Negative time management to positive time management

Hi Experts
our client is following negative time management now. They would
like to implement positive time management from now onwards.
please suggest how i'll do this for my client.
Thanks

Hi,
Firstly, your client has to decide how the entry exit timings of the employees are going to be captured, and then load them into SAP. The timevents will be updated in IT2011.
One way is to have a third party capture all the events from recording terminals located on the site, have a RFC to get these events to SAP. The time events can then be uploaded into the infotype table TEVEN (IT2011). These programs shud also be scheduled in the backgrnd to run either daily or after sum intervals of time.
In config,
You will have to change the groupings of PS & EE for time recording,
Change the time management status for these employees,
change the feature TMSTA to default the same status for new employees to be hired.
Maintain IT0050 for all employees. (necessary for +ve time)
Change the grouping for Attendance / Absence types
Have to check whether system reactions for time pair formations in system are as per clients requirements
Modify the time mangement schema (with clock times) according to the requirement.
Schedule a background job so that time evaluation is run for all employees once a day. (usually scheduled during the night)
These are some of the changes that I can think about right now hope this is helpful.
Regards,
Shreyasi.

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