Make to order---subcontracting

Dear Expert,
Please help me on below scenario.
I raised special sales order through MTO process. After that i run MRP.
In this Process, one Subcontracting Process comes throgh Production Planning.
I have converted PR to Subcontract PO. The Account assignment category is M & item Category is L In this process my BOM is explode Automatically as per Production Planning. I maintained also sales order ref & Item No in the PO item details window.
I Saved & approve PO.
While Doing MB1B 541 MVT, i got below error.
Purchase order 4500000070 has no items
I have maintained everything in PO.
Please help me. Any settings require for this?

Hi,
Go to bellow steps :
=>Create material in T.code MM01
=> Create BOM in T.code CS01
=> Have routing in T.code CA01
=>Create sale order in T.code VA01
=> MRP Run in T.code MD50
=> Check planned orders in T.code MD04
=>Convert component planned order to PR
=>Convert component PR into PO for external procurement in T.code ME21N
=>Create subcontract PO with reference to PR via T.code ME21N
=>Transfer goods to subcontractor with movement type 311E
=>Create excise challan T.code J1IFQ
=>Receive the goods from subcontractor via T.code MIGO
=> Execute J1IFQ for reconciliation
=> Update the challan via T.code J1IF13
=>Convert finished material planned order to production order
=>Issue to production with movement type 261 via T.code MB1B
=> Confirm production order via T.code CO15
=>Receive goods against production order
=>Order settlement for production order in T.code KO88
=>Create delivery in VL01N
=> Create billing document in T.code VF01 / VF04
Go to bellow links
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/en/4d/2b90b043ad11d189410000e829fbbd/content.htm
http://www.sap-img.com/materials/sub-contracting-cycle.htm
Thanks,
Raviteja

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