Material Determination

Hi Gurus,
I hav a product A, but i have done materail determination for product A with B, so when a customer comes and places an order for product A then the system automatically takes the product B, but there is few stock of product A, how can i sale the stock of product A.
Thanks and Regards
SJ

Hi SJ,
Like Rajan mentioned what you need to do is little more setup. Create a new substitution reason code using OVRQ. There in config you need to set the outcome to be "B" and leave all other entries as BLANK. Now goto VB11 and create and record with following details.
Substitution reason code = 0010 (lets say this is the new one you have created).
Material Entered = A
Material = A
Double click on the line item, you will go into line item details. There you mention B as the second option and mark the MRP indicator for what ever material you want to raise MRP if no stock is available in A as well as B.

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Please consider the two issues separately. Don't club both the issues. If you have records for both material determination and free goods.,
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I have a doubt in Material Determination.
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Thank you for the reply. I understood the subsitute reason.
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Part XYZ is a sales BOM which contains 3 components: A, B, and C. Component B has a material determination (product substitution/interchange) with material B1, B2 or B3.
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We are able to explode the BOM to its components but unable to generate the product interchanges for component B in the sales order.
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SAP Note 486680
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Edited by: HJMY on Sep 20, 2011 1:24 PM

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Hi SD gurus,
I have a client requirement as below:
We create order via BAPI. Data comes from ext call center system.
Whenever Matnr A is entered in Sales order & it is not available then Matnr B should come.
1: I know that we can handle this in Material Determination. I did req. config in IMG
2: I have created VB11 stating that MATNR A should be substituted by Matnr B. I have ticked the MRP ind in VB11 as well.
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When I enter MATNR A in sales order, & assuming its not available then, MATNR B will come in Sales order.
In my case it is happening. But whenever this happens what should be the item category of the MATNR A & MATNR B?
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The system runs several checks on on each possible substitute, for example to determine if the customer would accept the product based on the product attributes and current stock availability.The system checks substitute materials until the order quantity is satisfied, or until there are no more possible substitutes.
When a valid alternative is found, the system creates a sub-item for it, using the item category that you have defined for the main material in Customizing.
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the price for the order is determined based on the price condition records for the main item only. You have deactivated pricing for the sub-item category, so the system does not determine a price for it. Since both the main item and the sub-item categories are relevant for billing, the prices (even if there is no price) are copied to the invoice and billed accordingly.
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