[multi-booting] editing grub post-install

Hey everyone, i'm installing Arch as a tertiary OS on one drive (w/ XP and Ubuntu). In the installation i skipped writing the bootloader to the MBR as I don't want to lose boot data on the existing grub menu. I know I could manually edit them in later, but I think that may be too risky atm.
the arch installation is on partition on /dev/sda4, while ubuntu is sda3. In menu.lst, ubuntu is (hd0,2) and xp is (hd0,0). guesswork has led me to making arch (hd0,3) as I think they are supposed to go in left-right order on the disk.
So, I was thinking I can manually edit menu.lst to add an option for booting Arch:
title Arch Linux
root (hd0,3)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz26 root=/dev/sda4 ro
initrd /boot/kernel26.img
I tried removing /boot/ in the kernel and initrd paths, same error after selecting Arch Linux in grub on startup:
Error 15: File not found
Is my logic correct, am I missing something obvious, or something else?

Here is my /boot/grub/menu.lst and as you can see some are /boot/etc. and some are not:
# Config file for GRUB - The GNU GRand Unified Bootloader
# /boot/grub/menu.lst
# DEVICE NAME CONVERSIONS
# Old /dev DevFS Grub
# /dev/fd0 /dev/floppy/0 (fd0)
# /dev/hda /dev/discs/disc0/disc (hd0)
# /dev/hdb2 /dev/discs/disc1/part2 (hd1,1)
# /dev/hda3 /dev/discs/disc0/part3 (hd0,2)
# FRAMEBUFFER RESOLUTION SETTINGS
# +----------------------------------------+
# | 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024
# ----+-----------------------------------
# 256 | 0x301 0x303 0x305 0x307
# 32K | 0x310 0x313 0x316 0x319
# 64K | 0x311 0x314 0x317 0x31A
# 16M | 0x312 0x315 0x318 0x31B
# +----------------------------------------+
# general configuration:
timeout 10
default 0
color light-cyan/black white/blue
# boot sections follow
# each is implicitly numbered from 0 in the order of appearance below
# TIP: If you want a 1024x768 framebuffer, add "vga=773" to your kernel line.
# TIP: To use udev, add "devfs=nomount" to your kernel line.
title Arch Linux 64 bit (Default Linux Desktop)
root (hd0,4)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz26 root=/dev/sda5 ro vga=791
initrd /boot/kernel26.img
title Windows XP Professional
root (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1
title Debian 64 bit Linux (Etch)
root (hd0,6)
kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda7 ro vga=791
initrd /initrd.img
title Ubuntu 64 bit Linux (Hardy Heron)
root (hd0,7)
kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda8 ro vga=791 quiet splash
initrd /initrd.img
title Fedora 64 bit Linux (8.0)
root (hd0,8)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda9 ro vga=791 rhgb quiet
initrd /boot/initrd.img
title Mandriva 64 bit Linux (2008.0)
root (hd0,11)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-desktop root=/dev/hda12 ro vga=791 splash=silent
initrd /boot/initrd-desktop.img
title Mepis 64 bit Linux (7.0)
root (hd0,10)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda11 ro vga=791 splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img
title Suse 64 bit Linux (11.0)
root (hd0,14)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda15 vga=0x317 resume=/dev/sda3 splash=silent showopts
initrd /boot/initrd
title Sidux 64 bit Linux
root (hd0,12)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.21.3-slh64-smp-4 root=/dev/hda13 ro vga=788 quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.21.3-slh64-smp-4
title Dreamlinux 32 bit Linux (3.0-beta)
root (hd0,9)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.23.12-dream root=/dev/hda10 ro vga=791 quiet splash=silent
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.23.12-drem
#title Vector 64 bit Linux (5.9 Beta)
#root (hd0,9)
#kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda10 ro vga=791
#title Slackware 32 bit Linux (12.0)
#root (hd0,)
#kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda ro vga=791
title PCLinux OS 32 bit (2007)
root (hd0,13)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda14 ro vga=791
initrd /boot/initrd.img
#title Mint 32 bit Linux (4.0 fluxbox beta-028)
#root (hd0,)
#kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda ro quiet splash
#initrd /initrd.img
#title gOS 32 bit Linux (1.01)
#root (hd0,)
#kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda ro vga=791 quiet splash
#initrd /initrd.img
#title Elive 32 bit Linux (beta)
#root (hd0,12)
#kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda13 ro vga=788 quiet splash
#initrd /initrd.img
#title Geubuntu 32 bit linux (7.10)
#root (hd0,14)
#kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda15 ro quiet splash
#initrd /initrd.img
I play around with quite a few flavours of linux from time to time just to see if there are things I might like done differently on my Arch linux.

