MTO for SFG

Hi
We are in process of SAP Implementation, we dont have production planning and product costing in the scope. We want to have sales order wise cost, we are executing unit costing for sales order of FG. However we also want to maintain sales order wise cost for SFG.
Kindly suggest how we can maintain sales order wise cost for SFG, when SFG is not in the sales order and we dont have production planning in the scope.
Please share ur suggestion on urgent basis
Regards

Hi Saad
Avoid the words "Urgent", else your thread will get locked.. lPlease read and respect the forum rules
To calculate cost of SFG at the sales order level, you should set up the Material Master of SFG for "Individual requirement" material in the MRP views..
When you create Sales order for FG, that should also trigger the requirement for SFG and you should be able to calculate the cost of SFG in the Production order (Planned cost)
The cost of FG will consider the cost of SFG depending on the chars you choose for the SFG
Note that cost at sales order level makes sense only if the SFG is customizable based on the FG.. If the SFG is a standard product, you should go for standard cost estimate
Br. Ajay M

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Edited by: vishal Patil on Jun 12, 2008 2:28 PM

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