Keyword Organization

Hi I run LR on my desktop and laptop. I have a catalog stored on an external hard drive so I can access it from both machines. I recently organized my keywords (similiar to a directory with tiered entries)on my laptop. When I accessed the catalog from the desktop machine all the keyword organization was gone. I assumed that the keyword data was associated with a catalog and not the program however it doesn't appear that way. If the keyword data does not run with the catalog is there a simple way to sync that data on both machines? I am running 1.3.1

You can export your keyword hierarchy from one machine and import it to the other. RTFM for the settings you may want to use -- i.e. "export as LR hierarchy."

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  • A thought about keyword organization

    I don't know how many others have trouble keeping their keyword lists organized but until the developers make it easier to organize existing words into a hierarchy besides drag & drop I came up with a way to deal with new keywords being added, especially during the importing of new images.  I created a new keyword named "*unclassified" the leading asterisk keeps this word at the top of my keyword list.  By right clicking or (control+click) *unclassified and selecting "Put new keywords inside this keyword" all new keywords added, especially during import, will be contained inside *unclassified until I have time to organize them properly.  This at least to me is far better than having them scattered thoughout the whole alphabet.  So far after importing I have been able to just expand the keyword *unclassified and find all the new keywords in one place and distribute as neccesary.
    Larry

    I've been an exclusive Mac user since 1986. We have an all-mac household with two laptops and an imac. I help run an apple-driven research lab. I've been "approving" of the Mac for more than 20 years, with my ow dollars and my institution's dollars.
    One of the main reasons to go with apple has always been ease of use and reliability--as in the "i'm a Mac" ads Apple runs. The message is "buy a mac, and avoid the headaches." Apple notifies you via system update of a new release, and encourages you to download and install it via system update. I've done it dozens of times without incident.
    In this case, they released an update which has caused crucial aspects of the Macs funtionality--crucial for my job--to stop working, for me and apparently many other people. Now, what else should I use a support forum for, but to ask about the problem and try to find a solution? Should I post saying instead "I just want users to know that there is something wrong with me or my computer, because the new system update, which must be perfect because it came from apple,is not running perfectly
    OF COURSE it's possible that the probe lies with third party vendors--although in my case, the vendor is blaming apple, ad as far as I can tell they are right to. My audio nterface orked fne before the ugrade--if Apple is gng to release a udate tat canges something this dramatically, it should notify the vedors, no?
    But in the end it doesn't matter--Apple sells customers on a seamless, painless experience, on ease of use. When it doesn't deliver, no one should be surprised by irritated posts.

  • Batch-removing keywords

    For some reason, a bunch of photos in my iPhoto library (v '09) have ended up with a wrong keyword - probably about 200 photos or so. The keyword in question (the name of a lens) is used (correctly) for lots of photos in the library, but I need to remove it from the 200 photos where it shouldn't be. I've googled this several times, but is there a way to batch remove the keyword from several photos without deleting it altogether?
    I found a plugin called 'Keyword Manager', which looked useful, but is expensive. Is there a useful (and safe) free plugin I can use to manage keywords in iPhoto? Some aspects of keyword management are great (like being able to flick through photos and add/remove keywords with the keyboard), but on the whole, keywords don't seem to be iPhoto's biggest strength.
    Thanks in advance.

    I too find Keyword manager invaluable, and am disappointed to read that it is not working with iPhoto 9. I just sent feedback to Apple, saying that I won’t be upgrading until iP and KM work together. Don’t suppose it is likely that Apple will reach out to the Swedes who created KM, but it is possible. And the Swedes don’t have a forum or email addresses on their site. I’ve even googled their names in an effort to contact them with no success.
    Hierarchical keyword organization, and the ability to do searches for “A AND B BUT NOT C” is necessary for photos as for all other data!

