. I have it on the bench, with a AMD Sempron 3300+ processor, 1 stick of Kingston memory 512mb 266mhz DDR, Nvidia Geforce 2 mx/mx 400 graphics card and Silencer 410 ATX PS.
>I just modified the LED lights below to make correct<
My problem is it will power up and stay powered up but won't post. I have no beeps. The LED will flash:
1st--number 3 green,
2nd--3 stays green with number 4
3rd--3 stays green with number 2
4th--Starts all over with same above
Then it just repeats, repeats, repeats the above unless I turn it off???
I have reseated everything several times. What's going on? Since 4 and 2 are last to green up before repeat, does that mean the Bios is bad on this board?

Quote from: kakarocht on 27-July-06, 12:32:58
Have you tried to changed other PSU? Seems like you've a weak PSU. IF you can borrowed a PSU from your friends or purchase it like OCZ, enermax or tagan.
PSU shouldn't be a problem here, since it's not a power hungry system.
check the post from built2last and identify at which stage the d-bracket stops. than you will have to check that code in the manual and tell us what it is.

K8N Neo FSR, Please Help a Newbie

Hey all,
I'm new to these forums and was wondering if I could get some help or advice. I currently own an athlon 64 3200+ newcastle with a K8N Neo FSR motherboard. I have heard that my mobo is basically a platinum minus the luxury of firewire ports, could I be correct about that? If so, I went to msi.com.tw website to update my drivers and could not help but notice that K8N Neo Platinum has two more updates that whats offered for my FSR, those being CoreCenter 1.7.0.0 and DigiCell 1.03.00.00. I find corecenter to be useful and am wondering will these two updated versions of the apps work with my FSR, and why would MSI not post the updates in the FSR section.
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MSI K8N Neo FSR Bios V1.2
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If you look at the prduct page for the K8N Neo FSR, and choose the BIOS link it brings you to page:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=571&kind=1
Which shows the BIOS' available for the K8N Neo FSR. Notice that 1.3 and 1.4 are available and that the K8N Neo FSR is considered to be a MS7030 which is the same model number of the K8n Neo Platinum. From this I surmise that you can use the same BIOS and drivers and all that the Platinum uses and everything should work fine.
RB

MOVED: K8N NEO-FSR - Can't find network unit?

This topic has been moved to AMD64 nVidia Based board.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=118264.0

Quote from: Stu on 09-July-08, 03:00:42
Check that onboard LAN is Enabled in BIOS (under Integrated Peripherals)
Was "Auto"
Quote from: HenryW on 09-July-08, 04:58:56
Looks like they're here for K8N Neo-FSR.
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=driver&maincat_no=1&prod_no=573
Will try this one, thanks! (Will post if it worked a bit later)
Umm, btw... Where should I extract the files?
Quote from: Fredrik Åsenius on 09-July-08, 05:07:48
Tjena Rikard! You have to describe your system in some detail.
Some famous culprits:
- Other PCI-cards.
- Poor or old Windows installation.
- Weak PSU.
- IRQ problem.
- A combination of all or any of above.
The network card is not a PCI-one, but integrated to the motherboard. Only card in the system is a PCI-E graphic.
Maybe poor or old windows, might try that...
Shouldn't be weak PSU, It's pretty good, I've been told.
IRQ?

S3 mode doesn't work fine on K8N Neo-fsr since overclocking, please help!

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Since I overclock HTT (everythings else have their own default values), S3 mode seems to work so crazy . After wake up from this usefull stop-grant standby mode, HTT is given back to its original speed, 200MHz, without notice (?!) .
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Could anybody give me a solution to achive higher speed by overclocking without giving up using S3?
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It's a bad new! I had bad feeling about DFI with the same problem, S3 mode resuming bring FSB back to df and even sometimes led the system to the ruin. But upgrading bios solved this issue. My old Abit did S3 mode fine. Now I have a new MSI and once again I must use teknophyle's way or slow hibernation instead.
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I got my mobo (K8N Neo-FSR) more than 6 months ago, and worked without any problems until today.
First of all, I made a BIOS update from 1.7 to 1.9 using MSI Live Update. No problems to report, the computer worked after that for several hours. Then I turned off the PC. And the next time I wanted to turn it on, it didn't boot.
Here's my D-Bracket message :
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The problem is that apparently it has absolutely nothing to do with my keyboard, as I tired changing it.
Clearing CMOS didn't help.
Any ideas how I can fix this? Or should I contact the support?

Before you answered, I tried to check the RAM. As a matter of fact by removing one of 3 memory sticks the computer worked. Later I figured out that if I lower the RAM frequency from 200 MHz to 166, all 3 sticks work perfectly well.
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I have tried all three dimm slots and they will all run my ddr400 sticks at 200. Is this just a display bug? Should I get a new bios? Is it the ram?
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