MSI K8N NEO4-F... Is This a Good Main Board???

   Hello! i was thinking about this main board and i don't know about to buy it,because it isn't too expensive and it's very good,
this is my pc:
Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L120M0 120GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive
MSI RX800XL-VT2D256E Radeon X800XL 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card
Kingston ValueRAM 512MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200)
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor
What do you say???? Is this nForce chipset better than an ATI or a VIA of the same kind of board???. Thanks!!! see ya!   

I like both VIA and nVidia chipsets. I am a little hesitant to try ATI until they mature, although I believe they got a good start. ATI's been draggin' a little, but they are working on a new chipset to compete with nVidia. I have built seven nForce boards, and all have been extremely smooth. Not one problem with any of them.

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  • MSI K8N neo4 -F User comments PLS help ....is it a good buy?

    As above
    Can those MSI K8N neo4 -F give me comments of the board. Did you all regert buying this mobo
    What are the good pros and cons
    HAve been hearing some complains about HSY in the MOBO is a bit too noisy, is it true ?...
    How does it comapres to gigabyte K8NF-9 Which cost $195 here in sg
    MSI K8N neo4 -F cost about $240
    So which more worth to get ?
    Thanks

    LOL Didn't you know that no overclocker is ever happy with any parts??? They never allow them to acheive the ultimate 300% overclock they are always after... I have yet to meet an overclocker that actually liked their parts and peices. It is usually the MB they blaim no matter what other junk they have in the system. It is just the way of the world. Read any tech forum and look at who is doing the screaming and why.
    Simply put at normal speeds things work well for most anyone if they have stuff set up properly. Once you enter the dark hallways of the overclocker though you are more often on your own and you better know what you are doing or have a fat wallot. Overclockers tend to change parts out more often than Bill Gates changes his socks.
    That is not to say that it isn't fun to push the envelope a bit or shoot for that next level.  Follow the dark side and you can acheive greatness or end in smoking rubble. Just remember though that is more on you to acheive that goal than on any parts maker and you will be set into the right mindset.

  • MSI K8N NEO4 F support for 90nm, Venice

    MSI K8N NEO4 F. Does this board support the cpu:
    AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 2.2GHz Socket 939, 512KB, 90nm, Venice
    Can not find it in the cpu compabillity list.
    Anyone who have tried it ?

    From Anandtec Site posting 5/22/2005:
    "On another side note, we have heard several reports about 90nm Athlon 64 processors performing poorly in MSI’s K8N Neo4 product line. We will have more details for you in the near future, but if you are in between motherboards and you are also planning a 90nm purchase, you may want to stay away from the K8N until we can either verify or dispute those K8N reports. Our guess is that some new BIOSes should fix the performance issues. "
    Link: http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.aspx?i=2425&p=4

  • MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI sound needs -5V; newest Antec 550W has no -5V rail

    I came within a whisker of ordering a non-returnable  3700 Venice, MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI mobo and an upgraded Power Supply, Antec's newest 550W PS the TP2-550 EPS12V ($117).  This has dual 2x24pin 12V 19A rails and is touted as the new V2.0 EPS12V/ATX12v compatible power supply for high performance SLI systems.  By accident I came across a page at MSI for this mobo
    http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mai...ail.php?UID=641
    At the end is this warning:  MSI Reminds You...
    • For this model, you must use a Power Supply which has a -5V pin supply. Also, the users manual which I downloaded on Pg 2-10 says the same thing
    The above Antec PS specs do not  show a -5V rail, nor does an Enermax 600W I looked at.  The V2.0 specs for ATX12v which added 2x24pin 12V rails dropped -5V rail from the spec and it appears MSI is not conforming to the spec (See Antec response at end) None of the web sites selling these PS & mobos contain any warning.  I vaguely recall from a forum a while back it may have something to do with the Soundblaster system in the mobo.
    http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=22551 (click specifications)
    Isn't this a major showstopper which is going to cause a lot of grief for those of us upgrading to SLI systems using this mobo and upgrading our PS to the newest & best power design?  We won't know the PS won't work until we build the system.
    Regards, Ron
    Antec reply to me:
    >>>>Thanks for the link. Since MSI's website does state the motherboard needs the -5v, the True550EPS12V will not work with this motherboard. The Standard (http://enhanceusa.com/documents/atx12v_v2.01.pdf) has removed the use for the -5v rail and it is no longer needed. MSI has not manufactured that motherboard to the Standard. Finding an ATX12V v2.0 power supply with the -5v might be hard to find. You should contact MSI for a compatibility list of power supplys that were tested to work with the K8N SLI Platinum.

