Modeling ProComp in ESR

Hi,
I am new to modeling in ESR and would like to ask a basic question. When I am building a ProComp model, I select a Business Object and subsequently click on the "Operation" icon to model a service operation. At this time, two options appear.
They are:
1. "<BO> uses/is realized by Operation"
2. "Operation uses/is realized by <BO>"
I notice that if option 1 is chosen, the arrow is pointed to Operation and the opposite if option 2 is chosen. But what is the difference? This rather simple question bothers me because both options are used in the tutorials I have but without further explanation and I could not find any information about that in Internet or books too.
Hope that somebody could clarify this.
Thanks,
Joon Meng

Hi,
Naming service as Inbound and outbound is different from different perspective. In SAP SOA and Middleware, outbound service used as consumer (proxy) and inbound as provider.
Take following example for clear understanding:
Application A is sending some information to Application B (do not think as service at this moment).
Case1:
From perspective of A: information is outbound as it is going out.
From perspective of B: information is inbound as it is coming in.
Case2:
If I am using any middleware X and information is going from A to X to B then.
From perspective of X information coming from A is inbound and information is goint to B is outbound (This is used by most middleware such as Tibco etc to describe flow but NOT by SAP).
Case3:
If X is PI system then SAP perspective prefer to use application perspective then middleware perspective thats why information coming to X will be considered outbound (Not inbound) and information going to B will be considered as Inbound (Not outbound)
Conslusion: Inbound and Oubound is considered from application perspective, so:
Inbound service: information always first comes to application and then based on usage response is send (or not send) (ABAP Service).
Outbound service: Informa always go out from application and may be response will come based on usage (ABAP Proxies.)
I hope it is clear from above examples.
>Does this mean that the inbound service interface modeled in ESR is for the provider proxy generation whereas outbound for client proxy?
Yes.
Regards,
Gourav

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