No accrual amounts in VA88

Hi,
I am getting the information " No accruals amounts in the sales order" while executing the application in VA88.
I doing the process like this:
1. Creation of sales order
2. Convertion of sales order to production order
3. Goods issue to Production order
4. Production order confirmation
5. Goods Receipt
6. Billing document
7. Sales order settlment - va88
is it correct process or if yes why it is giving the information like this.
please guide me in this regard
sateesh

I got the solution.
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