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    xfwm4-themes 4.10.0-2
    xorg-server 1.17.1-4
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    firefox 36.0.3-1
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    ipw2200-fw 3.1-5
    iso-codes 3.57-1
    jansson 2.7-1
    jasper 1.900.1-13
    jfsutils 1.1.15-4
    js17 17.0.0-1
    json-c 0.12-2
    json-glib 1.0.2-1
    kbd 2.0.2-1
    kbproto 1.0.6-2
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    kmod 20-1
    krb5 1.13.1-1
    lcms2 2.6-1
    ldb 1.1.20-1
    less 471-1
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    lib32-attr 2.4.47-1
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    lib32-curl 7.41.0-1
    lib32-e2fsprogs 1.42.12-1
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    lib32-icu 54.1-1
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    lib32-nvidia-340xx-utils 340.76-1
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    libatasmart 0.19-3
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    libcanberra-pulse 0.30-5
    libcap 2.24-2
    libcap-ng 0.7.4-1
    libcddb 1.3.2-4
    libcdio 0.93-1
    libcdio-paranoia 10.2+0.93+1-1
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    libcups 2.0.2-1
    libdaemon 0.14-3
    libdatrie 0.2.8-1
    libdbus 1.8.16-2
    libdrm 2.4.59-1
    libedit 20141030_3.1-1
    libepoxy 1.2-2
    libevdev 1.4-1
    libevent 2.0.22-1
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    libffi 3.2.1-1
    libfontenc 1.1.2-1
    libgcrypt 1.6.3-2
    libgksu 2.0.12-6
    libgnome-keyring 3.12.0-2
    libgpg-error 1.18-1
    libgphoto2 2.5.7-1
    libgtop 2.30.0-1
    libgusb 0.2.4-1
    libice 1.0.9-1
    libidn 1.30-1
    libieee1284 0.2.11-5
    libimobiledevice 1.2.0-1
    libisofs 1.3.8-1
    libjpeg-turbo 1.4.0-1
    libkeybinder2 0.3.0-2
    libksba 1.3.2-1
    libldap 2.4.40-2
    libmm-glib 1.4.4-1
    libmpc 1.0.3-1
    libndp 1.4-1
    libnewt 0.52.17-2
    libnl 3.2.25-1
    libnm-glib 1.0.0-2
    libnm-gtk 1.0.0-1
    libnotify 0.7.6-1
    libogg 1.3.2-1
    libomxil-bellagio 0.9.3-1
    libpaper 1.1.24-7
    libpcap 1.6.2-1
    libpciaccess 0.13.3-1
    libpeas 1.12.1-1
    libpipeline 1.4.0-1
    libplist 1.12-1
    libpng 1.6.16-1
    libproxy 0.4.11-5
    libpulse 6.0-1
    librsvg 1:2.40.8-1
    libsamplerate 0.1.8-3
    libsasl 2.1.26-7
    libseccomp 2.1.1-1
    libsecret 0.18-1
    libsigc++ 2.4.1-1
    libsm 1.2.2-2
    libsndfile 1.0.25-3
    libsoup 2.48.1-1
    libssh2 1.4.3-2
    libsystemd 218-2
    libtasn1 4.3-1
    libteam 1.14-1
    libthai 0.1.21-1
    libtheora 1.1.1-3
    libtiff 4.0.3-5
    libtirpc 0.2.5-1
    libtool 2.4.6-1
    libtxc_dxtn 1.0.1-6
    libunique 1.1.6-6
    libunistring 0.9.5-1
    libunwind 1.1-2
    libusb 1.0.19-1
    libusbmuxd 1.0.10-1
    libutempter 1.1.6-2
    libutil-linux 2.25.2-1
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    libvorbis 1.3.4-1
    libvpx 1.3.0-1
    libwbclient 4.2.0-1
    libwnck 2.31.0-1
    libx11 1.6.3-1
    libxau 1.0.8-2
    libxaw 1.0.12-1
    libxcb 1.11-1
    libxcomposite 0.4.4-2
    libxcursor 1.1.14-2
    libxdamage 1.1.4-2
    libxdmcp 1.1.1-2
    libxext 1.3.3-1
    libxfce4ui 4.12.1-1
    libxfce4util 4.12.1-1
    libxfixes 5.0.1-1
    libxfont 1.5.1-1
    libxft 2.3.2-1
    libxi 1.7.4-1
    libxinerama 1.1.3-2
    libxkbcommon 0.5.0-1
    libxkbcommon-x11 0.5.0-1
    libxkbfile 1.0.8-2
    libxklavier 5.4-1
    libxml2 2.9.2-2
    libxmu 1.1.2-1
    libxpm 3.5.11-1
    libxrandr 1.4.2-2
    libxrender 0.9.8-1
    libxres 1.0.7-1
    libxshmfence 1.2-1
    libxslt 1.1.28-3
    libxt 1.1.4-1
    libxtst 1.2.2-1
    libxv 1.0.10-1
    libxxf86vm 1.1.4-1
    licenses 20140629-1
    linux 3.19.2-1
    linux-api-headers 3.18.5-1
    linux-firmware 20150206.17657c3-1
    llvm-libs 3.6.0-3
    logrotate 3.8.9-1
    lvm2 2.02.116-1
    lz4 127-1
    lzo 2.09-1
    m4 1.4.17-1
    make 4.1-1
    man-db 2.7.1-1
    man-pages 3.81-1
    mcpp 2.7.2-5
    mdadm 3.3.2-1
    mesa 10.5.1-2
    mime-types 9-1
    mkinitcpio 18-2
    mkinitcpio-busybox 1.21.1-2
    mobile-broadband-provider-info 20120614-2
    mousepad 0.4.0-1
    mozilla-common 1.4-4
    mpfr 3.1.2.p11-1
    mtdev 1.1.5-1
    nano 2.2.6-3
    ncurses 5.9-7
    net-snmp 5.7.3-1
