NTFS partition: Files auto deleted by Windows [SOLVED]

I am dual booting with Win7. I copy some files to NTFS partition so that I can access them from Windows. But what I see after I boot into Windows, those files are either deleted or are corrupted (a few hundred megs file is just a few kB now) !!!
This is really frustrating as I lost several files, though not all as some files remain as they were in Arch. I have NTFS-3G installed, and use HAL hot-plug mounting to access the NTFS drive.
Any ideas what is going wrong here ? Thanks.
Last edited by shemz (2010-05-04 21:45:30)

Its just another partition on the same drive where my arch ext4 partition exists. For a moment I thought its a problem with hibernation. So this time I copied a file to the NTFS partition and did a complete shutdown from linux. Now both windows and linux are in shutdown state, none in hibernation. I booted into windows, the file is again gone.
Then I checked into this folder Found.000. And one of my missing files is here. This prompted me to check if M$ has found a new way to keep (force) people away from linux. I found somewhere on the web that by default in Win7 the check disk utility checks for file system consistency at each boot (I think it would just check for either time stamps or directory structure).
So for now I have disabled automatic disk checking in Windows. Will do a few more test boots to see it solves the problem. Thanks again.
Edit: Few test reboots and all seems fine. Its a windows problem.
Last edited by shemz (2010-05-04 21:43:29)

