Mega 180 and ATI All in Wonder Cards

My Asus A7N8X Deluxe mobo fried on me last night and now I'm looking to use the parts I have in another PC. I have an All in Wonder Ati Radeon 9600 Pro video card that I would use as a TV tuner. Paring this with a AMD Athlon XP 2100 CPU, 512 Kingson PC2700 RAM, 30 gig/250 gig WD HDDs, Sony DVD Burner, would I be asking for problems?

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how can you tell?
look on the sticker, it will say either "Kingston ValueRAM", or the part number begins 'KVR...'
as far as i know, the only way to disable dual channel is to use one stick of RAM, as Mega 180 only has two slots

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Mega 180 and ATI AIW

Hi!
Found some posts on the subject of getting an ATI All-In-Wonder card to work with a Mega 180 system, but didn't find anyone with a solution.
Would it be possible to use my old ATI Radeon 9200 AIW card with the Mega 180?
Currently i use the onboard VGA and the 8606-40 TV card and everything has been working pretty much perfectly all the way from first installing Windows XP.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
- Niclas

I'm using an AIW 9000 with no problems, except it was a git to actually get in the slot; took over an hour of careful manipulation and general frustration.

Mega 180 and ATI trouble

Cheers,
Im having some trouble with my new Mega 180:
Im trying to get it working with an ATI All-In-Wonder Pro 128, however after inserting the card im unable to get any output from any vga plug (both the ATI and the onboard) its just completely black, no bios memory count, nothing. Still WinXP boots properly, there is no lockup of the machine, just no vga output.
First i thought it was a faulty ATI card, but it works fine in other machines, then i thought it might be a faulty agp slot on the 180, but other agp cards work fine.
My setup is as follows:
Mega 180
Athlon 2600+ Barton
512 Meg (2x256) Corsair XMS2700
ATI AIW Pro 128
Has anyone else been down this road and know why it doesnt work / how to fix it / why it will never work etc?
cheers,
Eivind Nag

Hmm...
I Guess i had the same problem, only i didn't take the AGP-card out to setup the BIOS: I Used the BIOS reset jumper, and with this i could boot with the Radeon 9600PRO with picture until i resetted or restarted the system. (could also install the catalyst drivers with no problem). But if you don't set the bios after you booted, the system CAN reset or turned on and off.
This trick worked every time when i resetted the BIOS. So it's clearly a problem in the BIOS. There would be a New BIOS version some weeks ago, but it seems like it's gonna take a while. We'll just have to wait......
Greetingz,
ShadowGuy

KT4AV-L / ATI All-In-Wonder 9200 Problems

Hi All,
A few months back I purchased an ATI All-In-Wonder 9200 AGP video card for my system. I had a flawless installation of this card and it worked fine until about 2 days ago when, all of a sudden, it stopped working. Keep in mind, this is part of a dual monitor system -- I also have an old ATI XPERT 128 running on the PCI bus to support a second monitor.
So, I opened the case, took the card out, re-inserted it. Problem still continues, this card will not work. Windows reports it as a CODE 12 error in my hardware profile, saying that the card doesn't have enough resources to start.
The really weird thing is that this probelm sees to be feeding of of each other on the two different video cards. With just the 9200 installed, D-Bracket reports a red light on LED #1 and will not post... if it's just the XPERT, it shows red on 2 and 4 and will not post... but with both cards in the system, I get functionality out of just the XPERT, system posts, and runs like normal, but only the XPERT will work. These cards do work separately in my old MB.
Power supply specs are as follows (although I am about 99% sure this has nothing to do with my problem):
ANTEC P4 ATX12V rated as 3.3-28 5-38 12-16
Other info as follows:
MSI KT4AV-L MB
256MB Centon DDR2700
ATI All-In-Wonder 9200 AGP 4x 128mb
ATI XPERT 128 PCI 16mb
(no other add-on cards)
Any input on this would be greatly appreciated, I'm pulling my hair out over this.
Thanks!