    net-tools 1.60.20130531git-1
    netctl 1.10-1
    nettle 2.7.1-1
    network-manager-applet 1.0.0-1
    networkmanager 1.0.0-2
    npth 1.1-1
    nspr 4.10.8-1
    nss 3.17.4-1
    ntfs-3g 2014.2.15-1
    ntp 4.2.8.p1-1
    nvidia-340xx 340.76-6
    nvidia-340xx-libgl 340.76-2
    nvidia-340xx-utils 340.76-2
    openjpeg 1.5.2-1
    openresolv 3.6.1-1
    openssl 1.0.2.a-1
    orc 0.4.23-1
    os-prober 1.64-1
    p11-kit 0.22.1-3
    package-query 1.5-2
    pacman 4.2.1-1
    pacman-mirrorlist 20150315-1
    pam 1.1.8-5
    pambase 20130928-1
    pango 1.36.8-1
    pangomm 2.34.0-1
    patch 2.7.5-1
    pavucontrol 2.0-2
    pciutils 3.3.0-1
    pcmciautils 018-7
    pcre 8.36-2
    perl 5.20.2-1
    perl-clone 0.37-2
    perl-dbi 1.633-1
    perl-xml-libxml 2.0117-1
    perl-xml-namespacesupport 1.11-3
    perl-xml-sax 0.99-4
    perl-xml-sax-base 1.08-3
    pinentry 0.9.0-1
    pixman 0.32.6-1
    pkg-config 0.28-2
    polkit 0.112-2
    polkit-gnome 0.105-2
    poppler 0.31.0-1
    poppler-glib 0.31.0-1
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    ppp 2.4.7-1
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    psmisc 22.21-2
    pth 2.0.7-5
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    qt5-xmlpatterns 5.4.1-2
    qtchooser 48-1
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    readline 6.3.006-1
    recordproto 1.14.2-2
    reiserfsprogs 3.6.24-1
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    rest 0.7.92-1
    rp-pppoe 3.11-7
    s-nail 14.7.11-1
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    sane 1.0.24-4
    sddm 0.11.0-1
    sed 4.2.2-3
    shadow 4.2.1-2
    shared-mime-info 1.4-1
    simple-scan 3.14.2-1
    slang 2.3.0-1
    smbclient 4.2.0-1
    sound-theme-freedesktop 0.8-2
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    startup-notification 0.12-4
    sudo 1.8.12-1
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    systemd 218-2
    systemd-sysvcompat 218-2
    talloc 2.1.1-1
    tar 1.28-1
    tdb 1.3.4-1
    tevent 0.9.24-1
    texinfo 5.2-3
    thin-provisioning-tools 0.4.1-1
    thunar 1.6.6-1
    thunar-volman 0.8.1-1
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    ttf-ms-fonts 2.0-10
    ttf-urdufonts 1.2-3
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    tzdata 2015a-1
    udisks2 2.1.5-1
    upower 0.99.2-2
    usbmuxd 1.1.0-2
    usbutils 008-1
    util-linux 2.25.2-1
    v4l-utils 1.6.2-1
    vi 1:050325-4
    videoproto 2.3.2-1
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    vte-common 0.38.3-1
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    wget 1.16.3-1
    which 2.20-7
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    wine_gecko 2.36-1
    wpa_supplicant 2.3-1
    xbitmaps 1.1.1-3
    xcb-proto 1.11-1
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    xcb-util-image 0.4.0-1
    xcb-util-keysyms 0.4.0-1
    xcb-util-wm 0.4.1-1
    xdg-user-dirs 0.15-1
    xdg-utils 1.1.0.git20150302-1
    xextproto 7.3.0-1
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    xf86-input-keyboard 1.8.0-3
    xf86-input-mouse 1.9.1-1
    xf86-input-synaptics 1.8.1-1
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    xfce4-appfinder 4.12.0-1
    xfce4-mixer 4.11.0-2
    xfce4-panel 4.12.0-1
    xfce4-power-manager 1.4.3-1
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    xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin 1.5.0-2
    xfconf 4.12.0-1
    xfdesktop 4.12.0-1
    xfsprogs 3.2.2-1
    xfwm4 4.12.2-1
    xfwm4-themes 4.10.0-2
    xineramaproto 1.2.1-3
    xkeyboard-config 2.14-1
    xorg-bdftopcf 1.0.5-1
    xorg-font-util 1.3.1-1
    xorg-font-utils 7.6-4
    xorg-fonts-alias 1.0.3-1
    xorg-fonts-encodings 1.0.4-4
    xorg-fonts-misc 1.0.3-3
    xorg-iceauth 1.0.7-1
    xorg-luit 1.1.1-2
    xorg-mkfontdir 1.0.7-2
    xorg-mkfontscale 1.1.2-1
    xorg-server 1.17.1-4
    xorg-server-common 1.17.1-4
    xorg-server-utils 7.6-4
    xorg-sessreg 1.1.0-1
    xorg-setxkbmap 1.3.0-2
    xorg-xauth 1.0.9-1
    xorg-xbacklight 1.2.1-1
    xorg-xcmsdb 1.0.4-2
    xorg-xgamma 1.0.5-2
    xorg-xhost 1.0.6-1
    xorg-xinit 1.3.4-2
    xorg-xinput 1.6.1-1
    xorg-xkbcomp 1.3.0-1
    xorg-xmodmap 1.0.8-1
    xorg-xrandr 1.4.3-1
    xorg-xrdb 1.1.0-1
    xorg-xrefresh 1.0.5-1