  • Lightroom, Photoshop, RAW Presharpening, Noise Reduction Workflow Help

    I'm tying to determine a best practices route using Adobe Lightroom, Adobe Photoshop and Nik Software Sharpener and Dfine (Noise Management Software).
    I shoot only RAW with a Canon EOS 30D with good quality lenses.
    I import the RAW files from the CF card directly (DNG and save) into LR, add keywords, organize, etc.
    However, I am now at the point where I need to determine a sensible workflow that includes these steps:
    Import RAW into LR as DNG.
    Edit, as needed, in PS.
    Apply RAW Presharpening (as provided in Nik Sharpener).
    Manage Noise (with Nik Dfine (2.0 available in next 24 hours).
    Apply usage-based sharpening prior to printing or saving final file version.
    Maintain organization in LR.
    My original plan was:
    1. Import RAW in LR.
    2. Open in PS.
    3. Apply noise reduction.
    4. Apply RAW presharpening.
    5. Save (with new version being an "Edit" copy back in LR.
    6. Maintain organization in LR.
    I'm wondering, though, if I wouldn't be better off doing the basics to the files prior to LR import. Note that the Nik tools work in 16-bit mode.
    This is theoretically what I'm thinking, and would appreciate other user's input:
    1. Save RAW files to location on Mac.
    2. Apply Noise reduction to RAW files with Nik software within PS (perhaps automated, perhaps batched).
    3. Apply RAW presharpening to RAW files with Nik software within PS (perhaps automated, perhaps batched).
    4. Import noise- and presharpening-adjusted files into LR, with metadata additions, etc.
    5. Open files in PS as needed, with files becoming edit versions within LR.
    Any thoughts?

    To summarize, then:
    First time opening a RAW file from Lightroom, LR automatically creates a copy and appends "-Edit" to the filename. If it's a RAW file, only available option is the third option in the dialog box: "Edit a Copy with Lightroom Adjustments."
    Once opened in Photoshop, any number of adjustments can be made and saved. All adjustments are reflected in the -Edit copy when previewed in back in LR.
    If, later, I want to perform further PS edits on the -Edit version, I have 3 options as presented in the dialog box.
    1. "Edit Original (LR adjustments will not be visible)"
    2. "Edit a Copy (LR adjustments will not be visible)"
    3. "Edit a Copy with Lightroom Adjustments"
    Option 1 will open -Edit version #1 (but it will not show any changes made in LR to the -Edit file when opened in PS)
    Option 2 will create a copy of -Edit version #1 and open that new file, -Edit-2 (but it will not contain any changes made in LR to the -Edit file)
    Option 3 will create a copy of -Edit version #1 and open that new file, -Edit-2 and it will contain any changes made in LR to the -Edit file
    So, a typical workflow would be:
    1. Import RAW file in LR.
    2. Make adjustments in LR.
    3. If needed, open a copy (by default) in PS via LR (command-E).
    4. Adjust in PS, save.
    5. Adjusted file is stacked with original RAW file in LR.
    6A. Assuming no additional edits in LR, further PS adjustments can be made to -Edit version original, keeping just 1 stacked version in LR.
    6B. If additional adjustments are made to the saved -Edit version in LR, and further PS adjustments are needed, I must edit a copy of the -Edit file, ultimately resulting in a second stacked file.

  • New computer, new PSE7, where can I learn the basics or uploading & organizing?

    I have used PSE3 for years. With a new laptop in hand and PSE7 I have a chance at "doing it right".  With PSE7 how do I find basic tutorials on getting started?  On my previous computer and using PSE3 I had my images in both the PSE organizer and "My pictures".  I don't want to have multiple places storing images on my computer.   How do I go through the very basics of importing pictures and organizing them? Thanks!

    photodonna,
    The picture files are stored wherever you put them - e.g. MyPictures, Documents. The organizer does not store the pictures.
    You see thumbnails.
    There was published an excellent book, Organize Your Photos with Adobe Photoshop Elements 3, by Michael Slater. Unfortunately he has not seen fit to update this book, but the general principles should hold for the more recent version of Elements. One of the contributors to this forum refers to the book quite frequently. It is available for $2.75!
    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=organize +your+photos&x=17&y=14

  • Moving a LR Database from External to Laptop?