Sorry, I'll clarify... the cards do work separately in my old mobo, I can plug in either one and get normal post and boot... neither card works on its own in the KT4AV. If I plug in both cards I get output on the XPERT only, but the XPERT won't work without the AIW on the KT4AV. The AIW won't function at all on the new mobo, either as a single video card or with both plugged in.
And what I mean by no other add-ons, I mean no other cards. I'll post a full system configuration:
KT4AV-L Mobo
AMD Athlon XP 2200+
256 MB Centon DDR2700 RAM
Maxtor 2B020H1 20 Meg HD
LG 16x10x40 CD-RW
Generic 45x CDROM
ATI AIW 9200 AGP Video
ATI XPERT 128 PCI Video
ANTEC P4 ATX12V 400 Watt
Rated: 3.3@28A, 5@38A, 12@16A
I did try unplugging my CD drives the other day to see if it would make a difference and it didn't change anything. It seems to me that it could be a GART issue but I'm not sure since I don't know too much about how that works. I don't do any gaming on this machine, I've had it configured up for home recording studio use, hence why the two monitors comes in handy.

No sound using ATI all in wonder Multimedia Cen

I am having a problem with sound, When using ATI's Multimedia Center version 9.2, and an Audigy 2 sound card, I do not get any sound when I use the video capture capabilities. The manual statues that I should use "line In" as the default audio source, but "Line In' does not come up on the drop down list. Sound works for everything else, just not MMC.

Jeremy, the ATI support says there is an incompatibility between Audigy and All in Wonder cards. It has a link to the creative labs web site and mentions that there is a custom driver that rectifies this problem. it mentions getting driver 250 or higher.
Can you let me know what the part number is for the driver mentioned in this section?
This the section from their website
Using the ATI ALL-IN-WONDER? with Creative's Audigy family of Cards The Creative Lab's Audigy family of sound cards has architectural differences from earlier SoundBlaster products in order to provide enhanced audio quality. These changes have an impact on how the ATI Multimedia Center? works when an ATI ALL-IN-WONDER? is used with an Audigy card. To partially address these issues, Creative has made available a special version of their drivers, which allows the ATI Multimedia Center? to function correctly. These drivers are version 250 (or later) of the Audigy drivers. Please make sure you are using the correct drivers.

Has anyone used an ATI All in Wonder 128 Pro with the 845E Max? Are they compatible?

I have an 845 E Max and an old ATI All In Wonder Pro 128. The ATI is a Rage Pro 128 with a Universal Connector Type and AGP Spec of 2X. MSI says it will work, but I fear conflicts with a vid card that has 3.3v spec for a 1X.
Anyone have any advice?
Anyone have any recommended power supplies for the 845E Max?

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=313
Support AGP 4x slot (1.5V only)
i would say you cannotr use it based on what you have said

MS-6309 V2.x problems with ATI-All in Wonder Pro AGP 2.X

I have a MS-6309 V2.x and are trying to have my ATI-All in Wonder Pro AGP 2.X working on this Mainboard ! The computer crash after loging and restarts imediately ! this repeats to the invinity ! I have the latest bios update ! Some one with the same problem please tell me about your work arround !

Ok ! I have figured out the problem largely because of your aid on this forum ! Thanks to all !
The problem is the compatibility with the CPU's !!!
Well here are all the information found on the CPU's
I have a : Pentium III costa rica
850/256/100/1.7v
3045A586-1116 SL4CC
The Pentium III is the big problem It crash all the time on all systems !
and a : Celeron
900/128/100/1.75v
Q151A233-0248 SL5LX
The celeron crash when it whant's on Windows and crash from time to time when I use certain Software on Linux system
One question does your Bios Upgrades include the microcode for these CPU or is it the Operating system (Under Windows) update.sys that does the updates !
It's not the ram responsible for the crashes but the CPU'S !

