Monitoring audio on capture

Folks
New 'puter, so I can get back into video, in fact I'm working on a project that was shelved 5 years ago. I have 11 concert tapes to edit, so being able to select clips based on audio quality is important.
I have a Sony TRV240 digicam connected by firewire, and I have the analog stereo/video cable plugged in, then with a tricky series of adaptors, I feed the audio into the G5 audio in, expecting to monitor the sound on playback from the camera on my spiffy Monsoons. Not so. Headphones work, but I have no volume control. Audio input is set in system prefs to audio in, not mic. The audio meters tell me that the audio is happeneing.
What am I doing wrong?
Dave Tinker

David
Nothing. FCE does not give you audio during capture because the firewire cable is active and effectively mutes the Mac speakers. Monitor the sound from the camera with earphones or set up your speakers from the camera if you like. The capture window is only a basic idea of what is being sent to the Mac. Some latency with sound is there if you could hear it and the picture is dodgey anyway. The capture window image does not represent the true quality of the DV footage.
Al

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Message was edited by: Keith R Thompson

Keith,
For whatever reason (perhaps the intense processor needs) HDV does not allow you to monitor your audio during capture. The computer just will not do it. What I have done, if I really want to hear what's happening durning capture, is plug my speakers into the headphone jack of my XL H1. Due to the processing that's going on, the audio "lags" behind the video by a couple of seconds.
I'm pretty sure this is not a setup problem, but just a limitation due to the nature of your format.
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YES - This is the way FinalCut Express AND Pro works !
If You need the audio - Then You connect a small set of speakers to Your miniDV Camera
(headphone out)
alt. if no phono-out on Camera is to connect a small TV to the Camera analog way
and here You can both see and hear during Capture
(BTW - Connecting a small TV (or if §§§§§ is no problem a reference monitor
§5-10,000 or even more) is a Very good way of keeping Quality control during
editing process. Eg Transitions, audio levels, color fidelity etc. I do and the
ref monitor are well compared to my final DVDs.)
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(quoted below, submitted last January by Studio X)
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I have a few questions about monitoring audio in my fcp/stp projects.
Currently, I have a g5 quad that has an optical toslink output, that I use to connect to the optical in on a good denon home theater receiver (avr 3801). This is how i output my mac's audio. I have two B&W bookshelf speakers as my monitor speakers.
Is this acceptable to use to monitor my sound for my editing projects? I am not doing much music work, mostly just voice track cleanup on my video projects.
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Giving advice such as saying <Your B & W speakers might be good enough for the job, their lineage is as a studio monitor for the BBC. If you paid over $500/pr, and they sound good, then they're probably good enough. You can use them with a mixer hooked-up to your Mac and outputted to the Denon like in your current set-up> is so cool, if that was the case would,nt you think for a quick minute they would be recomended by pro or advertise as nearfield monitor and not hi-fi.
<conveinient to buy active monitors.> that ain't the case active monitors are made for monitor audio interms of listening to frequency that would be imposible to hear on hi-fi speakers which is the opposite of hi-fi which is more colour-full and does'nt give the true sound, also because its self-power and easy to plug and play.
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