Multimapping (1:N) without BPM idoc to file

Hi
I have a scenario in PI7.1 like source is idoc ,it should be splitted into 14 different files based on some condition.
I am doing this without BPM(1:N) message mapping and operational mapping is working fine.
Whent i am testing,empty files are generated means no values comming except the target message type.
Note: checked the most of the links and blogs but no help
Everything seems fine but not getting the values.Can anybody help. Can multimapping done with source idoc?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks
Prasad Nemalikanti

Hi Prasad,
It will definitely work and please see the jin for exactly the same scenario.
/people/jin.shin/blog/2006/02/07/multi-mapping-without-bpm--yes-it146s-possible
While testing in mapping make sure you put your payload within:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<ns0:Messages xmlns:ns0="http://sap.com/xi/XI/SplitAndMerge">
 <ns0:Message1>
 <YOUR PAYLOAD HERE>
 </ns0:Message1>
</ns0:Messages>
Regards,
---Satish

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