P43 Neo-F (MS-7519-020): ZOTAC Synergy GeForce GTX 460

Hello everyone,
I was wondering if my P43 Neo-F (MS-7519-020) is compatible with the ZOTAC Synergy GeForce GTX 460.
Thank you!

Quote from: Kenjutsu on 17-November-11, 12:14:11
Yes, thats true. I will be upgrading from a 480w to a 600w PSU as well.
Probably, you can share with us the model that you will be looking at before you spend the money to buy it.
At the same time, try to look out for Bernhard's recommendation. Those are reliable PSU series.

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*Solved* MSI P43 Neo-F DPC Latency Issue - Latest BIOS Fix

Hi, I'd like to avail of the latest BIOS fix for the DPC latency problem on my MSI P43 Neo-F (MS-7519) 1.0.
I'm currently using BIOS 1.9, I haven't flashed to 1.A yet. Does 1.A include a fix or is there another BIOS that's as up-to-date as 1.9 or 1.A that would have the fix, with any links to download? I'm thinking along the lines of the A7519ICI.1xx series, whatever is the latest.
Thanks in advance.
EDIT: I have contacted MSI at http://ocss.msi.com.tw/
I don't suppose there is any links to the latest A7519ICI.1xx BIOS that I can avail of outside of the private MSI FTP server?

Thanks all for the advice.
OK, so here's the story. I couldn't relax with those voltages showing up as they were, so I flashed my BIOS to A7519IMS.1A0 (1.A), which is the latest public release for the P43 Neo-F. I was previously on A7519IMS.190 (1.9) before today.
When I flashed to A7519ICI.104, I noticed the version number was actually 1.10B4 (which I'm guessing can actually be expressed as 1.AB4 - a beta version for the latest public release, 1.A). The flash to A7519ICI.104 solved the DPC Latency issue, as when I used A7519IMS.190 (1.9) it was spiking.
There is a happy ending. The flash to A7519IMS.1A0 (1.A) has also shown no spikes in the DPC Latency test. It seems the fix must be present in the latest public release BIOS for the P43 Neo-F after-all!
This screen-shot was taken just a moment ago, proof that the issue has been resolved without a modified BIOS:
Hope this helps anyone else out who is using the same motherboard and experiencing the same issues. Just get the latest public BIOS. No hassle!
http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1484
Please make sure that your motherboard is in-fact the MSI P43 Neo-F (MS-7519) before you flash the BIOS with any of the ones contained within the link above

New machine: P43 Neo F and Q9550, OS doesn't load, keeps rebooting

Hello
I've just built this pc:
MSI P43 Neo-F (MS 7519 ver 1.2)
Q9550
HD4850X2 2GB
2X2GB PNY X8LR 800mhz 4-4-4-12
Corsair TX650W
Old 80GB IDE HD
New 500GB SATA HD
As soon as I turn the PC on I notice that there is something wrong with the images, some letters are missing, weird colors, strange symbols. Anyway, I press "del", the processor is correctly identified, as well as the ammount of RAM, and both hard drives. The 500GB is complety empty and the other one has XP 32bit. The problem is that XP doesn't load. I keep getting the screen saying that something happened ast time, and ask me to choose safe mode, normal mode, etc. It doesn't matter what I choose, because about 10-15 seconds later I'm back to the "welcome" screen, and then safe mode/normal mode, and so on... Also, all screens have those weird symbols and missing letters...
The old HD still works perfectly on my old computer, as well as the PSU. These are the only components that I can test on my old machine.
What could be the problem here? Video card? My old card (6800 ultra) is AGP so can't test it here...

Installing XP on the new HD didn't fix the problem. Actually, I was able to install it and logon to Windows, but the strange graphic artifacts were still there. I installed the board drivers, then the GPU drivers, rebooted the PC... and that's when all hell broke loose. The graphic artics were a bit different now, with small red and white squares all over the screen. windows telling me that a serious error occured, the GPU control panel also with a serious error, and the computer rebooting by itself, then the same messages, rebooting, messages.......
So I returned the 4850 and purchased a different GPU (Powercolor HD4890 PCS+) and everything works now :D
Not sure if this board doesn't like the 4850x2 (a few years ago I had a board that didn't work with one particular card, the Radeon 9700 pro, everything else worked, ie. 9800 Pro, etc) or if the GPU is broken, but for now I don't care. The 4850 is a bit better than the 4890, but the one I purchased is overclocked so the difference should be irrelevant.