    Quote from: ccve3 on 21-May-05, 07:27:40
    Wow!!  syar2003 thanks for that post.  I've spend an hour going through it &  fasteddies links.  Now I are a power expert.  The dual rail argument is enough for me to go back to the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI with one of the single rail PS -5V units listed by fasteddie. The only question left now refers to computerpro3  recommendation on ultra power supplies for SLI 
    >>I quite simply wouldn't dream of putting anything else in my machine. Keep in mind, this section is for 2x 6800 models, not the 6600's which most any good psu will handle (like Antec Neopower, ocz 520, etc). . Pc Power and Cooling 510 Deluxe SLI edition (refer to list)
    2. Zippy/Emacs 550-700w models
    3. OCZ 600w (personally I would get the pcp&c for the price, but it's been proven here, so I'll be fair...). 
    These are really high end, expensive and only 3-4 choices. Since I'm getting one 6800GT and eventually another & possibly eventually a 4800 X2, I was hoping the OCZ 520W would do it but computerpro3 says Powermaster 520 isn't good enough for SLI.  I found that there is an OCZ 600W ATX12 dual rail which surprisingly has a -5V rail needed for K8N Neo4 SLI Soundblaster.  Will this meet computerpro3's preference for a high end PS for SLI systems even though I'm losing the 1 rail advantage.  Maybe the 600 Watts just overwhelms the 1 rail/2 rail question.
    Thanks again for the teriffic help
    Regards, Ron
    Wondering what you settled on.  I got the Antec TP550 and it's flawless on the board.  I even have the older 20pin model which works perfectly (including sound).  If you really wanted what I would consider to be a top dog (pcpower and cooling), and find the -5v rail missing, all you have to do is place a phone order and request they add a -5v rail.  It's a minimal cost and a total solution for having everything.  Just my $0.02

  • MSI K8N Neo4 FI Compatible with AMD 3800+ X2?

    I just bought:
    MSI K8N Neo4 FI
    AMD Athlon 64 3800+ X2
    Gainwood 7800GT Golden Sample
    hec Pb-480PB 480W
    Problem is that i don't get a picture when i start the computer.
    Everything seems to work, all the cables are plugged in.
    The gfx has power from the cable.
    Can it be that the motherboard dosen't recognize the CPU, and that won't give my a picture?
    Help would be appreciated.

    That should be enough to start the computer. It has two +12V rails, which are of good enough ampage.
    Now it looks to me like it needs a newer BIOS version to recognise the CPU.
    See: http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=651&kind=1 I think this is your motherboard?!
    You'll need another A64 CPU to flash the BIOS though.
    Just to settle akhille's mind, you could also try a better PSU.

  • MSI K8N-Neo4 and PCI-E x4

    Hi Folks,
    I've got an MSI K8N-Neo4 (MS-7125) motherboard that I'm looking to add a RAID card to.  It's got a PCI-Express x4 slot on the board that I'd like to utilize.  However, I've seen some conflicting information regarding it's use.  In the manual on page 2-26 it states "PCI Express x4 Slot (Support PCI-E x2 device Only)".  However when I look at the webpage for the board at http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8N_Neo4_Platinum& it makes no mention of this limitation.
    The main reason why I'm wondering is because I'd like to add a HighPoint RocketRAID SATA raid controller to my system.  If the slot can handle x4 cards, then I'll purchase the 2310 model, which is an x4.  If it cannot, then I'll purchase the 2300, which is an x2 model.  I've seen some mentions of other people on the forums with K8N-Neo4 boards using the 2320 (an x4 card with 8 SATA ports instead of 4 on the 2310), but haven't seen what sort of bandwidth they're getting.  Are you actually able to get PCI-E x4 bandwidth out of this port?  Or will it downgrade it to PCI-E x2 or PCI-E x1 (the PCI-E spec says that when cards a plugged into a different size port they only need to be supported at x1)?  Or, and even better question, will it even work?
    Thanks for any help you can provide.