    xorg-xset 1.2.3-1
    xorg-xsetroot 1.1.1-2
    xproto 7.0.27-1
    xterm 316-1
    xz 5.2.1-1
    yajl 2.1.0-1
    yaourt 1.5-1
    zd1211-firmware 1.5-1
    zlib 1.2.8-3
    4. Output from Slithery's script
    clear; echo -n "Number of installed packages: $(pacman -Qq | wc -l)"; echo; echo; echo "# Packages in base group that aren't installed"; comm -23 <((for i in $(pacman -Sqg base); do pactree -us $i; done)|sort -u|cut -d ' ' -f 1) <(pacman -Qq); echo; echo "# Packages installed that aren't in base group"; comm -13 <((for i in $(pacman -Sqg base); do pactree -us $i; done)|sort -u|cut -d ' ' -f 1) <(pacman -Qq); echo; echo "# pstree"; pstree -U; echo; echo "# enabled services"; systemctl list-unit-files | grep enabled | grep service; echo; echo "# ssd df"; df -h -t ext4; echo; echo "# free"; free -m; echo
    Note: Some information produced above will be repeaeted
    [H[2JNumber of installed packages: 539
    # Packages in base group that aren't installed
    # Packages installed that aren't in base group
    adwaita-icon-theme
    alsa-lib
    alsa-utils
    at-spi2-atk
    at-spi2-core
    atk
    atkmm
    autoconf
    automake
    avahi
    b43-fwcutter
    bash-completion
    bc
    binutils
    bison
    btrfs-progs
    cairo
    cairomm
    cantarell-fonts
    cdparanoia
    cifs-utils
    colord
    compositeproto
    cups
    cups-filters
    damageproto
    dbus-glib
    dconf
    desktop-file-utils
    dhclient
    dialog
    dropbox
    elfutils
    eog
    epdfview
    exempi
    exo
    fakeroot
    firefox
    fixesproto
    flac
    flashplugin
    flex
    fontconfig
    fontsproto
    foomatic-db-engine
    freetype2
    fuse
    galculator
    gamin
    garcon
    gc
    gcc
    gconf
    gcr
    gd
    gdk-pixbuf2
    ghostscript
    gksu
    glib-networking
    glibmm
    glu
    gnome-colors-icon-theme
    gnome-desktop
    gnome-icon-theme
    gnome-icon-theme-symbolic
    gnome-keyring
    gnome-themes-standard
    gobject-introspection
    gpm
    graphite
    grub
    grub2-theme-archxion
    gsettings-desktop-schemas
    gstreamer0.10
    gstreamer0.10-base
    gstreamer0.10-base-plugins
    gtk-update-icon-cache
    gtk-xfce-engine
    gtk2
    gtk3
    gtkmm3
    gtksourceview2
    guile
    gvfs
    gvfs-afc
    gvfs-smb
    harfbuzz
    hicolor-icon-theme
    hplip
    hplip-plugin
    hunspell
    icu
    iniparser
    inputproto
    ipw2100-fw
    ipw2200-fw
    iso-codes
    jansson
    jasper
    js17
    json-c
    json-glib
    kbproto
    lcms2
    ldb
    lib32-acl
    lib32-attr
    lib32-bzip2
    lib32-curl
    lib32-e2fsprogs
    lib32-expat
    lib32-fontconfig
    lib32-freetype2
    lib32-gcc-libs
    lib32-gettext
    lib32-glib2
    lib32-glibc
    lib32-glu
    lib32-harfbuzz
    lib32-icu
    lib32-keyutils
    lib32-krb5
    lib32-libcap
    lib32-libdbus
    lib32-libffi
    lib32-libgcrypt
    lib32-libgpg-error
    lib32-libice
    lib32-libldap
    lib32-libnl
    lib32-libpcap
    lib32-libpng
    lib32-libsm
    lib32-libssh2
    lib32-libusb
    lib32-libx11
    lib32-libxau
    lib32-libxcb
    lib32-libxcursor
    lib32-libxdamage
    lib32-libxdmcp
    lib32-libxext
    lib32-libxfixes
    lib32-libxi
    lib32-libxml2
    lib32-libxrandr
    lib32-libxrender
    lib32-ncurses
    lib32-nvidia-340xx-libgl
    lib32-nvidia-340xx-utils
    lib32-openssl
    lib32-pcre
    lib32-readline
    lib32-systemd
    lib32-util-linux
    lib32-xz
    lib32-zlib
    libasyncns
    libatasmart
    libatomic_ops
    libbluray
    libbsd
    libburn
    libcanberra
    libcanberra-pulse
    libcap-ng
    libcddb
    libcdio
    libcdio-paranoia
    libcroco
    libcups
    libdaemon
    libdatrie
    libdrm
    libedit
    libepoxy
    libevdev
    libevent
    libexif
    libfontenc
    libgksu
    libgnome-keyring
    libgphoto2
    libgtop
    libgusb
    libice
    libieee1284
    libimobiledevice
    libisofs
    libjpeg-turbo
    libkeybinder2
    libmm-glib
    libmpc
    libndp
    libnewt
    libnl
    libnm-glib
    libnm-gtk
    libnotify
    libogg
    libomxil-bellagio
    libpaper
    libpcap
    libpciaccess
    libpeas
    libplist
    libpng
    libproxy
    libpulse
    librsvg
    libsamplerate
    libsecret
    libsigc++
    libsm