P43-Neo - MSI 7519 won't work at 1066 Mhz.

RAM problem: P43-Neo - MSI 7519 won't work at 1066 Mhz.
Bios: 1.3
memory: OCZ Intel Optimized Titanium PC 8500, 2 gb ( kit of 2)
Proc: E6550
PSU : Coolermaster 520 watt
1 stick at a time runs on 1066. (Tested only in DIMMslot 1)
2 sticks run max 833, but not stable.800 mhz is ok.
timing 5-5-5-15-54.
RAM 2.1 volt, NB 1.40-1.45

Quote from: wim-nl on 08-August-08, 21:36:35
No, does not boot !
Update the BIOS to v1.4 and try again.
If you cannot reach 1000MHz, you have to replace those "Intel Optimized" Intergalactic DDR2-800 modules.

[P43 Neo-F] No Pci-e Frequency option in BIOS??

Hi..
I am using a MSI P43 Neo F Board(MS-7519).
Now I am facing the FSB Wall problem of this board and the only solution I have found is to increase Pci-e frequency to 104 as suggested by the main topic about this problem on this forum. But the problem is that there is no pci-e frequency option in my bios. Bios is latest as confirmed by live update software but there is no such option.
Can anyone help me on that?why is that I have the same model but not the same options??

Quote from: Adiel on 13-April-11, 04:02:00
You have not used P43 Neo F I suppose, that mobo does not go above 400 or 415 fsb, search the internet, its a common problem, and the only solution is the one i posted. But why is that the bios of my mobo does not have this option??
Its most likely because the parts are not the same and even if they were they wouldn't work the same.
Like he mentioned already, it works for some and not for others. Its a fickle thing, it isn't a matter of "oh hes better so it works" its more like "his CPU's die isn't as f-ed up as yours is". Something along those lines.

MSI P43 Neo series FSB wall?

After messing about quite a bit with this board with various CPU's and Memory, reading comments by other users and OC'ers on other boards, it seems I've come to the bottom of the problem with my Memory / CPU issue's on my board.
First once again: the used hardware
Board:MSI 7519 V1.0 P43 Neo-F mainboard
CPU: Intel E6550 / E6600
Cooler: Scythe Mine rev. B, stock fan (100mm @ 1500rpm)
Memory: 2GB kit G.E.I.L. DDR2 800 cl5 "black dragon"
4GB Corsair XMS2 pc8500 "dominator"
2 x 1GB OCZ pc9200 900mhz "Special OPS" (not a kit)
2x 512mb Hynix 667mhz cl4 OEM memory (not a kit)
Graphics card: MSI X1550, MSI 9600GT 512 OC
PSU: LC power 650W ATX 2.02 PSU / Raptox 550W ATX 2.01 PSU
OS: Windows Vista SP1 x64 UK
I've tried BIOS 1.3 and 1.6 (final versions only)
Memory shows to be in "asymetric dual channel mode" in every piece of software you trow at it. However, preformance is good.
Both Jumpers have been removed from the board, setting it to "333-400 mhz mode".
CE1, Spread spectrum, Speedstep and "OC boost modes" are disabled.
Memory is on auto (which results in 5-5-5-15) at 2.1V
MCP voltage is on 1.100 (since I don't want it to go over for no reason)
CPU core is at 1.375V in bios, resulting in 1.356~1.378V in CPUZ and Coretemp. (varies with every boot)
I've tried with both my E6550 and a borrowed E6600, but for some reason, the board will not pass it's POST at any FSB higher than 415mhz.
(resulting in 830mhz DDR2, and a 2904mhz for the E6550 and 3733mhz for the E6600 (at 1.388V))
This all makes me wish I got the older E6600 instead, eventhough it gets quite hot. Which brings me to the topic of temps: E6550 OC after 1 hour Orthos = 54degrees. (and 33 / 39 idle) For some reason, Windows prefers core2, which Idle's a lot higher (39) than core1.(33)
The E6600 got to the awefully high temperature of 68 degrees after 2 hours Orthos.
But now the issue: As soon as I pop the FSB to 416, 417 or 420, the system will no longer boot, and I will get the "OC failed" message after shutting the power down.
I've read quite a few reviews and many people seem to encouter these problems. Boards with same chipsets, seem to go to quite a bit higher. (435 being the worst one in the same price range: the Gigabyte DS3 P43 version.)
Am I overlooking something? Would more voltage sort these problems? (I already went a bit overboard just to test)
Are there settings I'm missing?
Any help would be greatly appriciated!!!