    Quote from: Bas on 09-July-06, 07:25:26
    Those are not different then from what's on the motherboard
    Want a real one? Look at this: >>Real one!<<
    That's real raid controller.....
    What you mention is just the same as the onboard stuff.
    As for the Linux raid stuff, I presume you mean the Linux Software raid, no those controllers aren't that good, but the High-points aren't that good either.
    Heck, they don't even have their own CPU or memory.....the one I showed you has and is WAY faster
    (PS. sample given is PCIx, won't fit your board, but that's a raid controller!)
    Okay, that still doesn't answer my question about the PCI-E slot.  You make a decent point, but I was more using the Highpoints as an example and because they came up in several searches of the forum.  For the sake of getting a real answer, lets assume it is a real RAID card, such as the PROMISE SuperTrak EX8350 RTL, which according to the Serial ATA on Linux page is a real raid card and all that.  Will it work in the PCI-E x4 slot on the MSI K8N-Neo4 Platinum or not?
    All I really want to know is if the slot can actually run a PCI-E x4 card or not.  The documentation contradicts itself.

  • No Post/Black Screen - MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum

    Hello,
    Here is my problem, I bought MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum motherboard and got
    - 3500+ cpu
    - CORSAIR XMS 1GB memory
    - PCI-E Leadtek 7800GT video card
    - Aspire 520Watt PSU
    I have put all of it together fine( I have put many systems for friends before) hooked all the power cables, case to mobo stuff, fans. Every time I turn it on fans go on, and lights go on but there is nothing on the screen as if no signal from video card to monitor, plus no error beeps which means cpu and memory is fine right. I have tried to just have memory, video card and nothing else hooked up, same result. I have tried another PSU, same result. Now to add to this, I had same problem with ABIT motherboard and another video card(same) which eliminates bad motherboard and bad video card, since both I have replaced except this time I got MSI mobo and not ABIT. I got same problem with all of it, nothing comes up, no post while fans spin when I turn it on etc... What could be the problem? memory? case? Any ideas?
    Please help me as I spent a lot of $ and time on this and had no signal to monitor so far. Thanks.

    As I said at this point I am trying to boot without any drives plugged in just to get a post and boot up but no go. So basically all my drives are unplugged and I cannot get it to work, I have tried different psu and same problem. I have tried another video card( I RMA this one and got another) it goes and snaps into PCI E slot all good, I have checked that many times. The only thing I can think of is memory at this point but this is brand new XM Corsiar memory and why wouldnt the motherboard beep ( i hoked speaker) if there was any error like that? I just dont get what is going on.
    I have no idea what bios version I have as I have been unable to check it, unless you want me to check the chip version on chipset?

  • Considering the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum

    Hello,
        I'm currently deciding whether or not to get the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum, and I just have a few questions.
    1) How beginner friendly is it?
    2) Does it take a lot of work to make it run or can you just plug everything up and the system will run fast and stable?
    3) How stable is this board? I've heard that MSI boards were unstable, so how stable is this specific board?
    4) I know this board is good at gaming, but how about office work like using Microsoft Word, Excel, Powerpoint, etc.?
    5) I plan to keep this system for at least four years, will this motherboard give a lot of trouble? And how reliable is it?
    5) Can ya'll share your experiences with MSI?
    Thanks for any help.

    Quote from: ExpertNovice on 30-June-05, 03:43:00
    Is the MSI website http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8N_Neo4_Platinum/SLI&class=mb where MSI names the board as "K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI" incorrect?  It wouldn't be the first time a typographical error occurred.
    If not then the OP may simply have not had enough room to enter a complete description.
    No it is not incorrect, I am staring at the box mine came in.  It says Platinum Edition-K8N Neo4/SLI, there is also a the non platinum version K8N Neo4/SLI and the non-SLI K8N Neo 4
    anyway,
    Quote
    Maybe I'll get the Platinum SLI edition instead so that I can upgrade later to SLI without having to buy a new card. If I do get the SLI I'll use a single card for now and put in the second card later when it's needed. Does the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI have any problems with running a single video card in non-SLI mode? And I've noticed that the SLI edition doesn't have a x1 PCIe or x4 PCIe slot, is sacraficing these two slots (as well as a regular PCI slot) worth it for SLI capabilities?
    to answer that question, no it does not have problems running a single card in non SLI mode.  It runs like a champ.  I pernonally would not use the extra PCI slots, so to me SLI outweighs scarificing the extra PICe slots.