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Aug 29 07:57:37 b0x systemd[1]: Job hwclock.service/start failed with result 'dependency'.
Aug 29 07:57:37 b0x systemd[1]: Job syslog-ng.service/start failed with result 'dependency'.
Aug 29 07:57:37 b0x systemd[1]: Job network.service/start failed with result 'dependency'.
Aug 29 07:57:37 b0x systemd[1]: Job cronie.service/start failed with result 'dependency'.
Aug 29 07:57:37 b0x systemd[1]: Job snmpd.service/start failed with result 'dependency'.
Aug 29 07:57:37 b0x systemd[1]: Job samba.service/start failed with result 'dependency'.
Aug 29 07:57:37 b0x systemd[1]: Job webmin.service/start failed with result 'dependency'.
Aug 29 07:57:37 b0x systemd[1]: Job systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer/start failed with result 'dependency'.
Aug 29 07:57:37 b0x systemd-journal[181]: Journal stopped
Aug 29 07:57:37 b0x systemd-journal[584]: Journal started
Aug 29 07:57:37 b0x ntfs-3g[568]: Unmounting /dev/sdb1 (Win7-sys)
Aug 29 07:57:37 b0x systemd-udevd[224]: '/usr/sbin/alsactl restore 0' [500] terminated by signal 15 (Terminated)
Aug 29 07:57:38 b0x systemd[1]: Startup finished in 3s 111ms 648us (kernel) + 6s 425ms 155us (userspace) = 9s 536ms 803us.
Aug 29 07:57:38 b0x systemd[582]: Failed at step EXEC spawning /bin/plymouth: No such file or directory
Aug 29 07:58:25 b0x systemd[1]: Cannot add dependency job for unit avani-dnsconfd.service, ignoring: Unit avani-dnsconfd.service failed to load: No such file or directory. See system lo...e' for details.
Aug 29 07:58:25 b0x systemd[1]: Socket service syslog.service not loaded, refusing.
Aug 29 07:58:26 b0x arch-modules-load[609]: mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/run/modules-load.d’: File exists
Aug 29 07:58:26 b0x systemd-modules-load[706]: Module 'vhba' is already loaded
Aug 29 07:58:26 b0x systemd-modules-load[706]: Module 'fuse' is already loaded
Aug 29 07:58:26 b0x systemd-fsck[646]: public: clean, 385878/2039808 files, 5060668/8159011 blocks
Aug 29 07:58:26 b0x systemd-fsck[653]: VM: clean, 228/5677056 files, 5637221/22680575 blocks
Aug 29 07:58:26 b0x systemd-fsck[644]: Home: clean, 90204/1327104 files, 984778/5305458 blocks
Aug 29 07:58:26 b0x ntfs-3g[871]: Version 2012.1.15 external FUSE 29
Aug 29 07:58:26 b0x ntfs-3g[871]: Mounted /dev/sdb1 (Read-Write, label "Win7-sys", NTFS 3.1)
Aug 29 07:58:26 b0x ntfs-3g[871]: Cmdline options: rw,gid=100,fmask=113,dmask=002
Aug 29 07:58:26 b0x ntfs-3g[871]: Mount options: rw,allow_other,nonempty,relatime,fsname=/dev/sdb1,blkdev,blksize=4096,default_permissions
Aug 29 07:58:26 b0x ntfs-3g[871]: Global ownership and permissions enforced, configuration type 7
Aug 29 07:58:26 b0x ntfs-3g[871]: Warning : using problematic uid==0 and gid!=0
Here is the entry in /etc/fstab for this partition:
## Entry for /dev/sdb1 SYSTEM:(Win7)
UUID=44083B9668A3E0CC /media/Win7 ntfs-3g gid=users,fmask=113,dmask=002 0 0
I have been all over goggle & am unable to find out anything which can help.
As stated before I have links to this partition & so really want/need this partition to be mounted at boot.
Any help on this will be greatly appreciated
Thanks in advance
EDIT #1
rebooted again, still the same happening
ran:
$ sudo mount -l
proc on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
dev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,nosuid,relatime,size=3022708k,nr_inodes=755677,mode=755)
run on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,mode=755)
/dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered) [Arch-sys]
securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000)
tmpfs on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,mode=755)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,release_agent=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd-cgroups-agent,name=systemd)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpuset type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpuset)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu,cpuacct type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpuacct,cpu)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/memory type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,memory)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/devices type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,devices)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/freezer type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,freezer)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/net_cls type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,net_cls)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/blkio type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,blkio)
systemd-1 on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type autofs (rw,relatime,fd=30,pgrp=1,timeout=300,minproto=5,maxproto=5,direct)
debugfs on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw,relatime)
mqueue on /dev/mqueue type mqueue (rw,relatime)
hugetlbfs on /dev/hugepages type hugetlbfs (rw,relatime)
fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw,relatime)
tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime)
/dev/sdb3 on /media/wine type ext4 (rw,noatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered) [wine] <<<THIS SHOULD NOT BE HERE!<<<<<<<<<
/dev/sdd1 on /media/spare2 type ext4 (rw,noatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered) [spare2] <<<THIS SHOULD NOT BE HERE!<<<<<<<<<<
/dev/sdc1 on /media/spare type ext4 (rw,noatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered) [spare] <<<THIS SHOULD NOT BE HERE!<<<<<<<<<<<
/dev/sde1 on /media/USB-HDD2 type vfat (rw,noatime,sync,gid=100,fmask=0002,dmask=0002,allow_utime=0020,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro) [USB-HDD2] <<<<<THIS IS NORMAL
/dev/sdb4 on /media/pac type ext4 (rw,noatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered) [pac] <<<THIS SHOULD NOT BE HERE!
/dev/sdd1 on /media/Spare2 type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered) [spare2] <<<<<THIS IS NORMAL
/dev/sdc1 on /media/Spare type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered) [spare] <<<<<THIS IS NORMAL
/dev/sdb2 on /media/VM type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered) [VM] <<<<<THIS IS NORMAL
/dev/sdb3 on /var/wine type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered) [wine] <<<<<THIS IS NORMAL
/dev/sdb4 on /var/cache/pacman type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered) [pac] <<<<<THIS IS NORMAL
/dev/sdb1 on /media/Win7 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096) [Win7-sys] <<<<<THIS IS NORMAL
/dev/sda3 on /public type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered) [public] <<<<<THIS IS NORMAL
/dev/sda5 on /home type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered) [Home] <<<<<THIS IS NORMAL
gvfs-fuse-daemon on /run/user/1000/gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=100)
binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,relatime)
gvfs-fuse-daemon on /root/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0)
as you can see my partitions are being mounted TWICE which is not what I want or expected!
is there more documentation on what systemd does with mounts that could explain why i have multiple mount points for partitions or is this due to systemd discovering my partitions & mounting them at points based on label names & then parsing my FSTAB as well!
I have read the wikki but there is very small info there & the links have not provided an explanation for this unwanted behaviour
EDIT #2
>>>>>>>>>>>SOLVED<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
not an NTFS or FUSE issue
I had previously installed mnttools!
removed & now all is well
sorry
Last edited by t0m5k1 (2012-08-29 08:30:11)

OK,
After being spurred on to try to do this thing properly, this is what I came up with today.
My fstab line (for a USB NTFS disk):
/dev/sdb1 /media/samsung ntfs-3g noauto,users,rw,nodev 0 0
Then I created the /media/samsung folder and gave the audio group read/write permissions.
It seems that non-root users can only mount an ntfs partition if they use a version of ntfs-3g with fuse included, so I replaced ntfs-3g with the version from AUR, having removed from the PKGBUILD file the option "-with-fuse=external" (see this thread: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=44844 ). I also had to set
the ntfs-3g binary to setuid-root, dealt with here: http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g … privileged (note- the instructions say this is discouraged, but it seems using ntfs partitions in linux requires some compromises).
I can now mount the drive as an ordinary user.
Then I set mpd back to run as user mpd, checked the audio group had access to all the mpd folders, and all was well.
One hiccup which you might not have: mpd was unable to access my (external) sound card at first. To solve this one, I used
chmod 770 /dev/snd -R && chgrp audio /dev/snd -R
As far as I can remember, that's everything.
Last edited by Henry Flower (2010-04-20 12:54:26)

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