MSI P965 NEO - power OFF - PS2, USB... still under power!

Hi all, I just changed to the MSI P965 NEO, when I power off, all peripherals (PS2, USB...) are still under power
It makes me upset! User manual didn´t help me at all.
Is it possible to set it up?
Thx!

Quote from: lobo2 on 28-December-06, 01:00:52
What I see - there are no other jumpers;) on mobo (ex. clear cmos)
I use also only 20pin power connector...
So, is it the end of my wishes to have dead pc after turning off... ?
Maybe someone who knows some electronics could build u some device.
I have one bit similar kind, but it uses power from PSU to determine if PC is on or off, to start/stop my water pump (watercooling). It has medium sized condensator to keep power running in case of fast coldboot (shutdown and instant startup).
But I dunno who it would then turn power back on when you want to start the PC. One possibility is that you buy remote controlled AC on/off switch, so you can use remote control to turn on/turn off power from your PC, so after PC has shutdown you cut the power. But it will introduce one excess button to push everytime. :S
Also ductaping remote to your monitor will ensure you wont lose it :D
But it is not much your PC will use power when shutdown. Maximum for USB device to consume is 0.5 watts. So with mouse and KB (and mobo) you will propably consume like 1-2 watts/hour. While your VCR or DVD player will consume like 5 to 40 watts when they are in off-mode showing the clock.
Lets assume 1kW of electricity costs like 0.5 euro. With max usage 2w it makes 48 watts/day (if your computer would be shutdown whole day). Keeping it shutdown whole year you would use 17.5kW of power for nothing. Which then would cost you like ~8 euros.
Now if you want to actually save money your solution should be really cheap. Also this calculation is kind of "worst case scenario" I would quess the PC wont use even 1 watts when its shutdown.
For about 2 to 8 euros / year, I wouldnt bother to do much.
Maybe you should try to find some hobbyiest electronics forums and ask if they knew some kind of automatic solution to this. Or just use "jail remote control" and glue/tape some extender stick to your PSU on/off switch to be able to use it from sitting position and not to kneel to find it. :P

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Hi, all!
I was wondering if someone can help me. I am trying to install Windows 7 x64 on my 320GB HDD that is connected to my MSI P965 Neo-F (MS-7235) mobo (The CPU is a Core2Duo 6600 with 6GB of RAM). I created a bootable USB 8GB flash drive using Microsoft's "Windows 7 DVD USB Download Tool" and bootsect.exe (Needed to create a boot sector on the USB drive) from the MS store. I successfully tested the resulting bootable USB drive using freeware MobaLiveCD (Sorry, you'll have to Google "mobalivecd" since this forum doesn't seem to allow external links) running under Windows XP SP3 x86 (32bit). Under MobaLive's QEMU, Windows 7 setup loaded its files and produced an error message basically saying that it could not install Windows 7 x64 under an x86 OS (No surprise there since QEMU is emulating a 32bit processor - The point is that the bootable USB drive I created works).
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The P965 Neo motherboard is 8 years old, so don't expect miracles. .... You need to format the USB stick in the proper way. You may use this utility to do it: hxxp://www.prime-expert.com/flashboot/ Also, it's a good idea to use the first (USB0) connector (controlled by Intel ICH8) for the USB flash drive. Good luck.
Thank You for your fast response, RemusM!
I'm not looking for a miracle. I'm just looking for a mobo that does what it is supposed to do: Allow me to boot from a USB flash drive (I don't think that is too much to ask for even from a board that was made in 2006)!
Thanks for recommending FlashBoot. I see under their "Why FlashBoot" section that it "... does not shift to user the burden of choice between "USB-ZIP" and "USB-HDD" at format time and proper BIOS setup at boot time. ... and every USB disk is formatted in such way that it will work in every environment properly, regardless of current BIOS setting.", so I will give it a try and let you know about the results afterwards.

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i'm using the Hec Winpower 550W PSU on that same motherboard, and is working fine for me.
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i using v1.9 now ... and i have problem with boot after hybernation with vista..
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with older v1.5 BIOS ... my computer goes to same state like is described here - BLANK ... and BIOS setting was reseted
so and here is one similiar problem
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=100524.0
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Quote from: Zimbower on 14-February-07, 18:50:18
Hi,
yes i do get the green message about the dvd in green color after the memory check(MSI logo)
somthing like ODD0 DVD RW
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get P965 Neo BIOS ver. 1.6 CD Image (have modded boot record and integrate JMB361 Dos drivers.)
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Extract image file from archive, and burn it to CD.(example: open it with nero burning rom and burn image file to CD)
Make and ensure PC is stable, then reboot PC and boot from CD. you will need to confirm twice BIOS update when asked.
after BIOS update is complete successfully, power down your PC, remove power cord from the PSU, hit few time power button to drain electrify from capacitors, touch some metal with hands to discharge any ES which you may have, then open the case and Clear CMOS then pull back power cord, and turn on your PC, will be notice CMOS CHEKSUM MISMATCH/ERROR, hit F1 to continue to rebuild DMI Pool Data, then reboot your PC, and enter in BIOS and LOAD BIOS DEFAULT, SAVE AND EXIT, go back to BIOS and apply your customs settings.
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Hi alls!
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I have the same problem that Er.nest:https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=107722.0 (problem number 5)
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[SOLVED!] DVDRW can't burn on JMicron IDE (MSI P965 Neo)

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edit: i have solved it! i changed my IDE cable (i originally used the IDE cable that came with my dvd-drive, which was a 40pin IDE cable) with the 80pin IDE cable that came with the motherboard. installed jmicron driver, and i can burn now. no more errors from nero
I have an LG GSA-H10N DVD writer.
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=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST380811AS atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-STDVDRAM GSA-H10N JL10 JRAID Port 4 ID 0 DMA: Off
i asked around, DMA should be turned on, says all other forums.
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how to turn on DMA?
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please help. this is giving me headaches. i have lost money thinking i bought defective dvds to burn on, only to find out DMA is not ON (and i can't turn it on anywhere).

I wouldn't call this "solved" would you? Mabe patched...
Yes I am having the same problem:
If I use the Intel IDE drivers, you *can* burn, but it takes literally at least an hour MIN per DVD. Also it maxes out @ 6X for ripping audio CDs. Yes, and this cripples your entire system, everything is super slow, even the mouse is choppy. One of your CPU's will also be maxed out @ 100%. Sound may be also affected while using any DVD drive.
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http://www.hificomputers.net/hifi/Images/before_after.jpg
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I have tried messing with DVD burner's firmware, nothing.
I have tried editing the registry and "forcing" windows to see the DVD Burner as a burner to FORCE the "burning" tab to come back, but still this doesn't affect anything. Still can't burn.
MSI do NOT use JCrapon again! Just search for jmicron in this forum and see all the problems with them! I've had at least 6 MSI boards and this is the first one I've not been satisfied with just because of JMicron. I don't know if this is a Bios fixable issue, but it seems like it should be a JMicron Drivers issue.
Harass JMicron Here:
(tech support email )
[email protected]
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Quote from: stixen on 31-January-08, 22:12:39
Actually Corsair does'nt work good with my PC(no boot sometimes) so i don't want Corsair...
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E6300 @ 300MHz (2.1GHz)
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When I look at the spec from my new xfx geforce 9600gt xxx card I see PCIe x16 2.0
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check Amperage on +12V rails (you sum up 2 rails)
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It is a special order. Meaning it will take up to 4 weeks to arrive. SOB.
I know i am annoying but i am terribly sorry. Can there be other choices such as different brands or the one priced at 229.99?
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"I know i am annoying but i am terribly sorry."
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