    I have a LR Database completely on an external HD, ie. the photos and LR database file are on the HD.  I'd like to move the LR database to my laptop and only store the original files on the external HD.  I'd like to be able to view, keyword, organize the images on my laptop even though I'm not connected to the original images.
    What's the best way to do this?  Can I simply copy all the files, other than the original images, from the ext to my laptop?  Anything I should be aware of?

    Just move (best copy it and when everything is working delete the lrcat on the external...or just leave it as a back up) the lrcat file (and the associated previews folder, unless you want to rebuild the previews). Double click on this to open. If it has lost track of the location of the folders then just right click on the highest level and point it to the folder location. You can work on the images without them being physically present, but you cannot export or write changes to the files unless the external disk is present.

  • To Terence Devlin, if he's still out there.....

    Hi there,
    sorry to use such a crass "bait".....but you responded to my 2nd "iPhoto reversion" thread by stating that you'd been thinking about it.
    Your most focused questions yet brought forth my most specific answers, then you went out of town, or perhaps resumed some actual life outside the forums !
    Anyway, here's the thread link >>>>
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=3627703#3627703
    I don't know if what happened can ever be determined, but i'm loathe to repeat hours of keyword organization aGaiN w/out trying first !
    ~~~=Dave

    Dave
    Well I cannot think of anything that changes my opinion as per the last post. I don't think that iPhoto over-wrote itself.
    Some general observations:
    Computers are remarkably thick. They do what you say, not what you think you said. Therefore it's important to protect yourself against various hardware or software failures and against yourself.
    1. KISS, you know what that means. Having two copies of the same folder inside a folder is asking for trouble. Especially when you start adding to one. Which one do I want? Which one did I use last time? It's very easy to make an error.
    Inside your Pictures have only a single copy of the iPhoto Library Folder. (Unless you're using two seperate libraries, in which case name the second something very different from the first. Library 1 and Library 2 are not different enough).
    There is really no reason to ever go inside the iPhoto Library Folder. Everything - and I mean everything - you need to do can be done via the iPhoto Window - and it's easier to do too. Plus: It is strongly advised that you do not move, change or in anyway alter things in the iPhoto Library Folder as this can cause the application to fail and even lead to data loss
    2. Back up. Have a rigid routine about back up. Back up the same things the same way each time. Set it up once, and invoke it the same way each time. All software is fun to play with, except Back Up software. It's dull, boring and set it to the task and let it finish.
    Other than that good luck.
    Regards
    TD

  • Are clip filenames accessible in iMovie 11?

    My past video editing has been in Final Cut Express and FCP 5. I'm playing with iMovie 11 to get some sense of the new video paradigm that Apple is adopting, and have some questions about the way iMovie handles clips. I don't see my clip filenames anywhere in the event browser, and can't find any way to access them.  I've got a lot of video I'd like to import into iMovie and manage there, and being able to see the filenames is important to me. Is there a way to turn them on in iMovie, or am I just out of luck?
    If I move my iMovie 11 library to a different drive can I just point iMovie to the new drive and retain the existing event and keyword organization, or does it need to be organized again from scratch? And if I do import my video library into iMovie, organizing it into events, assigning keywords, etc., and later decide to get FCPX, will that organization carry over into FCPX or will it need to be redone?
    Ralph

