Multiple Cost Allocation Structures in Single Business Group

We are curently looking at solution design of creating multiple Cost
allocation flexfield in single business group environment.
Purpose :
Based on organization structure (18 companies) , the finance
consultants proposed multiple COA structures with different
valuesets , wherein values sets will be specific to the companies .
This was suggested inorder to aviod tedious job of defining
validations and post production support.
This has impact on payroll solution design wrt to cost allocation FF ,
where in we have to define multiple structures to map to Accounting
FFs.
Woudl like to check if oracle payroll supports this kind of setups.
Note :The implementation is for UAE localization.
Rgds/Lavanya

If Finance System has multiple COA structures with different valuesets , wherein values sets will be specific to the companies then they will seperating cosing on Various OU Level.
As my understanding, you have to create multiple Business Group as per multiple COA structures .
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If you are going live with one BG and latter you need to convert to a multi Business Group then you need to migrate these data in the current BG to the new BG. this is similar to the Shared HR to Full HR conversion Project
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