Milestone based billing in OM-AR or PA - Help needed
Hello,
need your valuable suggestion to identify the best approach, including modules, for the following business scenario with Minimum Customization.
Business A directly receives orders/ contracts from customers. Business A does not manufacture any product. Instead they cut POs to different suppliers (against the items in the order) and the suppliers in-turn directly ships the material to customers. Business A directly invoice customers and also pay the suppliers.
Key points to note:
- Oracle E-Biz 11.5.10.2
- Customer billing will be milestone based e.g. 20% down payment at order booking, 40% prior to shipment and 40% upon material delivery etc of the total Order value.
- There may be one billing milestone for material acceptance by the customer
Possible solution approaches:
==================
We were thinking about OM, PO, INV (virtual), AR, AP etc with standard Drop Ship process but as we know, milestone based billing cannot be done thru normal OM-AR process.
If we use PA then another approach can be to disable interface transaction from OM to AR and then use customization:
i) In PA billing extension called by Generate Draft Invoice (GDI) process to look at eligible orders (in OM) for billing with appropriate amount
OR
ii) Create an interface to raise billing events in PA (using Event API) by looking at at eligible orders (in OM) for billing with appropriate amount.
However, using PA additionally along with OM will have following disadvantages:
a) Good amount of customizations for needed integrations
b) PA/ Projects will be added as an additional module without much benefit to the above mentioned business model.
Can we use AR in a different way here by disabiling the OM-AR interface transaction but using the OM details for multiple AR invoices thru some short customization. Or for that matter any other approach outside normal OM-AR process.
Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated.
Best Begards
Hello,
need your valuable suggestion to identify the best approach, including modules, for the following business scenario with Minimum Customization.
Business A directly receives orders/ contracts from customers. Business A does not manufacture any product. Instead they cut POs to different suppliers (against the items in the order) and the suppliers in-turn directly ships the material to customers. Business A directly invoice customers and also pay the suppliers.
Key points to note:
- Oracle E-Biz 11.5.10.2
- Customer billing will be milestone based e.g. 20% down payment at order booking, 40% prior to shipment and 40% upon material delivery etc of the total Order value.
- There may be one billing milestone for material acceptance by the customer
Possible solution approaches:
==================
We were thinking about OM, PO, INV (virtual), AR, AP etc with standard Drop Ship process but as we know, milestone based billing cannot be done thru normal OM-AR process.
If we use PA then another approach can be to disable interface transaction from OM to AR and then use customization:
i) In PA billing extension called by Generate Draft Invoice (GDI) process to look at eligible orders (in OM) for billing with appropriate amount
OR
ii) Create an interface to raise billing events in PA (using Event API) by looking at at eligible orders (in OM) for billing with appropriate amount.
However, using PA additionally along with OM will have following disadvantages:
a) Good amount of customizations for needed integrations
b) PA/ Projects will be added as an additional module without much benefit to the above mentioned business model.
Can we use AR in a different way here by disabiling the OM-AR interface transaction but using the OM details for multiple AR invoices thru some short customization. Or for that matter any other approach outside normal OM-AR process.
Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated.
Best Begards
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"joeq" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> for the sake of conversation, accept the premise. or, if
you prefer,
> change the
> numbers of hours to twenty (them) and five (you).
>
>
>
quote:
Originally posted by:
Newsgroup User
> > to use your example (but with larger numbers), i
ask you to do a job
> > that
> > would take an experienced professional (who
charges, say $50.00 an hour)
> > twenty
> > hours but, because of your greater experience and
knowledge, it takes
> > you
> > two.
>
> This is a completely unrealistic example. There would be
no such job. Or
> perhaps you meant to use "inexperienced"? In that case,
it's not my model
> that breaks, it's the "inexperienced professional's".
>
> At any rate, I charge for my time, not by some arbitrary
standard. That
> way, I can treat people equally.
>
> --
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> Adobe Community Expert
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> "joeq" <[email protected]> wrote in
message
> news:[email protected]...
> > you're missing the point.
> >
> > to use your example (but with larger numbers), i
ask you to do a job
> > that
> > would take an experienced professional (who
charges, say $50.00 an hour)
> > twenty
> > hours but, because of your greater experience and
knowledge, it takes
> > you
> > two.
> >
> > now how do you charge?
> >
> >
> >
quote:
Originally posted by:
Newsgroup User
> > > but the reality is that really can't.
> >
> > Sure it can. If you ask me to do a job that takes
10 minutes, I bill
> > you
> > for 30 minutes. If you ask me to do a job that
takes me 2 hours, I bill
> > you
> > for 2 hours. Why doesn't that work?
> >
> > --
> > Murray --- ICQ 71997575
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so!)
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> >
> >
> > "joeq" <[email protected]> wrote
in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > doesn't really answer the question though...
> > >
> > > you're obviously very experienced and can do
something in a fraction
> > > of
> > > the
> > > time it takes someone else. your fees should
reflect that ? but the
> > > reality is
> > > that really can't.
> > >
> > >
quote:
Originally posted by:
Newsgroup User
> > > My clients benefit from my "vast experience".
I also have a minimum
> > > time
> > > increment of 30 minutes....
> > >
> > > --
> > > Murray --- ICQ 71997575
> > > Adobe Community Expert
> > > (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you
do so!)
> > > ==================
> > >
http://www.projectseven.com/go
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> > >
http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs,
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> > > ==================
> > >
> > >
> > > "joeq" <[email protected]>
wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > >a follow-up question that i think helps
make my point about the
> > > >difficulties of
> > > > hourly billing:
> > > >
> > > > in hourly billing, how do account for the
fact that ? because of
> > > > your
> > > > vast
> > > > experience ? you can do something in a
tenth of the time that it
> > > > takes
> > > > an
> > > > experience beginner... who charges, for
example, $50.00 an hour?
> > > > would
> > > > your
> > > > clients not fall out of their respective
chairs if you told them you
> > > > want
> > > > $500.00 an hour? or $1,000.00???
> > > >
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