    iMovie uses a visual editing paradigm that is based on a copy and paste desktop metaphor, as opposed to the old FCP7 and FCE which provided edit decision lists and a scotch tape and razor blade metaphor. By this I mean that iMovie enforces you to copy and paste a logical clip. In older iMovie versions and legacy FCP, you could set an In point independent of setting an Out point. (razor blade).
    So there is no list of clips in iMovie 11. If you click VIEW/PLAYHEAD INFORMATION, you will see the date and time of the footage as you skim. If you right-click on a clip in a project or an event, you can select REVEAL IN FINDER and you will see the clip name. iMovie interprets the clip name from most cameras to get the date and time metadata, so if you change the clip name, it loses the metadata. Interestingly, in FCPX, you can still see clip names and see a list of clips, and even rename clips if you want.
    Your question about moving the iMovie library to a different drive is a little complicated. For iMovie 11, if you have imported EVENTS, and have never used them in a PROJECT, you can easily move the Event folder on your internal drive to an external drive in the FINDER. The external drive must be formatted as Mac OS Extended (journaled) a.k.a. HFS+.  Firewire and USB will both work fine. (Except if you are importing DV from a tape based camera - then you must have firewire, but once it is imported, USB is fine.) If you move it manually in the Finder, you must move it to the iMovie Events folder at the top level of the drive. Any other place, iMovie will not see it.
    It gets more complicated if you have used the Event footage in a Project. In this case, you can still move it to the external drive, but you must do the move within iMovie. An iMovie project does not contain any actual footage. It references the footage that you imported into an Event folder. So a project consists of a list of hexadcimal instructions containing the paths to the even clips, the in and out points, paths to photos, instructions for titles, cropping, transitions, paths to music, etc.  If you move your Event folder outside of iMovie, these paths in the project will be orphaned.
    To move an Event within iMovie, go to the Event Library List view. Click VIEW/EVENTS BY DISK, and you should see all your properly formatted disks in the library. Hold down the Command Key while dragging the small icon for your Event to the small icon for the Disk in the Event Library List. If you do not hold down the Command Key, it will COPY not MOVE.   You can move PROJECT in the same way in the Project Library List. If you move within iMovie, all project linkages are preserved.
    The question about moving to FCX is interesting. You can move your iMovie projects into FCP X very easily. In fact you can leave them intact, and FCP will create a new Event folder that references the physical clips in the iMovie Event folder (but generates new thumbnail files, render files, etc.) This means you can use your Event files in both iMovie and FCPX without doubling the space required. If you have imported DV for example, this works great. Even if you have imported AVCHD, which iMovie transcodes to Apple Intermediate Codec, this works fine.
    However, FCPX gives you access to a superior intermediate codec called ProRes 422 which generally retains all the quality of your clips and uses a 4:2:2 color space (as opposed to AIC with a 4:2:0) color space. This will not buy you much with DV, which is already a full i-frame codec. But for AVCHD, you should get a better result if you import into FCPX in ProRes rather than AIC.  
    If I was going to edit an existing iMovie Project in FCPX, I would either just edit the AIC, or transcode the AIC into ProRes, and then do my edits. However, if I was going to do a project from scratch in FCPX, I would go back to my archive copies of the AVCHD files and import them directly into ProRes 422.
    I am not sure if the import to FCP X will preserve your keywords. It might, since FCP X has a similar function, but I would test it first. For my purposes, I have found that keywords generally slow me down, but for a more complex application than mine, they could be important. I am not the one to ask on that.  I did check FCP X Help, and there was no mention of importing iMovie Keywords in the Help files.
    I am still learning FCPX so others may have a better idea.
    Hope that helps.

  • Is there a way to create new keywords that are NOT subcategories of other keywords in PSE Organizer?

    I would like to create a new keyword in the Organizer that is not a subcategory of OTHER.
    Specifically I would like to create the keyword PETS, which could in turn have subcategories of different pets.
    Currently the only way I can do this is to create PETS as a subcategory of OTHER which I would prefer not to do.
    If this can be done, please advise me (in detail) how this can be done.
    I am using PSE13 with Windows 8.1 (64-bit) as my OS.
    Thank you, in advance, for your assistance.

