New Extreme/Express updates & ADSL X-Modem

Hi all,
I have had so many prolems since the failed 5.6 update that I wondered whether to install the 5.7/6/3 at all when news greeted me this morning that it was out. Well, I thought it cant get any worse so went ahead and installed it. Incidentally I use the ADSL X-Modem CE for UK broadband access and this combination has proved to be particularly problematic.
Early results are the installation has gone without a hitch and............. I am connected with no problems! Fingers crossed and this has sorted out the horrendous Airport transmission problems as the signal never did get back to normal after the move back to 5.5.1
Looking at the Airport Client Monitor and the transmission rate is also nice and high at 54mps with just a blip or two. This compares to regular views under the previous setup where the transmission chart resembled a mountain range.
I will test it extensively today but so far, for owners of the ADSL Nation modem, all seems fine.
Fingers crossed!
Regards
Michael

Thanks guys, you just saved me £120. I was about to buy a AEBS off the Apple store online and I certainly don't think it's clear that you have to have a modem as well to make this work. I'd just assumed that I could replace my old Netgear ADSL DG834G wireless router with an AEBS and get a superfast network but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Scanning through these posts it seems like there might be a workaround where I can utilise the existing router - but what's the point? I can get a new Netgear DG834N for £85. I don't mind paying a premium for Apple products but it's either pay £120 for the AEBS, have to set up two routers and have them both lying around with the only advantage being the AirDisk (the only feature I'd really like) or £85 for a simple replacement but with no AirDisk.
I'm not sure that AirDisk is worth £120.
I notice that the Netgear DG834N isn't available in the US - does this mean that US and UK routers are different?
Whilst we're on the US/UK thing - when are movies going to be available on itunes? and what about the iphone - if it's 2.5G and only a 2MP camera, and can't support Java apps (I use the Gmail and Sky By Mobile apps all the time) forget it. It's got to be better than my K800i, then I'd buy one 'in a heartbeat'
Come on Apple - please remember there are non-US customers who WANT to spend money buying your stuff!
MacBook Pro Mac OS X (10.4.8)

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kayek wrote:
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