MTO Sales Order - Immediately confirmed before PO Creation

Dear Guru's,
as I am quite new to SD/PP, maybe my question will lack some information. Do ask if and when needed.
The problem is as such:
we need a general setting (preferably in PP) so that no planned production order can be generated before the Purchase Requisition(s) have been transferred into Purchase Orders. If the setting could be plant specific, even better.
Thanks!
As I don't know whether this is more SD than PP, I've also logged on the PP forum.

Hi Ram,
the purchase req is raised alright, however, we do not want the planned order to be raised prior to the Purchase ORDER being created.
Thanks!

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MTO - Immediately confirmed before PO Creation

Dear Guru's,
as I am quite new to SD/PP, maybe my question will lack some information. Do ask if and when needed.
The problem is as such:
we need a general setting (preferably in PP) so that no planned production order can be generated before the Purchase Requisition(s) have been transferred into Purchase Orders. If the setting could be plant specific, even better.
Thanks!
As I don't know whether this is more PP than SD, I've also logged on the SD forum.

AB,
Well, creation of Purchase Requisitions do not normally cause the creation of planned orders, except in certain subcontracting business scenarios, so I am more confused than ever.
I will speak to a couple of issues. APO Production Planning allows the creation of a PP planning procedure, which can be maintained in the product masters at the location (plant) level. Within the planning procedure, it is possible to configure it such that certain events will trigger automatic heuristic execution, and thereby create procurement proposals (automatic planned orders or automatic purchase reqs). There are standard Planning procedures (e.g., delivered with APO) and the client can also create customized procedures.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm70/helpdata/EN/64/dca63be2bc331be10000000a114084/frameset.htm
It is possible to set up jobs that will automatically convert planned orders to production orders within APO. The same jobs can also automatically convert purchase reqs to purchase orders.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm70/helpdata/EN/6b/f8d33ba0f34f03e10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
It is unclear from your description if either or both of these functionalities have been implemented. It is unclear even if the users have a clear understanding of the solution that they are currently using.
Now to the most important issue. It is becoming evident that you will need some help in solving this problem. It is becoming evident that you also do not have a clear understanding of the business processes currently being executed through APO for this company. The solution of this problem will eventually require a person who understands 1. General APO functionality, 2. this company's business processes, and 3. the details of the current (unsatisfactory) solution. Having you write posts to a forum is unlikely to achieve any successful resolution.
If there are no resources available locally that have this skillset, the I suggest that the company engage a consulting resource that has experience in these areas, It will be money well spent.
Best Regards,
DB49

Release strategy in sales order is required before MRP run

Hi Experts,
My requirement is Release strategy in sales order is required before MRP run. My client is doing the following process:
1) Creation of Sale order (MTO). Ex: User creates 10 sale orders per day.
2) MD04- Stock Requirement List. All 10 Sale orders should be displayed. So no problem here.
3) MD50-Make to order-Planning . Here when user gives the sale order number and sale order item and press enter, then only the released sale orders should be allowed and the rest sale orders it should throw a error message and it should not allow to process further.
How this situation can be addressed in SAP.
Kindly post some hints and comments.
Regards,
Kiran.

Hi Kiran,
Define and Assign status profile BS02 at sales order detail (line item) lets say with create and release status
SD>Sales>Sales documents>Define and assign status profile
Have create status as default while creating SO with item
And do a user exit change for MD50 with ABAP consultant help and release it when user keys in SO and item.
For other line item I believe it will give an error
Pls try and update if it solves your requirment
Regards,
Siva

Can we modify sales order line item before its booked through API?

can we modify sales order line item before its booked through process_order API?
here we have a situation where related item should be substituted for actual order item when user selects the related item , So looking for a way to modify the ordered item on sales order line .
Thanks,

Hi
There is an API to update the Related Item on the line level in the Sales Order.
PROCESS_ORDER API can be used for this purpose. It is part of OE_ORDER_PUB.
Below are the fields on line table type that will be assigned to create an order line with related item and original ordered item.
ORIGINAL_ORDERED_ITEM : Original Item
ORDERED_ITEM : Related Item
ITEM_RELATIONSHIP_TYPE : Type of Relationship.
Please go ahead and try to create it like this. I am pretty sure that it will get the order created with related items.
Note: Please make sure the profile option
OM: Enable Related Items
should be enabled.
Please mark the response as helpful or correct if it provides you the solution.
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Sales order line item delete error for MTO sales order

