Operating temps and gaming FPS

I just purchased the new Macbook Pro non-retina version with an upgraded 2.7ghz CPU. I use this macbook for Graphic Design programs from Adobe as well as occasional gaming. I downloaded a temperature gauge as an app so I have an indication as to how hot the cpu is getting while gaming. It seems that the cpu was reaching temperatures of around 90c while running Starcraft II and occasionally the FPS would drop from a steady 59fps to 29fps. What is the issue for my frames going down like that? And are those temperatures normal?

Alex9386 wrote:
It seems that the cpu was reaching temperatures of around 90c while running Starcraft II and occasionally the FPS would drop from a steady 59fps to 29fps. What is the issue for my frames going down like that? And are those temperatures normal?
If you bought a model of MacBook Pro without the additional ATI or Nvida video graphics, then your only using the low end Intel HD 3000 or 4000 processor run graphics and if your CPU over heats there is built in throttling to reduce the load and thus the heat.
If you do have the higher end graphics, then head to Energy Saver and use high performance graphics, this will avoid the CPU graphics.
Run a Hardware check #3 here and if it says anything write it down and take it in for service.
It's normal for the machine to heat up while gaming, but it seems to be maxing out at near 200º F thus the CPU throttling and frame rate drop for some reason.
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