Quote from: skip741 on 15-October-08, 05:46:56
Hi Unicron, read ur post and thought id give you some feedback.Im the guy who originally posted the 417fsb wall thread.I beleve these boards with the p43 chipset Do indeed have something going on which limits the higher fsb speeds seen by p45 series. Id be interested to hear if Any one with a p43 version msi board has achieved speeds beyond 415-417. I know the p45 chipsets have gotten thru the 500fsb barrier.I had tried Every bios available for my p43 neo3-f board and EVERY possible bios setting and yet never got beyond that 417 limitation. Voltages raised in cell menu have No effect on getting thru it. board is strong and stable Up to that point, then 1 mhz beyond there is no post or freezing as it enters desktop.Ultimately after spending 3 weeks intensive trying everything and scouring every forum and msi tech for advice, to no avail, i just gave up on it and returned my board to manufacturer. I purchased another brand of board and went right thru that fsb wall with same hardware and cpu.i was able to achieve 535fsb no problem. I had tried to post "which" board i went with before on this forum but was censored heavily for trying to do so. I guess such sharing is Not allowed. Moderators take that as promoting "other" manufacturers boards and frown on it.My intent was only to share what i learned and help others. So i have to keep that info to myself sadly.. anyway thats my 2 cents, my name is Paul. good luck !
Yes, I think we discovered the same thing:
The MSI P43 Neo boards don't go over 414, 415 or 417mhz FSB.
Nor do various other brands. I must say I haven't found/read about a P43 board that does. But I guess if you claim there 's such a board, it must exist.
I'm done looking. Next time I'll buy a higher end board. Low end CPU + Low end board OC isn't a very good idea. I should've gone with a X48 MSI DDR2 board + E9650.

Help! Is my P43 NEO mobo the problem?

Forgive me for being a novice. I don't really know what to do.
I built a new computer with the following
MSI P43 Neo (MS-7519) BIOS V1.3 (A7519IMS)
ATI Radeon HD 4830
2GB OCZ DDRAM2.
Seagate SATA Hard Drive.
LG DVD RW.
Intel E5200
It blue screened every time I tried to play 3D games, with ATI2DVAG.dll error. I updated all the ATI drivers, but it didn't work.
So I sent the Radeon card back.
Worried that the Mobo wasn't compatible with that card, I bought a ATI Radeon HD4850 instead.
Now I get a ATI3DVAG.dll error whenever I try to play 3D games.
Are ATI cards just not compatable with this motherboard? Or is it my memory? Or something else? Do I flash the BIOS.
I'm running WIN XP. I was on Service pack 2, but upgraded to service pack 3 to try and fix the problem.
Nothing works. That's two cards now, and I still can't play 3D games. It usually crashes within minutes.When the computer boots up and the MSI logo is shown, it makes two beeps. It didn't do this with the last card, but now it does. Does that mean it's the memory?
Any ideas? I don't know where to go from here.