Dear Experts
iam facing below error for MTO sales order line item deletion
"For reasons of cost management, item 000040 cannot
be deleted"
Please help
Regards,
KEdar

It looks you try to delete the sales order line item and you get this error message.
Try to put reason for rejection for the line item and save the order. This is equal to deleting the line item.
You can also refer the OSS note 14097 - Order item cannot be deleted/overwritten for further information.
Regards,

How/ where to check output type while saving sales order for confirmation

Hi All,
Could you anyone pls let me know How/ where to check output type while saving sales order for confirmation.
Present scenario : when the Sales Order is created the Order confirmation is sent irrespective of credit block of the sales order.
Requirement : Order confirmation ZA00 sent to the partner only for those Sales orders which does not have credit block and ZCLE sent to the partner if the order has credit block.
Now i want to know where exactly to check the output types "ZA00" and 'ZCLE' based on the credit block to send the confirmation to partener.
Quick help highly appreciated......
Preetham

Hi Santosh,
Thanks for the info. But here in this case I have to send the confiramation based on credit limit check. If credit limit check exceeds "ZCLE' should go as confirmation else 'ZA00' should go as confirmation.
Where can we check the credit limit whether it exceeded or not. My doubt is whether it is config issue or do we need to write code user exit or routine to send the specific output type for confirmation.
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Sales order schedule confirmed date will consider Production capacity load

As we know about schedule confirm delivery dates of sales order will consider based on material master lead time ,shiping point etc
How to consider production capacity plan on sales order's delivery date.
Say for example :
Production workcenter capacity to produce the XYZ material 10qty in a Day.
today i have created the sales order XYZ materail qty of 100. lead days has give based of MMR 21 days 17-07-2010( 3 sundays)
and in same day i have created other sales order XYZ material qty 5000 ,the lead days again it will came 17-07-2010.
Now my client requiremnt is when the schedule days is confirming in the sale order it sholud also consider the production capacity planning also(CR01,CR02)
Even though my work centers are overloaded it is confirming the sales order on 17-07-2010 (based on leads days in MMR)
Need your Inputs on issue

Hi,
This is a complex issue; best solution is by using APO/GATP.
If not, then in ERP only, the second best is:
1) Work with assembly processing in SO, meaning that a production/planned order is automatically created in the customer order during order creation.
2) Then, after the order is created it is scheduled, and the delivery date proposal is based on that.
3) Now you can check in the order that there are no capacity overloads, and all capacity required to produce on the proposed date is available. If yes, you're done. If not, it gets a bit complex, since you actualy need to switch to capacity planning, do capacity leveling and dispatch (PP), and the you get a new feasible schedule proposal based on that.
APO/GATP could do all that automatically!
Regards,
Mario

MTO Sales order is NOT a COST OBJECT

Hi All,
I'm working on MTO process and i have some question.i would like to clarify MTO process.
If we are using Valuated MTO process and Sales order is NOT a COST OBJECT
1.Are we going to run material cost estimate for MTO materials?
2.How can i configure or make Sales order is NOT a Cost Object?
3.If Saleso order is not a cost object,how production order process will work from controlling point of you?are we going calculate WIP on production order and WIP is settled to sales order or FI/PCA?
4.Once production order is complete,Goods Receipt will post to Inventory or Sales order stock?
5.Once production order is complete,we are going to calculate variance on production orders?
Any help is appreciated...
Thanks,
Anusha

Hi,
When the MTO is created from sales end it will create the Planned order then it will convert to Production or Process order.
Once the production do GR or confirm Produced QTY the stock will go to Sales stock not to inventory stock.From there the sales can do PGI to customer.once PGI has done the account entry for the customer account will take place automatically.
Once the production completed the Production order need to calculate for the variance & the Settlement need to be done for the production order against the Material which you produced & sale to customer.The difference & variane amount will post to Price difference & moved to Product cost of the material automatically & COPA entry will be done automatically.
The MTO Material need to run for the Cost estimate also.
The WIP can be calculated & difference can be posted against the production order & the material which you produce.
The Process is same as the Make TO Stock scenario.Only the difference is the Production will get generate automatically when the MTO order get created & the stock will post to sales stock automatically.Rest the CO part is same as MTS scenario.
Regards,
Raj