    libsndfile
    libsoup
    libteam
    libthai
    libtheora
    libtiff
    libtool
    libtxc_dxtn
    libunique
    libunwind
    libusbmuxd
    libutempter
    libvisual
    libvorbis
    libvpx
    libwbclient
    libwnck
    libx11
    libxau
    libxaw
    libxcb
    libxcomposite
    libxcursor
    libxdamage
    libxdmcp
    libxext
    libxfce4ui
    libxfce4util
    libxfixes
    libxfont
    libxft
    libxi
    libxinerama
    libxkbcommon
    libxkbcommon-x11
    libxkbfile
    libxklavier
    libxml2
    libxmu
    libxpm
    libxrandr
    libxrender
    libxres
    libxshmfence
    libxslt
    libxt
    libxtst
    libxv
    libxxf86vm
    llvm-libs
    m4
    make
    mcpp
    mesa
    mime-types
    mobile-broadband-provider-info
    mousepad
    mozilla-common
    mtdev
    net-snmp
    net-tools
    network-manager-applet
    networkmanager
    nspr
    nss
    ntfs-3g
    ntp
    nvidia-340xx
    nvidia-340xx-libgl
    nvidia-340xx-utils
    openjpeg
    orc
    os-prober
    package-query
    pango
    pangomm
    patch
    pavucontrol
    perl-clone
    perl-dbi
    perl-xml-libxml
    perl-xml-namespacesupport
    perl-xml-sax
    perl-xml-sax-base
    pixman
    pkg-config
    polkit
    polkit-gnome
    poppler
    poppler-glib
    ppp
    python
    python2
    python2-xdg
    qpdf
    qt5-base
    qt5-declarative
    qt5-xmlpatterns
    qtchooser
    randrproto
    recordproto
    renderproto
    rest
    rp-pppoe
    samba
    sane
    sddm
    shared-mime-info
    simple-scan
    slang
    smbclient
    sound-theme-freedesktop
    sqlite
    startup-notification
    sudo
    talloc
    tdb
    tevent
    thunar
    thunar-volman
    thunderbird
    ttf-dejavu
    ttf-ms-fonts
    ttf-urdufonts
    tumbler
    udisks2
    upower
    usbmuxd
    v4l-utils
    videoproto
    vte
    vte-common
    wayland
    wget
    wine
    wine-mono
    wine_gecko
    wpa_supplicant
    xbitmaps
    xcb-proto
    xcb-util
    xcb-util-image
    xcb-util-keysyms
    xcb-util-wm
    xdg-user-dirs
    xdg-utils
    xextproto
    xf86-input-evdev
    xf86-input-keyboard
    xf86-input-mouse
    xf86-input-synaptics
    xf86vidmodeproto
    xfburn
    xfce4-appfinder
    xfce4-mixer
    xfce4-panel
    xfce4-power-manager
    xfce4-session
    xfce4-settings
    xfce4-terminal
    xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin
    xfconf
    xfdesktop
    xfwm4
    xfwm4-themes
    xineramaproto
    xkeyboard-config
    xorg-bdftopcf
    xorg-font-util
    xorg-font-utils
    xorg-fonts-alias
    xorg-fonts-encodings
    xorg-fonts-misc
    xorg-iceauth
    xorg-luit
    xorg-mkfontdir
    xorg-mkfontscale
    xorg-server
    xorg-server-common
    xorg-server-utils
    xorg-sessreg
    xorg-setxkbmap
    xorg-xauth
    xorg-xbacklight
    xorg-xcmsdb
    xorg-xgamma
    xorg-xhost
    xorg-xinit
    xorg-xinput
    xorg-xkbcomp
    xorg-xmodmap
    xorg-xrandr
    xorg-xrdb
    xorg-xrefresh
    xorg-xset
    xorg-xsetroot
    xproto
    xterm
    yajl
    yaourt
    zd1211-firmware
    # pstree
    systemd─┬─NetworkManager─┬─dhclient
    │ ├─{NetworkManager}
    │ ├─{gdbus}
    │ └─{gmain}
    ├─Thunar─┬─{gdbus}
    │ └─{gmain}
    ├─at-spi-bus-laun─┬─dbus-daemon
    │ ├─{dconf worker}
    │ ├─{gdbus}
    │ └─{gmain}
    ├─at-spi2-registr───{gdbus}
    ├─avahi-daemon───avahi-daemon
    ├─colord─┬─{gdbus}
    │ └─{gmain}
    ├─cupsd
    ├─3*[dbus-daemon]
    ├─2*[dbus-launch]
    ├─dconf-service─┬─{gdbus}
    │ └─{gmain}
    ├─firefox─┬─6*[{Analysis Helper}]
    │ ├─{Cache I/O}
    │ ├─{Cache2 I/O}
    │ ├─{Cert Verify}
    │ ├─{Compositor}
    │ ├─{DNS Resolver #7}
    │ ├─{DNS Resolver #9}
    │ ├─{DNS Res~ver #10}
    │ ├─3*[{DOM Worker}]
    │ ├─{GMPThread}
    │ ├─{Gecko_IOThread}
    │ ├─{HTML5 Parser}
    │ ├─{Hang Monitor}
    │ ├─{IPDL Background}
    │ ├─{Image Scaler}
    │ ├─{ImageBridgeChil}
    │ ├─{JS Watchdog}
    │ ├─{MediaManager}
    │ ├─{Net Predictor}
    │ ├─{Proxy R~olution}
    │ ├─{Socket Thread}
    │ ├─{Timer}
    │ ├─{URL Classifier}
    │ ├─{dconf worker}
    │ ├─3*[{firefox}]
    │ ├─{gdbus}
    │ ├─{gmain}
    │ ├─{localStorage DB}
    │ ├─{mozStorage #10}
    │ ├─{mozStorage #1}
    │ ├─{mozStorage #2}
    │ ├─{mozStorage #3}
    │ ├─{mozStorage #4}