Check your memory with memtest86+ and if no errors are found and the system is stable, please update your BIOS to the latest version. >>Use the MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<<

P43 Neo F - no sound device

I have a P43 Neo F board , XP proffessional SP3
Recently my sound device (Realtek) has dissapeared and there is no sound in the computer.
In the Device Manager ther is a PCI device with yellow question (?) mark and no drivers installed.
Under Details of the PCI I have VEN_8086&DEV_3A3E&SUBSYS_75191462
From what I found on the net this is a HD audio device - but I couldn't find drivers for it
I tried to install/update drivers - but the system doesn't find them.
Tried to reinstall Realtek driver - it didn't t change anything
Upgraded Intel drivers - no success
Please help !!!

Quote from: Svet on 13-April-09, 08:54:41
Go to device manager, then expand "System Devices", and locate "MS UAA bus" Right click over it, then click "Disable".
Reboot and enter in "Safe Mode", {hit "F8" just after bios post screen}
Once done go to device manager then expand "System Devices", and locate "MS UAA bus" Right click over it, then click "Un-install".
Reboot PC, then run Realtek driver installation again.
If problem persist use:
>>> Unknown Devices 1.4.20 Beta with updated ID lists <<<
Thanks Svet
Still no solution ....
But I don't see any "MS UAA bus" under the System devices
What will be the effet of the "UKD_14-20_Beta_updated_july_08.exe " that you provided link to ?
Computer Info
Chipset:
Computer Name: DAN-DESKTOP-MSI
OS: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 3, v.5657 (OEM)
Device Tree
Other devices
PCI Device
Intel Corporation HD Audio Controller
Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI)
Windows Description - PCI Device
* Hardware ID - VEN_8086&DEV_3A3E&SUBSYS_75191462&REV_00
* Device Category (Class) - Other devices
* Enumerator - PCI
* Detected Chip Vender - Intel Corporation
* Detected Chip Device - HD Audio Controller
* Detected Vender - Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI)
* Detected Device - <unknown, id=7519>
* Device Status Flags - Detected, Unknown, Present, Not Phantom, Category Visable

Need help guide overclocking newbie msi p43 neo

Hello i just wanted to ask for guide help tutorial ( no OC experience) on how to do a mild overclock my cpu e7400 + (msi p43 neo) my main goal is 3.0 Ghz with a 1333 fsb. Im still researching guides but its still a bit complicated. My concerns are on the bios high incriments on the cpu voltage adjuster i can only adjust with increments of 1.141 next is 1.441 then 1.641 is it too high? i am using the default bios. Im not planning on adjusting my memory its at 800 Mhz
ATM at the bios i can see my default fsb is at 266 x 10.5 = 2.8 Ghz my plan is adjusting it to 286 x 10.5 = 3.03 Ghz.
My question is how will i raise the fsb to 1333? by adjusting the fsb on the bios am i only adjusting the cpu clock? and is the cpu voltage same as the vcore( the thing they adjust when OCing ) which i cant locate on the bios only cpu voltage..
And as a backup plan if all fails when trying to OC flashing bios is the right thinkg to do?
really srry if this is the wrong place to post. If theres any links(guides) with pics same bios you can give would be a tremendous help. thx

Hi,
just a few first comments, so that you don't get onto the wrong track:
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by adjusting the fsb on the bios am i only adjusting the cpu clock?
The FSB Frequency is the base frequency for both the CPU Frequency and the memory frequency. The CPU Frequency is always calculated like this:
(real) FSB Clock Speed x CPU Ratio/Mutiplier = CPU Frequency
The Memory Frequency is adjusted via the FSB/DRAM Ratio Option. If the FSB Frequency is set to 266 MHz the memory will run @DDR2-800 if the FSB/DRAM Ratio is set to 1:1l5...:
266 MHz FSB x 1.5 = 400 MHz (= DDR2-800 effectively)
When you raise the FSB Frequency you have to make sure that the FSB/DRAM Ratio you have set in BIOS will not overclock your memory beyond its specifications. It is not a good idea to leave the FSB/DRAM Ratio set to "AUTO" when you are overclocking.
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My concerns are on the bios high incriments on the cpu voltage adjuster i can only adjust with increments of 1.141 next is 1.441 then 1.641 is it too high?
Have you browsed through all the values the BIOS allows you to set in order to check if there are other values available? Setting the CPU Voltage to 1.441 or 1.641 is not really something you should do. 1.441V is already quite high but 1.641V is definately too much. Leave the CPU Voltage on AUTO for now and see how far you can get without adjusting the CPU Voltage (check the actual Voltage with CPU-Z).
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and is the cpu voltage same as the vcore
Yes.
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my default fsb is at 266 x 10.5 = 2.8 Ghz my plan is adjusting it to 286 x 10.5 = 3.03 Ghz.
You probably won't need to increase any critical voltage levels for that. This is a really, really moderate overclock. Just see what happens if you adjust the FSB Clock Speed to 286 MHz without changing anything else in BIOS (well, keep Spread Spectrum and DOT disabled at all times when you overclock),
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And as a backup plan if all fails when trying to OC flashing bios is the right thinkg to do?
No, that is definately the wrong thing to do. If the system refuses to start after you changed certain BIOS Options, clear CMOS with main A/C power cable removed from your PSU. This will erase all settings and make the BIOS prompt you to reset everything.

