Layout Manger. Why?

Okay, here is my problem:
I am creating a GUI that pretty much represents a piece of paper with columns of data. To recreate this in Java I want to use a layout manager that doesn't mess with my sizing. I want X panel to go in Y location and I don't want it to stretch it out, but ALL the layout mangers that I use mess with my formats.
I figured out Absolute positioning and that has been my god send since it does EXACTLY what I want it to do, that is put panel X in poistion Y and not friggen mess with it.
Now the problem, I want to use scrollbars on the overall main panel that holds all the sub-panels but the Scrollbars just don't work. Period. It makes no sense to me.
How can I implement a absolute position layoutManger abd get scrollbars to work? Has anyone written something like this, and if so can they point me to the code?
And please don't point me to some tutorial on layout managers. I have read enough of them, and they are totally useless for me. I don't need some manager to keep track of my panel sizes. I want them all to be fix sized in fix locations, but no manager seems to be able to do that. When I use any of the managers they just ignore any line of code where I set the size or location of a panel. What ends up happening is my panels get stretched and repositioned all over the place. It drives me nuts.
If Java doesn't have a layout manager that implements Absolute positioning, then why don't they have a straight forward layout manager that implements relative positioning? Sheesh.

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All i needed to do was set the preferred size
correctly. Problem solved. I didn't expect to read so
many java fan-boy responses, cause ya know, Java just
couldn't be over-engineered at all... no never...
What a Prig you are! Why are you looking at Java? If you want to use Java in earnest then you need to look at the libraries and understand how to use them. It just does not make sence to try to force Swing or any other library into the mould of your previous experience.
I program in Java, C++, Perl and Python. My favourite is C++ but I don't try to use the Java libraries as if they are C++ libraries. I try to under the libraries so that I can use them effectively.
Central to Swing (and AWT) is the concept of a layout manager. A layout manager allows you as a programmer to get the computer to layout your GUI components according to some simple to understand rules. Once you understand the rules you can save a lot of time and code. Time spent in understanding the layout managers is well spent and, if you continue with Swing, will be more than offset by the time saved in developing applications.
Your initial approach of "... tell me how to solve my problems but don't tell me to look at the tutorials ..." was bound to get the reaction it did. Your question has been asked so many times before in this forum and it is obvious that you didn't do a search before posting.
Bog off the the Basic forum.
Roger

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