Mega 180 and PC Alert 4

Hello chaps,
Some time ago I posted a thread regarding my relatively new Mega 180 and it's annoying habit of shutting down then only restarting after a few hours unplugged from the mains. There were some helpful responses but unfortunately the problem was never resolved - it just meant I had to shutdown the PC more often.
However, recently the problem is getting worse. I have installed PC Alert 4, but I have no idea what the readings mean. There are four screens which appear to be showing voltages or something, all are in green except for the second one which is frequently red.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?!
Any suggestions gratefully received.
Mega 180, 2.8 Ghz, 512 RAM, XP Pro

to determine if the PSU is the problem, remove the cover from your Mega and disconnect all the power connectors to the mega PSU. get a regular ATX PSU (with enough juice of course), sit it next to the mega, and connect the ATX PSU connectors to the Mega (drives, mobo etc). connect the power plug to the ATX PSU and boot up.
note that the LCD display won't function, and you won't get any sound either, but this is only while the mega PSU is not being used.
use your mega as normal, and see if the problem reoccurs. if you get the same problems, then you know its not the PSU. if it all behaves well, then you have to consider a replacement PSU
as i see it you have two choices: you can either scour ebay for a cheap faulty unit being sold for spares (but make sure the PSU is okay before buying!). or you could contact your nearest MSI office and see if they will sell you one
How to contact MSI.
if you're feeling adventurous, you could always check out some other posts here, where users have done away with the mega PSU altogether, and had a regular ATX type sat outside the case as an "external" PSU...

Mega 180 and MS MCE 2005

Does anyone know if the mega 180 is compatible with Microsoft Media Centre Edition 2005 as I have loaded the operating system on to the computer but when I open media centre I get an error message stating the video card and/ or drivers are not compatible with MCE 2005, but when you ok this message media centre continues to work ok. This is very annoying if I have to ok this error each time I open the application or is there some drivers out there that could fix this?

Quote from: Tav on 02-March-05, 18:52:34
Thanks very much guys, I have now got MCE working ok. Unfortunately I have recently purchased the MSI TV tuner and found out a couple of ago that it wouldn't work with MCE, can you recommend a TV tuner that would work with the Mega 180 and MCE?
Yep, I use the Hauppauge PVR-500. It's a dual tuner card that runs about 160-190 on the net. It's got a built in splitter on the card that allows you to have one coax cable running into the card and still record two separate shows.
The only caveat I have is that if you are outputting from a Cable Box to the tuner card, the PVR-500 will not be able to use both tuners. I have my TV set up so that the coax is split coming out of the wall. One cable goes to the PVR-500, which allows me to record up to two shows. The other cable goes to my cable box, which then runs to a separate input on the TV. Complicated, and I'm not sure I've even got it optimized correctly.
Matt

Mega 180 and 9700 Pro: What kind of cooler can i fit on it?

Hi, i'm almosteady to order my MSI Mega 180. When i get it i want to put my 9700 pro into it, it's now working in a water cooled system, and i'm not really impressed with the Hercules cooler it came with. So what i'm asking is: what cooler can i fit on the 9700 pro and it will still fit in the Mega 180?
Some interesting options include:
Arctic VGA Silencer
Zalman ZM80C-HP VGA Heatpipe Cooler
ZM80A-HP
I'm thinking that the zalman's are to big for the case (but i'm not sure), i don't even know if the arctic is going to fit...
I don't want to overclock my system or videocard, so no excessive cooling is required.

Hi,
I'm not familiar with the dimensions of the 9700 Pro, but I think it is going to be a VERY tight fit. Be aware that you have limited space and you're probably going to (partly) block the exhaust from the CPU cooler. Last but not least, the power cables originate from the PSU on the same side as the AGP slot is located.
Perhaps you can read some of the reviews of the Mega 180 on the Net (search Google for "mega 180" and "review") and have a closer look at the pictures that are made from the internals.
Greetz,
JaDi.

Mega 180 and Graphics Cards

Hi i just ordered an mega 180 im just wondering on the best graphics card i can put into this and also if i do will i lose my pci slot to put in the tv tunning card?