  • MSI K8N Neo4-F Problems

    I'm on my very first build and I'm running into problems.  When I power up, all the fans spin up properly and the D-Link LED's go through the usual settings but it gets stuck on the combination that the manual translates into "Initializing Floppy Drive Controller - This will initializing Floppy Drive and controller."  The D-Link LED's just hang there and I've left it alone for a couple minutes and it still wouldn't budge.  On the screen, sometimes I can see the POST message and other times I see nothing at all on the screen from the various times I've restarted the computer.  Any idea why it's hanging on this certain combination and not booting me to the BIOS setup screens?  These are my system specs...thanks:
    MSI K8N Neo4-F Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard
    AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice
    ZALMAN CNPS7000B-AlCu Heatsink
    Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-380 ATX12V 380W Power Supply
    OCZ Performance Series 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200)
    Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive
    Leadtek 6600GT

    I take that into consideration! But as hardware goes, no two are exactly the same. But let's not focus on that, as I believe it could be problems elsewhere.
    Posted by: Talannon
    Hi!
    First, the problem is I made this computer for a friend and when I boot the computer it always freeze at startup. I hear the normal bip when you start the computer then I see the first screen where it says to hit del to enter SETUP but it freeze there. I can't even go into BIOS. I have 2x512 MB in dual channel and when I remove one I can usually be able to go into the bios, then once there I check if everything is there by default ( I already reset cmos ) and it looks good then I reboot and it freeze again. I really don't know what to do...
    But I will tell you the whole story. First I get the computer and at first boot I get no video signal. I see that I forgot to put the spacer between MoBo and the case. Then I fix that, comp boot I go into bios. I made another error by setting the FSB speed at 400 mhz because I read that it was going at 400 (I forgot that it was 200 x 2) so I reboot and I get nothing. I reset the cmos by pressing the button then i can get into bios.
    From there I changed the boot order and I make it so MSI doesn't show his logo when you boot but you get the POST instead. I exit and save then I start getting that problem... Since then I am not able to go into BIOS unless I play with the memory module. Another thing is when I can't get into BIOS I watch the 4 LEDs on the USB thing you add to the MoBo (definition here http://www.msicomputer.com/support/sup_tshoot.asp#1_3 scroll down a bit). When I can't get into BIOS I get a combination (1 and 3 red) saying "testing base and Extended Memory, Testing base memory from 240k to 640K and extended memory above 1MB using various patterns" and when I changed the memory and I get into the bios (2 red) I get " Initializing Floppy Drive Controller, This will initialize Floppy Drive and controller". I got that from the book that came with the board.
    The comp is:
    MSI K8N Neo4-F
    Athlon 64 3200+
    MSI NX6600 TD 256 FX6600 PCI-E
    Antec SLK1650 MINI TOWER CASE 350W
    Kingston 1024 MB DDR400 Dual KVR
    Maxtor 120Gb S-ATA
    If anyone can help I would appreciate it! Thank you!
    Posted by: Talannon
    I will add that I tested the ram on another computer and it works fine. Also, when I only have 1 module of ram installed he start to detect the ide drive and sata HD but when It get to the floppy it fail. From there I can go in the bios but when I restart he won't even start detecting stuff he will only freeze after he wrote the memory testing line and then I can't do nothing... or I can hit continue and it even got started with the windows xp install but it crashed, it didn't take long. Reboot and crash at verifying DMI pool data or something like that after I hit continue again after detect floppy fail.
    I tried resetting the cmos then reboot and it said that my config was in overcloaking mode and to reset it on the bios... But there was nothing to change. Also tried to continue there but it stop at Verifying DMI Pool Data.
    The bios installed by default is v 1.3, which is the only version there's not on the msi website... strange
    Anyway I pretty much said all I could, hope someone could help but I have a feeling that the MoBo as problem...
    Posted by: keymaker
    hmm......try takin out all of thec computer parts out of the computer case and this time only reseat the following devices: case, motherboard, cpu, ram, and videocard.
    also try replacing the floppy cable and see if the computer will be able to detect the floppy this time. good luck
    Posted by: Talannon
    It still freeze the same way with only cpu ram and video card on mobo...
    Posted by: zach1288
    Try leaving your battery out longer, Some CMOS batteries can take up to 8 hours to clear.
    Posted by: linderman
    Welcome to TSF:
    two items for consideration
