Labor Hours in PM Datasources

Hello Gurus,
which of the datasources in PM gives me the Labor information like hours worked, Planned hours, Total Labor Hours etc.
Help is highly appreciated
Thanks in advance. Full points to correct answers

Look at cube 0PM_C04 (Maintenance Orders - Operations) which contains information on the planned and actual work for operations in maintenance orders, loaded from 2LIS_17_OPERATION (Maintenance orders - operations).

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