Multi-camera is impossible to use...

Hello guys)...I have one problem - I synchronized video from 2 different cameras using some program and I saved the sequence in APP CS3...
Then I open this project in APP CS5 - but unfortunately I can't use "Multi-camera"...
Who knows - what's a problem?
Proof here:
or - http://imageshack.us/f/535/001ap.png/ ...
I've tried many ways - but no results...Help)))...

Or I turn on Multicam, but APP displays only 1 camera, not 2...
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