N5K FCoE direct attachment storage conf sample

I am looking for a configuration sample of two N5K's connecting directly to a single storage device (direct attachment) using at least 2 VSANs, looking specifically for the zoning configuration. This will be a temporary solution while MDS ports are not available for the new enviromment. Please, share any simple configuration using the presented scenario: 2 N5K's, 2 EXS hosts (1000V), 2 VSANs, 2 Zones, and single storage (ie.: N-series). Thank you!

Hello,
For the first question, it is NOT supported.
It might work if we enable default zoning but it is not recommended.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/unified_computing/ucs/sw/gui/config/guide/2.0/b_UCSM_GUI_Configuration_Guide_2_0_chapter_0101.html#concept_05717B723C2746E1A9F6AB3A3FFA2C72
The next major release is expected to support direct attach storage.
Padma

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  • Using a ethernet external Maxtor Hard Drive (Network Attached Storage)

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