    Hi,
    Have you tried selecting New Category from the drop down list?
    Brian

  • LR keyword search (coming from PSE Organizer 9)

    I am using LR 4.1 RC2.  This morning using LR I upgraded my PSE Organizer 9 catalog.  It has about 50k photos with keywords and star ratings.  It seems like the upgrade worked because I can now see all my photos in LR and they have the keywords and star ratings.  Hurray!  I am having some trouble  figuring out how to do keyword searches in LR though so I hope someone can help.
    In Organizer there are several ways to do keyword searchs:
    1.  Use the Keyword Tags panel and click on one or multiple keywords.  Organizer will then display only the photos that have all of the keywords, i.e., it uses AND.  This is very easy and is great for finding things very quickly when using one or more keywords.
    2.  Use Find > By Details (Metadata) which allows searching by multiple keywords and the choice of AND or OR.  You can also combine the keyword search with other metadata so that, for example, you can find all Bird photos taken in Florida using a Canon 7D + 100-400mm at ISO 400 in April 2011 that have 3 or more stars.  I use this option to search fairly often.
    3.  Use the Search bar and type in search expressions using NOT, AND, and OR.  I occasionally use this for complicated searches that #2 can't handle.  This is a pain in the butt to use since you must type everything out, but when #1 or #2 can't do it (which is rare) it is great to have this option too.
    Several months ago I read on the PSE forum a thread about using Organizer and an Adobe developer recommended upgrading to LR since it was more flexible and meant for professionals and serious amateurs.  Therefore even though I have read the LR help info and can't find how to do sophisticated searches I am sure it is possible and I just haven't found it yet.  Here is what I have found so far:
    1.  Use the Keyword List panel where I can select only one keyword.
    2.  Use the Library Filter bar where I can do a ctrl-click on multiple keywords, but this results in an OR instead of AND.  In other words, if I click on Birds and then ctrl-click on Florida I get all bird photos and all Florida photos (the union, not the intersection).  This is probably almost never what a person wants.
    I hope someone can tell me or point me to documentation so that I can at least do as much as the amateur Organizer can do.  Thank you!

    John, thanks for the reply.  Yes, I am discovering that the amateur Organizer has much better searching capability than the professional Lightroom. I have already mentioned in my post the flexibility and power and Organizer is not even as good as some other programs.  I had spent time investigating LR, but mostly raw conversion and non-destructive editing.  I had, I think naturally, assumed that LR's database functions would be at least as good as the cheap Organizer.  I never dreamt that they would not be as good or as easy to use.  I sometimes wonder what happens in corporations when they seem to forget their own past and come out with new stuff that is a step or two backwards compared to their older, lower end stuff.  Oh well.
    Thank you very much for the tip about having more than one instance of keywords in the filter bar.  That helps.
    After I posted I discovered using Smart Collections and that helps a bit too.  It is sort of a cutdown, less user friendly version of the Find By Details (Metadata) function in Organizer.  It also means that for just a one time search I would have to create a smart collection and then delete it.  What's with that, I wonder?  Of course, if you often want to do that same search then it is good (Organizer allows you to save the search too), but most of the time I just do it one time.  Oh well.
    I looked at the Any Tag plugin and also the Any Filter plugin (same website) and I might download them to try out.
    What I would like for Adobe to do is have their LR developers (probably a more prestigious development team in the company) talk to their Organizer developers (maybe a less prestigious development team) so that the LR developers can learn a bit about this.  Yes, I have been a software developer for many years so I do understand a bit about development organizations.  LR and PS are standard bearing products so their teams probably are held in higher esteem.  Time to be humble and talk to other people though, IMO.
    If any LR developers happen to read this then please know that I mean no offense.  But, please, at least, take a look at Organizer and see if you can come up with something simpler that requires less typing of multiple long keywords and more powerful searching using various types of metadata.  I am not saying Organizer is the best out there, but it is much better than LR in this case.

  • Sharing PSE7 Organizer keywords with Bridge?

