Managing N+1 Landscape for Upgrade Project

Hello - I'm currently involved in a project that is rolling out a n+1 landscape. The landscape will look like this:
MNT (maintenance): DEV --> QAS --> PRD
PRJ (project): DEV --> QAS
The project landscape is going to be upgraded to newer enhancement packs and Netweaver versions. As an example, the maintenance landscape might be on Netweaver 7.30 and the project landscape on 7.40 (not real, just an example). In a situation like this, how are ABAP code and config changes managed or retrofitted across the two landscapes?
I've been investigating Solution Manager Retrofit as a possible tool to help, but I don't think it will work in this scenario. Can anyone help provide some high level guidance?

Hi Ethan,
I've been investigating Solution Manager Retrofit as a possible tool to help, but I don't think it will work in this scenario. Can anyone help provide some high level guidance?
You can manually track the changes which are being imported into Production system of Maintenance Landscape. Perform manual imports into Project landscape development system.
Perform upgrade impact analysis + unit testing on Development system of Project Landscape.
Perform SIT on QAS system of Project landscape
Alternate solution.
If you have CHARM implemented into your landscape , you can use critical object identification using solman. This will automatically highlight which objects needs attention.
Refer blogs http://scn.sap.com/people/dolores.correa/blog/2009/08/27/change-request-management-scenario-retrofit-functionality
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Deepak Kori

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> 1. Is figure 5.3 in page 165 correct?
> I think it should be
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>
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> "During this phase, you continue dual maintenance of the development
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