My Email to Customer Service

Just popping in to broadcast my dissatisfaction with Creative MP3 players, specifically their Zen Micro.
After 5 years of buying Creative products exclusi'vely, I am very close to moving to the iPOD camp. In the last 2 years, Creative has introduced WAY too many MP3 player variations to the market in an effort to compete with Apple, and it's obvious that they're not testing thoroughly.
For the second time in less than a year, my Zen Micro 5GB needs to be returned for repair or replacement. The process is tedious and in most cases costs between $20 and $50 for shipping and a repair estimate. Luckily the product is still under a year warranty, but not for much longer.
I am posting my email to customer support on this board in hopes that it will draw some extra attention and if nothing else, make people think twice before buying a creative MP3 player. I have given the support and service team one last opportunity with this email to re-establish my trust in their products.
I will post updates to this incident on this forum as they occur.
Below is a copy of the email sent to customer support:
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ATTN: Customer Support.
I am a very frustrated Creative customer. About 3 months ago I returned my Zen Mirco due to a faulty hard dri've. It was replaced and has been working fine until today.
After connecting the Zen Micro to the computer, the battery power icon changes to the charging icon and then the player freezes. The computer never responds or recognizes that the device is connected. If I reboot the player it works fine as long as it is not corrected.
I have the latest versions of firmware/drivers/software installed.
I have the tried disk cleanup and format options of the recovery mode. I have also tried all 4 USB ports of my PC as well as the USB ports on another PC. I have tried multiple cables. I have tried connecting the player to a PC without the drivers installed.
The only thing I HAVEN'T tried is reloading the firmware, which I'm sure will make matters worse.
At this point, I have a player that works as long as it's not connected but now that I've formatted the disk, there's nothing to listen to.
Obviously my only hope is to return the player AGAIN for repair/replacement, but I have to stress that I am starting to lose my patience with Creative products. I have been purchasing Creative MP3 players since the first 6GB jukebox and no player has given me as much trouble as this Zen Micro. Creative is very close to losing another customer to iPOD.
Please let me know how this can be resolved as quickly as possible.
Thank You,
Christopher Bellis
================================================== =========================

I've had similar behaviour from my Zen after updating to latest set of firmware/drivers and ap
ps.
It will not transfer more than 50-60 mp3's before going into a bad lock up that can only be corrected by removing the battery and the player may or may not recover from that. I too have tried install/reinstall, firmware reloads, .x versions and 2.x versions - none of it works on any of the usb ports of 3 different computers. I've had a long exchange with customer support - they have yet to admit there is any issue with the latest firmware/software - my experience shows there has to be - at least when mixed with something that's present on my 3 machines.
My latest email to them reads as follows:
Thanks for the clarification and list of files to install. I've followed through what you said on two different computers and can still produce lock-ups of the Zen when transferring my files. I still suspect there is some bad interaction between the firmware and the driver once a sufficient volume of data has passed through the connection. If I que up 20 songs to transfer, it will do about 60 and lock up.
If I Clean Up and Reboot the Zen it will lock up as soon as the first or 2 songs are tried to be copied over unless I leave it overnight or some long period of time and also reboot the computer.
Is there some internal soft/hard reset that happens with the Zen Micro a few hours after it is last turned off? Is there something happening to the player while it sits there in a Docked State - something like a power-saving feature that's crashing the driver?
I am really frustrated and would like to hear from you that there may be something wrong with the software that will be fixed with a next release - if that's not the case I would like to know how I can return my player. Or perhaps you can ship me the firmware that was originally on the device - I have the old driver that was on the initial CD that came with it.
My device details are:
Model: DAP-MD0004
S/N: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
If I have no luck with that - I am sending the thing back.

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    Creative Labs Americas
    ME: Is it O.K. that I don't know my exact date of purchase? Can I put a rough date or does it matter?
    I would like to send my player is to get fixed but under a few conditions that you can assure me will be followed.
    . The hard dri've will WILL NOT be replaced and I WILL NOT be charged $0.
    2. I will be contacted before anything you replace that will cost me more than the original $25 fee.
    Is this alright? email me back.
    I appreciate your help, thanks.
    CREATIVE: Dear Brian,
    Thank you for contacting Creative E-mail Support.
    I understand you have some questions regarding your products warranty
    coverage, and the RMA process.
    In order for the product to be considered under warranty you will have
    to supply a copy of the original retail sales receipt with the date of
    purchase, product purchased and the place it was purchased from. If
    the product is sent in without a copy of a original retail sales receipt
    with that information the product will be deemed out of warranty. The
    minimum out of warranty fee is 25. USD which only reflects labor cost.
    In the event that a part needs to be replaced there will be additional
    parts fees based on the problem you have described the Hard dri've your
    Zen MicroPhoto will likely need to be replaced the cost for hard dri've
    replacement out of warranty is 0. USD for your product. This price
    reflects parts and labor. It is recommended that you send a check or
    money order for the full amount with your Zen MicroPhoto. In the event
    that you do not send a check or money order for the out of warranty fees
    a Creative Representati've will e-mail you to arrange payment prior to
    making any repairs or replacing the player. In the event you do not pay
    the out of warranty cost the player will be dispositioned by the RMA
    department.
    Let us know if you have any additional questions or concerns.
    If you still require assistance, please reply to this email with any
    previous correspondence to ensure the quickest and most accurate
    service.
    Best Regards,
    Technical Support
    Creative Labs Americas
    So basically, if I send in my player I will pretty much be charged $0...which is pointless because there is no way I am paying that.
    I stumbled upon this is site http://www.zenrepair.com/Zen/index.jsp and I may consider trying them. What do you guys think about Creatives service?
    Has anyone ever heard of or tried that Zen service site before?
    *Please remove the names of our advisors before posting support emails. Dale-CLMessage Edited by Dale-CL on 09-23-2007 :06 AM

    Hi,
    I am trying to get Adobe to rerelease the software and registration number for my CS4 suite but my email & ID has changed from [email protected] to [email protected] for some reason the ID link now says I am in the US not Australia. I get the same message:
    To change your country, contact Customer Service.
    But that has not been possible online.
    Do you have an email contact for them please?
    I only want the dreamweaver and adobe pdf creator & editing software but the links on US site don't work either.
    I already paid for the whole suite a few years back so don't want to pay again after I had to replace a HDD in a windows 7 machine.
    So do I send a letter via Australia Post to:
    Adobe Systems Pty. Ltd.
    Tower 2, Level 27
    201 Sussex Street
    Sydney, NSW 2000
    Australia
    Tel: +61 2 9778 4100
    or how about technology that was 300+ years old and FAX'em
    Fax: +61 2 9778 4190
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