[SOLVED] Very strange P43 Neo-F + sata drive problem in vista...

Well I'd been running Windows 7 flawlessly apart from a few non-related motherboard problems, so I decided to install Vista.
Basically my main OS drive (sata) is always detected, but then occasionally (more often than not) my secondary sata drives will simply not be listed in device manager once the system is booted up. Now, I've seen this problem before, and it was sorted by right clicking 'my computer' going to 'manage' and setting the drives up to be detected. But this simply isn't the case here.They don't appear anywhere!
It sometimes sorts itself out once I click 'Scan for hardware changes' in device manager and they magically appear as if ive just plugged in a USB device, which is fine I guess...but each time it swaps the damn drive letters around! So having media library's in Winamp, etc or putting a shortcut toolbar to my music on the taskbar is all but pointless!
All of my hardware apart from Bluetooth has drivers installed for it, and nothing seems to be conflicting at all. Does anyone have any idea why this is
happening? because in all my years of computing I've never seen something as strange as this...
As far as I know I have the latest Intel INF drivers installed (9.0.0.1011)
This is the board: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/148024

I can't see how it'd be PSU because Win7 was just fine...but here it is...
PSU: OCZ XStream 600W PSU
100~240Vac 10-5A 50/60Hz
+3.3V(36A), +5V(30A), +12V1(18A), +12V2(18A), +12V3(18A), +12V4(18A)
Specs:
Dual Core E5200 2.5GHz
4GB Corsair RAM + 2GB OCZ RAM
nVidia GeForce 9600 GT
MSI P43 Neo-F
Not detected (at Vista startup) drives:
Hitachi HDP725050GLA360
ST3320620AS
(they show up perfectly fine in DOS, but I remember only the drive below appeared during Vista setup drive options...)
Detected Primary OS drive:
WDC WD800JD-00LUA0
My drives in BIOS are set to IDE mode (which has always been fine for me in the past). I set it to AHCI Mode to check if it boots but it just sticks on the same screen (flashing underscore). I'm sure it's driver related but I'm totally out of options now...you'd think installing the ones provided on the MSI site would get it working... :/
Another thing is under 'Storage Controllers' in device manager, there is only an IDE Controller. I'm sure there should be a SATA one there, too?

P43 NEO + Intel E8400 - OC Help

*EDIT* Oops maybe this should be in the OC Forum, don't know how I missed that.
Does anyone have any suggestions or any bios settings that are working stable at around 3.8 ghz?
MSI P43 Neo
Intel E8400 @ 3.0 Ghz C0 stepping
2 Gigs (2 x 1) Crucial Ballistix (2.2 volt) 800 Mhz
I have it running at 3.6 Ghz now with the CPU @ 1.3 Volts and the RAM @ 1.9 volts - other settings are auto for now. Any help would be great.