Error in CO88 for SFG cost rollup to FG (MTO Sales Order is Cost Object)

Experts,
I am getting Error in CO08 as No price could be determined for material/batch 7000000001/ plant 1000Message no. CK465
Lower level materials (Semi finished goods) not costing, when I am creating production order against Sales Order for Finished Goods.
I have BOM & Routing for Both Materials as well as it is costing well at sales order level. When Material have Quantity Structure (PP Maters) why system searching for price in material master? Is it require do the any config for cost rollup.
Plz give me the your valuable solution for rectify the error.
Please do the needful.
Thanks & Regards
Bhagirath

Hi,
When the MTO is created from sales end it will create the Planned order then it will convert to Production or Process order.
Once the production do GR or confirm Produced QTY the stock will go to Sales stock not to inventory stock.From there the sales can do PGI to customer.once PGI has done the account entry for the customer account will take place automatically.
Once the production completed the Production order need to calculate for the variance & the Settlement need to be done for the production order against the Material which you produced & sale to customer.The difference & variane amount will post to Price difference & moved to Product cost of the material automatically & COPA entry will be done automatically.
The MTO Material need to run for the Cost estimate also.
The WIP can be calculated & difference can be posted against the production order & the material which you produce.
The Process is same as the Make TO Stock scenario.Only the difference is the Production will get generate automatically when the MTO order get created & the stock will post to sales stock automatically.Rest the CO part is same as MTS scenario.
Regards,
Raj

Sales Order Qty Confirmation Issue

Hi
I have created the order form my material with quantity of 10 units. The total unrestricted stock available for the material is only 5 units.
When I look at the schedule lines, the total order qty is confirmed even though the short of 5 unit of stock.
I was confused here. By right, the order should only confirm the 5 unit with respect the stock availability. But I dont understand why system has
Confirmed the 10 units completely.
If my understanding is correct, the sales order has to confirm the sales order based on the stock. In later stage, once the stock is up, we need create the
Schedule line for the remaining qty by re-do the availability check function.
Could you please someone correct me on this order confirmation logic !!
Regards
Priyan

Hi SS
Order is a normal (Type: OR) Trade order. And there is no consignment stock maintained for this material.
In MMBE, I can see only unrestricted stock exist for this material.
Please confirm whether my material setup is correct.
It is usual vanilla setup.
My doubt is that how come the order item has been confirmed with excess qty and system allows us to create the delivery as well.
Firstly, on what basis the order full qty has confirmed.
Please advice.
Regards
Priyan

MTO (Production order) & MTO (Sale order)

What would be the end user activity in Controlling (CO) module for both MTO production and sale order scenarios in terms of planned and actual costing point of view? (Kindly mention T-Codes as well)
I think in sales order scenario the sale order act as a CO object and collect both the revenue and costs itself. The order closing activity will be performed by SD user and so nothing will be done by CO user at the end for actual cost and in the planning phase only the activities needed to be planned on production cost center by the CO user. How and where to run the cost estimate if the process is triggered by the SD user and how to settle variances if the SD user is closing the order?
N.B. Material Ledger is not activated and costing is done without variant configuration and the MRP is yet to be decided so let me know in both of the cases (i.e. with and without MRP)
Thanks