    I want to share my existing PSE7 Organizer keywords with Bridge. I searched the forums and found an some answers to use PSE7's "File/Write Keyword Tag and Properties Info to Photo" menu option. I did some tests with that option, and it appears to only do what I'll refer to as "additive writes," meaning it will add keywords in PSE7 Organizer for a particular photo, but it will not remove any keywords which are presently in the photo file but not in Organizer's informaton for the same photo file.
    I'm guessing this is the case because PSE7 Organizer cannot assume the keyboard already in the file originally came from Organizer itself, or that the user (regardless of where an existing keyword came from) wants to remove a keyword if it's not in Organizer for the same file. It would be nice if there were a preferences option which one could select such as "Replace all keywords when writing to file" so that a user like myself could make Organizer's keywords the main keywords.
    Does anyone happen to know if I understand this correctly, or is there a way to remove a PSE7 Organizer-written keyword from a file (based on its non-existence in PSE7 Organizer for the same file)?
    If there is no way around this, I'm wondering if it may be better to do things the Bridge-way (which seems more like the general standard) since it seems to always keep the current info in the file, so the state is always with the file itself. Even if some features are missing, it may be better than dealing with this sort of PSE7-only feature. Any comments on this would be great to hear.
    Thanks for any insight on this,
    Tom

    Okay, that makes sense on the Albums. I wasn't aware that Albums were ordered.
    I was using Bridge some more after my post yesterday, and I was seeing that with PSE7, both Albums and Keyword items seem more readily accessible regardless of location of the items (photo files) because there isn't an extensive file system search required since the DB provides a quick search (assuming first-searches and no pre-existing caching in Bridge).
    I started testing Collections with Bridge, and realized that it was sort-of doing that. This is another aspect of Bridge which is sort of a "db" aspect of Bridge in that it requires the browser to persist data seperate from the photo file. .
    What can be a little frustrating about any browser-persisted informaton (such as that for Collections) is to not find anything in the docs about how to ensure one gets a good backup of that info. PSE7 does a great job of providing a feature to do just that. Recall this is one thing I really liked about PSE7 when I was unaware of the benefits of Bridge's "minimalist db" approach (where a "db" in Bridge is anything persisted by itself such as Collections).
    The "how to" backup app-persisted information (aside from docs a user saves, where the user knows the location) is a must for any pro-am or pro person, if not an end user. People don't want information that is key to something they're building over time to be persisted in some mysterious unknown location. I couldn't find what I wanted in Bridge docs, so I did my own hunting, and found Bridge Collection information hiding in "%APPDATA%\Adobe\Bridge CS4\Collections" (i.e., c:\Users\<user_name>\Roaming\Adobe\Bridge CS4\Collections" on my laptop) in files named "<collection_name>.filelist". But even with that info, I, as a user, would still have to test to ensure I could get a backup good enough for disaster recovery / restoration. I'm a relatively technical user so I cannot imagine what "Dad" or "Mom" would do. This sort of thing is bothersome only because it's remedied with at least a small paragraph in the docs. What would it take to say "Backing Up Bridge Information: If you have a backup program which backs up the "%APPDATA%\Adobe\Bridge CS4" you will have all necessary data to restore the information that Bridge maintains. You must ensure you backup your photo files..." etc. etc. Without that, I have to do a bunch of hunting and testing. 
    All that said, I see how Collections, maintained by Bridge, offer some of that PSE7 power where you don't have to search for files in various locations to find what is already noted in a central Bridge file or "db" such as a Collection for which Bridge has a list of files in the Collection itself. (If Collections could contain other Collections, that would be a nice touch. I didn't see that ability.)
    What I still like about Bridge's approach is that while Albums don't exist, and while Collections are hierarchical, there's a feeling that Bridge is not taking things over where you are forced to use that app. It persists some items relating to its organizational features, but keeps the rest of the info right in the photo file. Still a nice balance. Another nice thing about this minimalist approach is that there's no importing per se. Everything is browseable/maintainable since the file system is the photo db.
    All that said, I can see where PSE7 does things for the non-power user such that they can just use, say, an Album, which has a familiar name, and behaves like an Album with ordering and whatnot. A user like me doesn't need that since I can use tools to create an Album like effect, so the Bridge approach wins since I can fend for myself in areas were I don't see PSE7 to hand hold.