Quote from: Nulll on 06-June-05, 21:21:30
Well i have.
I have the 9800 pro and the msi has NOT ENOUGH POWER. Sometimes the screen stays black but everything else loads great (you can hear windows tune). Turning the msi off and on untill you see the bootscreen works. Sometimes i have to boot 5 time in order to get a picture. I think the power core must be replaced for a more powerfull one. Don't know which one is best for this (suggestions welcome)
Sec; The card blocks the airflow, boosting the temp in the msi.
I really regret buying this msi 180, it just can't take the heat and high end video cards :(
It's wrong, sorry but the famous black screen at the windows load has nothing to see with the power. Check the forum and let's have a look at the anakin(?) thread. I got a 6800@GT, no power problem, and I used to have the black screen when I didn't have any additional graphic card. For the temp you'll have some modding but eveything's OK (my temp are max with dm3 or hl2 Proc: 60° Sys: 42° GC°: 65°).
Keep trying, mega is cool.

MEGA 180 and Radeon 9800 Pro/XT

Haven't posted in a while, just wanted to spread a little good. Having a MEGA 180 is a little limiting with power supply and space issues etc but i've got a cracking setup working here :-)
I bought the MSI RX9800PRO TD128, despite a 300watt power supply warning for the card it works perfectly in the MEGA, but the good news doesn't stop there, the graphics chip is not a standard 9800PRO R350 core, for some reason it has the R360 core from the 9800XT, overclocking is a breeze with the ATI Tool. It comes default with a 378 core - 338 mem setting, I have saved a profile in ATI Tool with the XT settings of 412 core - 365 mem and they work a treat in UT, Q3, Tomb AOD and i've even stressed the card in 3DMark05 for quite some time and it just works, I dare say I could push it even higher but I'm happy getting XT performance for PRO money :-)
Overclocker New Zealand have even managed to get it up to an insane 479 core - 391.5 mem see http://www.overclockers.co.nz/ocnz/review.php?id=04vga00r9800promsi00000r9800pro0105
There is also another great thread all about this card at http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showindex.php?t=118366&highlight=rx9800
The ATI Tool is quite good, i've even created a profile for 2D that is underclocked for when I'm in windows so it keeps my system a little cooler with the XT settings set to kick in when I start up 3D, coupled with a Barton 2800+, 1Gb of PC2700 and the 120Gb Maxtor with 8Mb of cache and it is all just working well together, Win XP Pro with SP2 is rock solid, well it is for me anyway, :-)
Couple of things to know.
Win XP finds the RX as an XT, so no need to try and flash the bios, it isn't an XT PCB anyway, just an XT core.
As there is no heat sensor for the core ATIs Overdrive isn't available but you can get the ATI Tool from loads of places on the net, here is a link anyway http://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/
happy at last :-)
J.

Dont know if this will help but I had the same problem awhile back with an Asus A7N8X deluxe that I built for a friend. Sometimes it would initiate the monitor and others it would not. This drove me nuts for about a week, I tried everything that I could think of. This is what I did to remedy the situation somewhat.
Go to the ATI website and download the catalyst removal software and also download the Catalyst 3.7 driver from there "older" drivers page.
Now boot into windows and remove the ATI drivers and control panel from add remove programs, DO NOT REBOOT!
Run the ATI driver removal tool.
Shut down the machine, REMOVE THE POWER CORD,clear cmos, set the jumper for CPU fsb to 100mhz (safemode) and REMOVE your ram. Boot the machine, you will get a series of beeps indicating that the memory is not installed. Shut the machine down, REMOVE THE POWER CORD, Put the memory back in, reset the CPU fsb jumper to its normal position, and clear Cmos again. (this series of actions also solved my no display issue on my Mega 180 using the onboard graphics).
Now boot into bios and set it up the way you want then boot into windows and when windows tells you that it has found new hardware do not let it automatically install anything (cancel it). Now run the 3.7 catalyst setup and follow the instructions.
I am not sure why this worked to solve the issue but it did for me on both my Mega and the above mentioned system. I think there may be some odd conflict with the Nforce chipset and the ATI drivers and or Card bios.
Why it worked on my Mega is a mystery, I am using the onboard graphics and would have the system turn on with fans working and all but would have no display out.

Mega 180 and Media Center III----looks perfect----is it??