Hi SK,
Make to Stock & Make to Order scenario functionality rational in terms of Fundamentals, only the difference of Cost Object is different which cost will determine to calculate.
Month end Activity for both MTS & MTO will perform by CO users (where as in MTO all cost activity will consumed wit relate to SD process against SO wise..i.e @posting level in SD side)
The following month end activity T Code listed out.
Make to Stock
Make to Order
Template Allocation
CPTJ - Template Allocation
CPTA - Individual Processing (Single)
VAN1 - Revaluation at Actual Prices
CPTD - Collective Processing (Multiple)
VA44 - Overhead
Revaluation at Actual Prices
Results Analysis
MFN1 - Individual Processing (Single)
KKA3 - Individual Processing
CON2 - Collective Processing (Collective)
KKAK - Collective Processing
Overhead
Settlement
KGI2 - Individual Processing
VA88 - Settlement
CO43 - Collective Processing
Preliminary Settlement for Co-Products, Rework
CO8B - Individual Processing
CO8A - Collective Processing
Work in Process
KKAX - Calculate (Single)
KKAO - Calculate (Collective)
Variances
KKS2 - Individual Processing
KKS1 - Collective Processing
Settlement
KO88 - Individual Processing
CO88 - Collective Processing

Sale order 'value changes' after invoice creation

Experts,
A sale order was created / shipped / invoiced. The invoice did not go to accounting because of credit auth error. We have a procedure to fix it and then release it to accounting (transaction VFX3). All OK until this point.
While fixing the auth error, an user changed the freight condition value in the sale order. Then invoice is released to accounting. Now, the value of freight in order and invoice match. How is it possible to change the value of an invoice after its creation?
Any input would be appreciated.
UV

when the value is changed in the sale order, it would automatically transfer
the new pricing to the existing open SD invoice pending accounting entry??
Certainly not. The control is in VTFL where if you select the billing item category for the combination of your delivery type and billing type, you can see a field "Pricing Type". If you maintain any value other than "B", system will copy the price from sale order to billing and you can, as I said above, can change manually in billing. On the other hand, if you have maintained "B" in the above field, system will not consider sale order price but will check your pricing condition maintained in VK11 which you can check in VK12 or VK13.
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Change Purchase Order type ,price before auto creation of PO through MIGO?

Hi ,
I have reuirement infront of me.
We are creating return Purchase order through MIGO for Non-ordered items.
Purchase Order is created automatically by SAP.
I need to change its Purchase Order type , Net Price , Order Price Unit .
Is it possible to modify the content before the creation of this PO.
Please help me .
Regards,
Amit

We are not using BPA ; is there any solution involving ASL and/or Sourcing Rule which can be used to meet the User requirement.There certainly is. It involves using either Blanket Purchase Aggreement (which you don't have) or using Quotes.
Once you have created either of those, simply create an ASL entry for the item(s), attach the Quote or BPA to the ASL entry; create a sourcing rule.
Once these setups are done, when a requisition is created and approved, it will get converted into a PO automatically.
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Static Credit check at Sales Order for confirmed quantity only.

Dear All,
I am facing two problems and would really appreciate if you could give some inputs on it.
If a SO is of 100 tons and the confirmed quantity is 10 tons then the credit check is happening for the value of confirmed quantity only as per the requirement.
1. But after releasing the SO using VKM3 I have to carry availability check again in the sales order as the confirmed quantity is becoming zero. Pls tell me how to control this, the confirmed qty should not change.
2. If I increase the confirmed quantity to more than 10 still the system is allowing me to create the delivery without blocking for credit check again as I had released the SO credit for value of 10 tons goods only .
Regards,
Abhilash

HI,
1) T-code OV27- You have not maintained confimation block here.
2) T-code OVA8- Select the credit settings and double click it.You get Display View "View for maintenance of automatic credit control" .
Maintain the deviation in "released documents still unchecked" section.
Thanks,
Vrajesh
Edited by: Vrajesh Nayak on Jul 24, 2008 5:28 AM
Edited by: Vrajesh Nayak on Jul 24, 2008 5:35 AM

Sales order - Procurement Confirmation Wizard

Hi everyone,
I've a problem with a sales order and would like help of you.
When create/update a sales order appears authorization [Procurement Confirmation Wizard]. I checked some parameters Logistics tab and Item Master
Data, but i don't found any error. I have attached the screen with error for better understanding.
SAP 9 - PL 11 and too 8.82 PL 15.
Best Regards,
Fredy Emanuel.

Hi Nagarajan,
Thanks for reply, I had done test changing user authorization this way that you said. But results aren't that I want.
Look the test (attached), when create sales order automatically appears screen [Procurement Confirmation Wizard]. I don't need create this, I need only sales order.
Best Regards,
Fredy Emanuel.

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