Live5.1: Is surround or 4 speakers from line-in VCR poss., surround ev

I have finally got two pairs of powered speakers to plug into my Li've5. X-Gamer boxed card I got a few years back. When I play mp3s or CDs music from the pc CD player both the line out and rear outs play, both the same stereo i guess, when I turn both pairs on. I don't know whethere or not it has mattered what Sounds, settings in Windows XP I have as speakers type set to in Control Panel. I have NO creative software installed. Just what windows update gave me when it recognized my card. I am using WMP9. My CD player is a Pioneer DVD-6 non-tray (so it has no digital output), but I do have the CD audio line connected to the Li've 5. card, as well as the pci slot. I have never tried a surround DVD movie so I don't know if 4 speakers is giving me surround or not. I have a cheesy DVD or two, and I am getting sound from 4 speakers, but I'm not sure if it is in "simulated surround" or dolby surround (or a simulated 4 speaker version of dolby surround).
There is a line-in on the back of the sound card, and I have JUST plugged in a hi-fi VCR. With both pairs of speakers on, I get no rear sound channel. Therefore, definetly no 5.:
Questions
: Is it possible to get rear channels as well from line in (dual stereo) as above from line-in?
2: Is it possible to get a surround-loaded stereo signal from line-in (VCR) decoded into both the line outs and rear outs, as either Dolby SURROUND , or simulated SURROUND?
3: Is it possible to create Surround effect out of mp3s or pc CD music in 4 speakers?
4: Do I need to install the creative software?

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