  • Organizer crash @ keyword save

    why does organizer crash when i try to save keyword tags? Elements 9 Organizer, Mac OS 10.7.4

    Hi,
    Please go to Help > Updates and install Photoshop Elements 12.1 update.
    Let us know if this resolves your issue.
    Thanks,
    Anwesh

  • Unable to add Keyword Tags in Organizer PSE 9

    I am beyond frustrated at this point.  I have never run across a more buggy program than PSE9 (or 8 for that matter).  I am particularly having trouble with the organizer in PSE 9.  I have spent that last day or so tagging a catalogue of about 2000 photos when suddenly the organizer froze up.  I killed it and restarted.  Then it wouldn't even load.  So I thought to load another catalogue to see if that worked.  It loaded up just fine.  I switched to the catalogue I had had the problem with and PSE pretty much shut my computer down at that point.  So, I restarted the computer, loaded up the organizer and actually got it to open the catalogue.  I ran a repair on it.  It said that it had fixed some errors.  Great, I thought, everything is fine.  Well, no, it wasn't.  Now whenever I attempt to add a keyword tag, delete a keyword tag, or even add a caption, the organizer just gives me an error.  It is only happening on this particular catalogue.  I have repaired it, optimized it, and even regenerated the thumbnails.  I always get an error when I try to edit anything.  I can view the pictures just fine.  I can open them up from the organizer into the editor just fine.  I just can't delete, add captions or keyword tags at this point.  If I have lost the all the work I did last night and today tagging these photos, then I am going to be mighty mad.  If anyone has any suggestions, then please let me know.  I don't want to think that I have wasted time, and most of all, money on this program.  Thanks.

    I am beyond frustrated at this point.  I have never run across a more buggy program than PSE9 (or 8 for that matter).  I am particularly having trouble with the organizer in PSE 9.  I have spent that last day or so tagging a catalogue of about 2000 photos when suddenly the organizer froze up.  I killed it and restarted.  Then it wouldn't even load.  So I thought to load another catalogue to see if that worked.  It loaded up just fine.  I switched to the catalogue I had had the problem with and PSE pretty much shut my computer down at that point.  So, I restarted the computer, loaded up the organizer and actually got it to open the catalogue.  I ran a repair on it.  It said that it had fixed some errors.  Great, I thought, everything is fine.  Well, no, it wasn't.  Now whenever I attempt to add a keyword tag, delete a keyword tag, or even add a caption, the organizer just gives me an error.  It is only happening on this particular catalogue.  I have repaired it, optimized it, and even regenerated the thumbnails.  I always get an error when I try to edit anything.  I can view the pictures just fine.  I can open them up from the organizer into the editor just fine.  I just can't delete, add captions or keyword tags at this point.  If I have lost the all the work I did last night and today tagging these photos, then I am going to be mighty mad.  If anyone has any suggestions, then please let me know.  I don't want to think that I have wasted time, and most of all, money on this program.  Thanks.

  • Finding images with keyword tags in PE 12 Organizer

    I am experiencing difficulties while finding images with keyword tags.
    I am using the Organizer of Photoshop Element 12 (French version) and I think I follow the procedure described in “ADOBE ELEMENTS ORGANIZER Help and tutorials” (page 168 in the English version or alternatively 150 in the French one), i.e. :
    In the Keyword Tags panel, I click the ">" symbol of the keyword of which I want to know the relevant images
    Whatever the search option (Select either Hide Best Match Results Show/Hide Close Match Results, or Show/Hide Results That Do Not Match), I am not able to select and show only the Best Match Results.
    Please note also that the Tip
    To automatically display close matches after a search, choose Edit > Preferences > General, or Adobe Elements Organizer 11 > Preferences > General, and select Show Closely Matching Sets For Searches, and then click OK.
    does not seem to work with Adobe Elements Organizer 12