    │ ├─{mozStorage #5}
    │ ├─{mozStorage #6}
    │ ├─{mozStorage #7}
    │ ├─{mozStorage #8}
    │ └─{mozStorage #9}
    ├─gnome-keyring-d─┬─{dconf worker}
    │ ├─{gdbus}
    │ ├─{gmain}
    │ └─{timer}
    ├─gpg-agent
    ├─gvfs-afc-volume─┬─{gdbus}
    │ └─{gvfs-afc-volume}
    ├─gvfs-udisks2-vo─┬─{gdbus}
    │ └─{gmain}
    ├─gvfsd───{gdbus}
    ├─gvfsd-fuse─┬─{gdbus}
    │ ├─{gvfs-fuse-sub}
    │ └─2*[{gvfsd-fuse}]
    ├─gvfsd-metadata───{gdbus}
    ├─gvfsd-trash─┬─{gdbus}
    │ └─{gmain}
    ├─polkitd─┬─{JS GC Helper}
    │ ├─{JS Sour~ Thread}
    │ ├─{gdbus}
    │ ├─{gmain}
    │ └─{runaway-killer-}
    ├─sddm─┬─Xorg
    │ ├─sddm-helper─┬─sh───xfce4-session─┬─dropbox─┬─{QXcbEventReader}
    │ │ │ │ └─24*[{dropbox}]
    │ │ │ ├─nm-applet─┬─{dconf worker}
    │ │ │ │ ├─{gdbus}
    │ │ │ │ └─{gmain}
    │ │ │ ├─polkit-gnome-au───{gdbus}
    │ │ │ ├─{gdbus}
    │ │ │ └─{gmain}
    │ │ └─{QProcessManager}
    │ └─{QProcessManager}
    ├─2*[systemd───(sd-pam)]
    ├─systemd-journal
    ├─systemd-logind
    ├─systemd-udevd───systemd-udevd
    ├─thunderbird─┬─2*[{Analysis Helper}]
    │ ├─{Cache I/O}
    │ ├─{Cache2 I/O}
    │ ├─{Cert Verify}
    │ ├─{DOM Worker}
    │ ├─{Gecko_IOThread}
    │ ├─{HTML5 Parser}
    │ ├─{Hang Monitor}
    │ ├─{JS GC Helper}
    │ ├─{JS Watchdog}
    │ ├─{Network Seer}
    │ ├─{Proxy R~olution}
    │ ├─{Socket Thread}
    │ ├─{Timer}
    │ ├─{URL Classifier}
    │ ├─{dconf worker}
    │ ├─{gdbus}
    │ ├─{gmain}
    │ ├─{localStorage DB}
    │ ├─{mozStorage #1}
    │ ├─{mozStorage #2}
    │ ├─{mozStorage #3}
    │ ├─{mozStorage #4}
    │ ├─{mozStorage #5}
    │ ├─{mozStorage #6}
    │ └─8*[{thunderbird}]
    ├─tumblerd─┬─{gdbus}
    │ ├─{gmain}
    │ └─2*[{pool}]
    ├─udisksd─┬─{cleanup}
    │ ├─{gdbus}
    │ ├─{gmain}
    │ └─{probing-thread}
    ├─upowerd─┬─{gdbus}
    │ └─{gmain}
    ├─wpa_supplicant
    ├─xfce4-panel─┬─panel-1-whisker─┬─{gdbus}
    │ │ └─{gmain}
    │ ├─panel-12-mixer─┬─{gdbus}
    │ │ ├─{task0}
    │ │ ├─{task1}
    │ │ └─{task2}
    │ ├─panel-2-actions
    │ ├─panel-6-systray
    │ ├─{gdbus}
    │ └─{gmain}
    ├─xfce4-power-man───{gdbus}
    ├─xfce4-terminal─┬─bash───bash───pstree
    │ ├─gnome-pty-helpe
    │ ├─{gdbus}
    │ └─{gmain}
    ├─xfconfd
    ├─xfdesktop─┬─{gdbus}
    │ └─{gmain}
    ├─xfsettingsd─┬─{gdbus}
    │ └─{gmain}
    └─xfwm4
    # enabled services
    dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service enabled
    dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service enabled
    display-manager.service enabled
    [email protected] enabled
    NetworkManager-dispatcher.service enabled
    NetworkManager.service enabled
    org.cups.cupsd.service enabled
    sddm.service enabled
    # ssd df
    Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
    /dev/sda2 8.8G 4.8G 3.5G 58% /
    /dev/sda4 63G 12G 48G 20% /home
    # free
    total used free shared buff/cache available
    Mem: 2948 985 805 8 1157 1743
    Swap: 2047 0 2047
    5. Packages removable IMO
    More could be possible based on suggestions, but IMHO and is it safe?:
    |Package Name | Reason |
    |---------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------
    |man-db 2.7.1-1 | For me: Wiki, Google and Forums are > what I need. |
    |man-pages 3.81-1 | For me: Wiki, Google and Forums are > what I need. |
    |xterm | xfce4-terminal is installed so is it needed? |
    |reiserfsprogs | No need for reiser FS support (if it is what package does). |
    |jfsutils | No need for JFS support. |
    |xfsprogs | No need for XFS support. |
    |lvm2 | I think no need for logical VM (but not sure). |
    |mdadm | I think no need for md devices monitoring/managing. ]
    |---------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------
    |xfwm4-themes               | No big fan of theming unless required for XFCE.               |
    |btrfs-progs                     | No need for btrfs support (if it is what package does).      |
    |ipw2100-fw                     | No need for Intel centrino drivers.                                     |
    |ipw2200-fw                     | No need for Intel PRO/wireless.                                          |
    |zd1211-firmware            | I think no need for in-kernel26 zd1211rw wireless driver.  |