    A) what is your power supply and specs / this is by FAR the most underated overlooked component that plays such a vital role / the generics PSU just plain cant cut the mustard / they rely on cheap price to lure sales not performance / it doesnt take much of a fluctuation in power to send the newer systems baulking.
    B) download and run memtest86.com on your memory modules / sounds like you may have a trouble maker there. Test them one at a time first / then as a pair
    please post back with your findings
    regards
    joe
    Posted by: Talannon
    It could still play a role if I go back in bios and the settings seem to be back at normal? (like the FSB at 200 instead of 400 mhz like I tried to change at first.
    edit: Power supply is a 350W smart Power by Antec
    Posted by: Tumbleweed36
    Hi,
    An Antec is a great power supply, but frankly, don't think a 350 of anything is big enough to handle what you have. Even an Antec, you probably would need a minimum of a 450 to 480 with a very strong amperage rating. Antec and Enermax is where good power supplies are made if the wattage is what you need. That is the first place I would look after the memory thing is checked.
    Posted by: Talannon
    So... I made the test with the ram with this computer and the ram seems to have no problem at all.
    So I guess I should try with a better power supply? But even a 350W with only the motherboard, cpu/fan, ram and video card would still not be enough to run it? Because I still have problem while running only that... Before I go out and buy a good power supply I would like to make sure it could be the source of the problem.
    BTW, thank you all for the help so far, I hope we can find the problem :(
    Posted by: Tumbleweed36
    Hi,
    If you have a Best Buy nearby, go find a good power supply and if it is not the problem, take it back or return it. That way, it would not be an expensive venture that might not solve the problem. Just be careful how you deal with the packaging so you can return it if it does not help. That sounds like the best solution at this time.
    Posted by: Talannon
    Ok, one other I will add is I noticed a trend. If I start the computer I can usually go all the way and start windows installation but it will stop working right after I hit enter to actually start windows installation. If I reset it will always hang at the beginning and unable to even get into the BIOS...
    If I put the ram in dual channel setting it won't even start on first startup. But if it's on single channel it will at least let me go to the bios and such (but never recognized the floppy). Dual channel take more juice to run?
    With this in mind is it possible that the mobo and/or cpu still be the cause of the problem?
    Anyway I think I will try to get a power supply of at least 450W to test it. Just for testing purpose, can I get any power supply even if it's not antec or enermax as long as it has high voltage? I can test it and if it's working I can always return it and go buy a real power supply from antec or enermax where there is one.
    Posted by: ginger6
    I dont think it is your power supply, the power supply you have should handle what you have got no problem, the problem will be your memory...... are the 2 memory sticks you have identical, ie: same manufacturer, same speed, same chips on the board..... to run in dual channel mode you need both sticks to be exactly identical otherwise you will have problems.
    What brand is the memory, if it is a cheap brand then you may have compatibilty problems.
    Have you run memtest86 when both sticks are inserted but not in dual channel mode?
    Kevin
    live links of this type are no longer allowed outside of the advertising form
    dai
    Posted by: Tumbleweed36
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Talannon
    Ok, one other I will add is I noticed a trend. If I start the computer I can usually go all the way and start windows installation but it will stop working right after I hit enter to actually start windows installation. If I reset it will always hang at the beginning and unable to even get into the BIOS...
    If I put the ram in dual channel setting it won't even start on first startup. But if it's on single channel it will at least let me go to the bios and such (but never recognized the floppy). Dual channel take more juice to run?
    With this in mind is it possible that the mobo and/or cpu still be the cause of the problem?
    Anyway I think I will try to get a power supply of at least 450W to test it. Just for testing purpose, can I get any power supply even if it's not antec or enermax as long as it has high voltage? I can test it and if it's working I can always return it and go buy a real power supply from antec or enermax where there is one.
    Hi,
    Before you go out and get another power supply, you need to make sure you have everything hooked up correctly.
    Try flipping the floppy cable over and see if the BIOS recognizes it. That is a common mistake that all of us make from time to time. The red stripe (pin 1) goes toward the power plug on that one and it is opposite as a rule from the other ribbon cables, because the normal power plug on the hard drives have the power plug on the opposite side.
