Multiple Business groups???

Hi,
I am having very basic question in my mind.
Why do we need to have multiple business groups if the company is working only in US and runnig same set of books?
Or what is the factor which decides definition of multiple business groups?
This question might sounds to be very basic but I am not able to find answer for it.
Regards,
Soham

Soham,
The current best practice configuration model is to use business groups only as legislative containers representing countries, and not to appear as a management reporting structure in the organization hierarchy.
Also see...
Oracle® Human Resources Management Systems
Enterprise and Workforce Management Guide (Global)
Release 11i
Part No. B14467-01
Single and Multiple Business Groups; page 2-14
However, there are reasons for setting up multiple Business Groups in the same
installation, such as the following:
You want to have a copy of your live system with example records for training or
testing purposes.
You are a holding company or a corporation with a number of subsidiary
companies. Each subsidiary has its own structures, employees, and compensation and benefit policies. If your subsidiaries are in different countries you also have to
deal with local legislative requirements.
You are acquiring a company or merging with another company, and you want to
maintain separate structures and compensation and benefits during the transition
process.
Regards,
Greg

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I think you already have another post with the same issue and I have already mentioned the steps to achieve the functionality. It is always recommended to have one post for one issue as it will help others too if they are facing the same issue, try out below steps to achive your requirement
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