    6. Please guide what further can be removed.
    Thank you for time.
    Update: Del packages are already removed based on learning/thread discussion so far.
    Last edited by jackpot (2015-03-25 14:31:31)

    An update
    I managed to reach:
    pacman -Q | wc -l
    475
    From 536, more may be possible but need to learn a bit more. Packages installed now include:
    acl 2.2.52-2
    adwaita-icon-theme 3.14.1-1
    alsa-lib 1.0.29-1
    alsa-utils 1.0.29-1
    archlinux-keyring 20150212-1
    at-spi2-atk 2.14.1-1
    at-spi2-core 2.14.1-1
    atk 2.14.0-1
    attr 2.4.47-1
    avahi 0.6.31-14
    bash 4.3.033-1
    bc 1.06.95-1
    binutils 2.25-2
    bleachbit 1.6-1
    bzip2 1.0.6-5
    ca-certificates 20140923-9
    ca-certificates-cacert 20140824-2
    ca-certificates-mozilla 3.17.4-1
    ca-certificates-utils 20140923-9
    cairo 1.14.2-1
    cantarell-fonts 0.0.16-2
    cdparanoia 10.2-5
    cifs-utils 6.4-1
    colord 1.2.9-1
    compositeproto 0.4.2-3
    coreutils 8.23-1
    cracklib 2.9.1-1
    cups 2.0.2-3
    cups-filters 1.0.67-1
    curl 7.41.0-1
    damageproto 1.2.1-3
    db 5.3.28-2
    dbus 1.8.16-2
    dbus-glib 0.102-2
    dconf 0.22.0-1
    desktop-file-utils 0.22-1
    device-mapper 2.02.116-1
    dhclient 4.3.1-1
    dhcpcd 6.7.1-1
    diffutils 3.3-2
    dropbox 3.2.9-2
    e2fsprogs 1.42.12-2
    elfutils 0.161-3
    eog 3.14.3-1
    epdfview 0.1.8-5
    exempi 2.2.2-1
    exo 0.10.4-2
    expat 2.1.0-4
    fakeroot 1.20.2-1
    file 5.22-1
    file-roller 3.14.2-2
    filesystem 2015.02-1
    findutils 4.4.2-6
    firefox 36.0.4-1
    fixesproto 5.0-3
    flac 1.3.1-1
    fontconfig 2.11.1-1
    fontsproto 2.1.3-1
    foomatic-db-engine 3:20150308-1
    freetype2 2.5.5-1
    fuse 2.9.3-2
    galculator 2.1.3-3
    gamin 0.1.10-8
    garcon 0.4.0-1
    gawk 4.1.1-1
    gc 7.4.2-2
    gcc 4.9.2-4
    gcc-libs 4.9.2-4
    gd 2.1.1-1
    gdbm 1.11-1
    gdk-pixbuf2 2.31.3-1
    gettext 0.19.4-1
    ghostscript 9.15-2
    glib-networking 2.42.1-1
    glib2 2.42.2-1
    glibc 2.21-2
    glu 9.0.0-3
    gmp 6.0.0-2
    gnome-desktop 1:3.14.2-1
    gnome-icon-theme 3.12.0-2
    gnome-icon-theme-symbolic 3.12.0-2
    gnome-themes-standard 3.14.2.3-1
    gnupg 2.1.2-1
    gnutls 3.3.13-1
    gobject-introspection 1.42.0-1
    gpgme 1.5.3-1
    gpm 1.20.7-4
    graphite 1:1.2.4-1
    grep 2.21-2
    groff 1.22.3-2
    grub 1:2.02.beta2-5
    gsettings-desktop-schemas 3.14.1-1
    gstreamer0.10 0.10.36-4
    gstreamer0.10-base 0.10.36-3
    gstreamer0.10-base-plugins 0.10.36-3
    gtk-update-icon-cache 2.24.27-1
    gtk-xfce-engine 2.10.1-1
    gtk2 2.24.27-1
    gtk3 3.14.9-1
    gtksourceview2 2.10.5-3
    guile 2.0.11-2
    gvfs 1.22.3-2
    gzip 1.6-1
    harfbuzz 0.9.38-1
    hicolor-icon-theme 0.13-1
    hplip 3.15.2-3
    hplip-plugin 3.15.2-1
    hunspell 1.3.3-1
    hwids 20150129-1
    iana-etc 2.30-4
    icu 54.1-1
    inetutils 1.9.2-2
    iniparser 3.1-4
    inputproto 2.3.1-1
    iproute2 3.19.0-1
    iptables 1.4.21-1
    iputils 20121221-3
    iso-codes 3.57-1
    jansson 2.7-1
    jasper 1.900.1-13
    js17 17.0.0-1
    json-glib 1.0.2-1
    kbd 2.0.2-1
    kbproto 1.0.6-2
    keyutils 1.5.9-1
    kmod 20-1
    krb5 1.13.1-1
    lcms2 2.6-1
    ldb 1.1.20-1
    less 471-1
    lib32-acl 2.2.52-2
    lib32-attr 2.4.47-1
    lib32-bzip2 1.0.6-2
    lib32-curl 7.41.0-1
    lib32-e2fsprogs 1.42.12-1
    lib32-expat 2.1.0-2
    lib32-fontconfig 2.11.1-1
    lib32-freetype2 2.5.5-1
    lib32-gcc-libs 4.9.2-4
    lib32-gettext 0.19.4-1
    lib32-glib2 2.42.2-1
    lib32-glibc 2.21-2
    lib32-glu 9.0.0-2
    lib32-harfbuzz 0.9.38-1
    lib32-icu 54.1-1