    Second, tell us exactly what drives you have and how you have them hooked up...here is an example: Maxtor 30 gig IDE, set as master, on the end of the ribbon cable, and connected to IDE #1.
    Third, the memory thing does seem to be an issue. Is the memory that you have listed on the QVL list in the motherboard manual?
    For now, for testing purposes, just leave one stick of Ram in the board, and do follow the instructions in the manual about where that single stick should be. As an example, some boards require that when you use a single stick, that it is in Dimm2, Dimm3, or even Dimm4 instead of Dimm 1. That feature is new to some who don't regularly build, so please check that out before you go too far.
    Let us know these things and we will try to get right back to you.
    Posted by: Talannon
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
    Try flipping the floppy cable over and see if the BIOS recognizes it. That is a common mistake that all of us make from time to time. The red stripe (pin 1) goes toward the power plug on that one and it is opposite as a rule from the other ribbon cables, because the normal power plug on the hard drives have the power plug on the opposite side.
    It will only go in the way I put it. Other thing is the power supply is an ATX with 20 pin. My manual says it should work but it also says that I could use a 24 pin SSI power supply but never use those. Again I am sure the power supply is in correctly cause I couldn't plug it any other way anyway.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
    Second, tell us exactly what drives you have and how you have them hooked up...here is an example: Maxtor 30 gig IDE, set as master, on the end of the ribbon cable, and connected to IDE #1.
    Maxtor 160 gig connected on sata 1 and there doesn't seem to ba master/slave option. Is it because it's SATA? It also seems to be detected as IDE THIRD Master on the first page.
    LG DVD +/- RW in master on ide 1
    Nothing on IDE 2
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
    Third, the memory thing does seem to be an issue. Is the memory that you have listed on the QVL list in the motherboard manual?
    My ram is PC3200 (DDR 400) it's supported from what I can read in the book
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
    For now, for testing purposes, just leave one stick of Ram in the board, and do follow the instructions in the manual about where that single stick should be. As an example, some boards require that when you use a single stick, that it is in Dimm2, Dimm3, or even Dimm4 instead of Dimm 1. That feature is new to some who don't regularly build, so please check that out before you go too far.
    Manual says it should be in a green slot first which is dimm 1 and 3. I put it in dimm 1 ans it should be fine. The setup like it is now, is in the combination list in the manual.
    Posted by: Talannon
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ginger6
    I dont think it is your power supply, the power supply you have should handle what you have got no problem, the problem will be your memory...... are the 2 memory sticks you have identical, ie: same manufacturer, same speed, same chips on the board..... to run in dual channel mode you need both sticks to be exactly identical otherwise you will have problems.
    What brand is the memory, if it is a cheap brand then you may have compatibilty problems.
    Have you run memtest86 when both sticks are inserted but not in dual channel mode?
    Kevin
    I've only run test with the ram installed separately...
    I also bought my ram as dual channel so I got a kit from Kingston KVR. So they should be identical to each other. Kingston is in the list of supported memory on MSI webpage of the motherboard...
    Posted by: Talannon
    So I tested the both ram at the same time but in single channel and no error.
    One thing I notice is when I boot the ram is showed to go at 201 mhz instead of 200. Not sure if it says something...
    Posted by: whodatknocking
    Quote:
    First I get the computer and at first boot I get no video signal. I see that I forgot to put the spacer between MoBo and the case. 
    this might be a real problem, we'll see
    but first:
    go into your bios and relaxe the timings on your ram, maybe 3-4-4-8
    pump the voltage up on the ram a notch,to maybe 2.7 or 2.8
    post back
    Posted by: Talannon
    humm I'm not sure what I should be looking for in the bios for that.
    If I put Timing mode in manual instead of auto I can change a bunch of thing. I have no idea what you mean by 3-4-4-8... There is something in that called CAS# latency (Tcl) which is by default at 2.5 but could change it to 2.0 or 3.0. Is that the voltage?
    Posted by: whodatknocking
    try 3
    no it isnt the voltage, the voltage would be in another spot in the bios
    post back
    Posted by: Talannon
    changed nothing
    I guess I am to a point to check the cpu on another socket 939 MoBo to see if it's the cpu or the MoBo the problem. With everything we tried I start to doubt it could be anything else.

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