    Thks
    You are right, my problem is to select only the close matches.
    Based on your comment, I am afraid it’s one of the recurring problem in PE whatever the version (PE11 or PE12)
    De : MichelBParis 
    Envoyé : vendredi 30 mai 2014 08:40
    À : Michel ROUSSEAU
    Objet :  Finding images with keyword tags in PE 12 Organizer
    Finding images with keyword tags in PE 12 Organizer
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  • Organizer 9 often gets error adding keyword

    I spent more than a week evaluating Organizer 9 for my use by playing with a test catalog with several raw photos from various cameras I have.  I tried everything I could think of and posted here a few times asking questions.  Everything seemed to be working well.   I also saw posts saying some people had 100k photos in Organizer.  All looked good.  I wanted to be fairly confident before importing my 50k out-of-camera original photos and then spending a lot of time on adding keywords and star ratings since I didn't want to waste all that time and work if Organizer would not be a good fit for what I want or didn't work well.  All signals were go.
    A few days ago I got started on the real catalog.  I turned off all the analyze stuff since I don't need it and it was likely to just slow the computer down.  I imported about 50k photos.  I then started adding keywords.  I first made a pass through all photos and assigned a keyword for each photo that had the country or U.S. state where the photo was taken.  No problems.
    I then started another pass through all the photos adding one or two more keywords to some of the photos.  I have been having problems with this though.  I often, but not always, get a pop-up window with a message from Organizer saying it got an error adding a keyword to a photo.  I click Okay and then Organizer hangs for several seconds and down at the bottom left of the screen it says Searching.  Finally Organizer comes back, but now the thumbnail view doesn't show all the photos -- it shows only a subset.  I then click Show all and then spend a lot of time scrolling into the 50k photos and looking for where I left off before the error.  I then try to assign the keyword to the photo again and get the error again.  I click okay again.  This time it also says Searching for a few seconds, but when Organizer is ready again this time the thumbnail view has not changed so that is good.  I then add the keyword and this time it works.  Whenever I get the error the exact same sequence happens exactly like this with no variations:
    1.  Error adding keyword
    2.  Long wait with Searching shown in the lower left
    3.  Thumbnail view changes
    4.  I click on Show all and scroll down to where I left off
    5.  Again try to assign the keyword
    6,  Error adding keyword again
    7.  Wait with Searching shown in the lower left
    8.  This time thumbnail view didn't get changed
    9.  Try to assign keyword again and this time it succeeds
    By the way, the error window I get says:  Error Applying Keyword Tag(s).  It always is this same sequence.  Much of the time I get no errors and then I will get one and go through the above sequence.  I often can do a few more with no error and then an error again.  It seems to be random.  Sometimes it might happen 2 or 3 times in a row and sometimes it takes a long time until it happens again.
    I repaired the catalog, but it said there were no errors.  I also optimized the catalog.  Remember that I have just imported the photos and have been adding keywords.  I have not actually made much use of the catalog.  I have not been deleting or anything else.  Just import and add keywords.
    Any ideas?  Thanks!

    photodrawken wrote:
    Where are the photos stored?
    Where is the catalog located?
    Are you running Windows?
    How many drives on your computer, and how much free space on each?
    Which drive are you using for your PSE scratch disk?
    Ken, thanks for your reply.
    The photos are on a 1tb USB 2.0 external hd.  The catalog is on my computer local C: drive.  I am running Win7 64-bit.  The C: drive has 151gb free.  The external hd has 245gb free.  The PSE scratch disk is the default since I haven't changed anything, I suppose that would be the C: drive.
    Adding keywords to all photos on the first round worked without problem.  Adding one or two additional keywords to some of the photos on my second round works most of the time, but maybe about 20% of the time I get the error.  The error always goes away after the above lengthy, very annoying sequence though and I can continue.

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