    lib32-keyutils 1.5.9-1
    lib32-krb5 1.13.1-1
    lib32-libcap 2.24-1
    lib32-libdbus 1.8.16-1
    lib32-libffi 3.2.1-1
    lib32-libgcrypt 1.6.3-1
    lib32-libgpg-error 1.18-1
    lib32-libice 1.0.9-1
    lib32-libldap 2.4.40-1
    lib32-libnl 3.2.25-1
    lib32-libpcap 1.6.2-1
    lib32-libpng 1.6.16-1
    lib32-libsm 1.2.2-1
    lib32-libssh2 1.4.3-2
    lib32-libusb 1.0.19-1
    lib32-libx11 1.6.3-1
    lib32-libxau 1.0.8-1
    lib32-libxcb 1.11-1
    lib32-libxcursor 1.1.14-1
    lib32-libxdamage 1.1.4-2
    lib32-libxdmcp 1.1.1-2
    lib32-libxext 1.3.3-1
    lib32-libxfixes 5.0.1-1
    lib32-libxi 1.7.4-1
    lib32-libxml2 2.9.2-1
    lib32-libxrandr 1.4.2-1
    lib32-libxrender 0.9.8-1
    lib32-ncurses 5.9-3
    lib32-nvidia-340xx-libgl 340.76-1
    lib32-nvidia-340xx-utils 340.76-1
    lib32-openssl 1.0.2.a-1
    lib32-pcre 8.36-1
    lib32-readline 6.3.006-1
    lib32-systemd 218-1
    lib32-util-linux 2.25.2-1
    lib32-xz 5.2.1-1
    lib32-zlib 1.2.8-1
    libaio 0.3.110-1
    libarchive 3.1.2-8
    libassuan 2.1.3-1
    libatasmart 0.19-3
    libatomic_ops 7.4.2-1
    libbluray 0.7.0-1
    libbsd 0.7.0-1
    libcap 2.24-2
    libcap-ng 0.7.4-1
    libcddb 1.3.2-4
    libcdio 0.93-1
    libcdio-paranoia 10.2+0.93+1-1
    libcroco 0.6.8-2
    libcups 2.0.2-3
    libdaemon 0.14-3
    libdatrie 0.2.8-1
    libdbus 1.8.16-2
    libdrm 2.4.60-1
    libedit 20141030_3.1-1
    libepoxy 1.2-2
    libevdev 1.4-1
    libevent 2.0.22-1
    libexif 0.6.21-2
    libffi 3.2.1-1
    libfontenc 1.1.2-1
    libgcrypt 1.6.3-2
    libglade 2.6.4-5
    libgpg-error 1.18-1
    libgphoto2 2.5.7-1
    libgusb 0.2.4-1
    libice 1.0.9-1
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    majid khalili wrote:
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    AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ x 2
    Memory 2.7 GB
    Hard drive 149.4 GB
    GPU : nVidia Corp; GT 218 [GeForce 210]
    USB wi-fi card
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    4.048s NetworkManager.service
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    1.479s accounts-daemon.service
    912ms systemd-logind.service
    886ms gdm.service
    679ms polkit.service
    571ms [email protected]
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    547ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
    524ms tmp.mount
    512ms udisks2.service
    475ms sys-kernel-config.mount
    448ms dev-mqueue.mount
    435ms systemd-remount-fs.service
    423ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
    409ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service
    349ms [email protected]
    330ms systemd-sysctl.service
    258ms kmod-static-nodes.service
    254ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
    242ms upower.service
    240ms systemd-journal-flush.service
    218ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
    200ms rtkit-daemon.service
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    108ms systemd-user-sessions.service
    94ms dev-sdb3.swap
    88ms [email protected]
    64ms systemd-update-utmp.service
    60ms systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service
    39ms [email protected]
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    4ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount
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    [ 26.674207] r8169 0000:02:0f.0 enp2s15: link down
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    [ 26.729912] ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Info - Firmware detected - version: 0.29
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