I DON'T want to shell out $1000 for cheap HP/Compaq or whatever which includes Media Center Edition
But I DO like the look and features of Microsoft's Media Center Edition.
In the Manual for the MEGA 180-----Media Center III looks perfect for what I want.
Am thinking of a Mega 180 using onboard video, the MSI TV/Tuner Card, onboard SoundStorm---and a cheap Barton. I already have 2 x 512 of NVidia recommended PC2700 RAM for use with the onboard and almost all other parts----but by the time I'm done----I'd be shelling out around $400
The manual makes everything look good "on paper"----but I see from this forum their are "issues".
Did/does MSI support the 651 model well?? Bios updates----utility and driver updates??
This thing looks like a tremendous alternative to a Microsoft Media Center Edition overpriced machine. And I'm willing to do driver updates and Bios updates----heck, I love a challenge----I just don't like a product that lies about what it can really do.
Worth it----or should I pass.....
Thanks-----John

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Originally posted by johnrr6
Did you try the settings button in MC III that says "Enable Fullscreen"
That may not be it----it may just be a TV setting----but it's the only thing I can think if.
Good Luck,
John
I believe that function is only for viewing the videos from the preview window to fullscreen. I don't think it enables/disables "stretch mode" but i'll try that tonight.
if it works i'll post it here. if not ... well .... same thing i guess

Mega 180 and MSI FX5200-TD128

Hi all and thanks in advance for any help.
I just bought MEGA 180 a some more things, here is my current config:
Box - Mega 180
CPU - Barton 2500+
Memory - 2x256 - 400Mhz from Phoenix Technologies
Disk - 120 Gigs HD - Seagate Ultraquiet
DVD Rom - Leadtek Silent
PVR PCI Card - PVR 350 from Hauppage
Everything works fine.
Now I have an MSI FX5200-TD128 Graphics Card and decided to try it out.
With some difficulty I managed to put it in but now .... the computer simply does not start .. well sort off.
Once I hit the power on button three things can happen:
* Computer starts but the display is not on, and eventually it locks.
* Computer starts with some gittery on the screen and it locks
* Computer starts, I hit the del key but I can't even get into the BIOS.
In either case the OS never boots.
My question is,
* Do I need to set something on the BIOS before I install the card such as, increase the AGP voltage or something like that?
* Can it be that my memory is just BAD for it?
* Can it be that my AGP slot is just BAD?
* Do I need to setup the BIOS prior to the operation?
* Is this just that my MSI card is too power hungry, which I think it strange as it is from MSI, its the latest model of its type?
Please help me, and again thanks in advance.
Nuno
PS: By the way, my BIOS is V3.30 downloaded two days ago from Live Update

Hi,
Managed to get it working. Here is what I did in case anyone has the same problem as mine.
1) Take a memory DIMM out, a let one just stay there. This will get you a memory total of 256 Mgs and your system will now boot.
2) Get to the BIOS settings.
3) Choose the option concerning DIMM's and performance (third option I think).
4) In the third option select Manual. This will allow you to set specific options for the memory.
5) Select Auto in the option concerning CPU / DIMM transfer rating.
6) Select High Performance in the 7th or 8th option concerning your DIMM settings.
7) Save the BIOS
8) Put the DIMM back in
9) Start your system and voila it works.
Best regards,
Nuno

Need help connecting Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro to ATI All-in-wonder 9600XT to get sound from tv tu

Recently purchased an Audigy 2 ZS?Platinum?Pro sound card. I need help figuring out how to get sound when I us the tv tuner for my?All-In-Wonder?9600XT video card. The audio output on the video card needs an audio input to connect on the sound card, but this sound card?does not appear have one.
Does anyone know how I can connect the video card to sound card so I get sound when using tv tuner? Where is the micro In line?I have it on the front panel on the external unit!!? But I would don't use this In line for this application!On my old sound card SB Li've! Platinum, I had a line at the rear PCI card (Line In & Micro Line In) and I had two others Line In on the Front Panel, It's the best, but this old card work only with Win 98 or Win 2000.... ? My new system have WinXP Pro!!!!I buy a new SB card (Audigy 2 ZS Platinum pro), but How to get sound fromo the TV tuner and what's the best setup for my micro (for MSN, Skype) ??Help will be greatly appreciated.

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