Best way to go is slowly raise your fsb and monitor temperatures then stress test for system stability, I wouldnt change stock voltages untill your cpu or memory isnt stable and needs more. More volts=more heat so be carefull how much you feed your cpu and ram. Keep in mind when you raise fsb your memory also increases in frequency (and heat) and can only take so much. Also set your fsb-memory ratio in bios to 1:1. What sort of heatsink are you using on your cpu? because overclocking will make it very hot. I had a scythe ninja on my old E6400 which could easily hit 3.2G stable but the heat generated and the noise from the fan having to go full speed drove me up the wall. I have and E8400 now and dont bother overclocking, I learned to appreciate cool and quiet

P43 Neo alternative onboard sound driver

Hello again, after a long period of time!
Can anyone help me with an alternative onboard sound driver for my MSI P43 Neo? It has the Realtek ALC888 implementation and now I use the last MSI driver, from the site. I want something more customizable, for example a full customizable equalizer, not only presets. (Vista x64 and Win7 x64, please)
Thanks in advance.

Jack, I know precisely what we are talking about, but I preffere a customizable equalizer in the driver. And I'm not a PC music freak. I have other devices for listening the music. Anyway, the ALC888 on stereo is not so bad how certain people says. It is decent enough.
Henry, no, I don't have that screen. I have this:

MSI P43 Neo-f & Nvidia 8800GTS issues

I recently upgraded my 7600gs to an 8800gts the computer powers on and shows the windows loading screen then freezes. I can boot into safe mode as there are no graphics drivers installed, i can then un-install the drivers and boot into windows fine, once the drivers are installed it will freeze on the windows loading screen.
The Nvidia 8800gts uses the same drivers as the 7600gs so that can't be the problem.
The card works fine in my friends computer, he has an MSI P-35 mainboard.
I tried booting another windows drive and exactly the same happens.
I've tried using a friends 9800gt and exactly the same happens.
Anyone have any idea what's wrong?

Mainboard: MSI P43 Neo-F
CPU: Intel E5300 (2.6 GHz dual core)
Ram: 2GB 800Mhz OCZ Ballistix
Hard Drive: Western Digital 250GB
PSU: 550W
On the Nvidia site it gives me the same download link for both the 7600GS and the 8800GTS.
I shall try Driver sweeper tomorrow and re-install the drivers and let you know...
If it works in safe mode it can't be the board right? I was thinking about flashing the bios to the latest version. Though i've never flashed a bios and i've heard it should only be done as a last resort so i don't really want to do it whilst the old video card works fine.
(off topic: wow it says you're from Cornwall, so am i)

Need help to oc msi p43 neo

hello all,
I just got my new computer fresh from the shop:
cpu - c2d e5200
cpu fan - arctic cooler freezer pro 7
mobo - msi p43 neo
(http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1484)
memory - kingston 800mhz 2gb*1 value - I think the timings are 6-6-6-18
gpu - sapphire radeon 4850 dual slot fansink
psu - jsp-tech (ezcool) 450w
hd - wd 640gb
case - silverstone ps02b with two case fans
bios version is 1.7
OS - windows xp sp3
I want to do a moderate oc on this baby, but I'm afraid since it's my first time. I read a lot from the internet and also the manual but still have several questions.
1) I understand that in this mobo there is no need to adjust the pci and pci-e bus?
2) I plan to do a modest oc - raise it only to 3.0ghz. the bios has gray "auto" next to all of the voltages brackets. can I keep it in "auto"?
does "auto" means stock voltages or will the voltages rise when I'll raise the fsb?
I don't want to "overvolt" just yet.
3) I understand that I need to change DOT, c1e, EIST, spread spectrum to "disable". but I want to keep the EIST and c1e for power conservation. will that effect my oc, considering it's a modest one?
4) is raising the fsb from 200->240 keeping the multiplier 12.5 (240*12.5=3.0ghz) and changing the FSB:DRAM to 1.66 a good option or should i try another one?
5) is there other items I should change in the bios?
If there is anything else that you can suggest, pls do. thank you in advance for your kind reply.

if your going to oc it in 3.0 ghz just raised the fsb 286.. reboot and see if theirs and error..
dont change anything yet..

MOVED: MSI P43 NEO with Q6600?

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Undervolting & Modding Corner.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=148594.0

Overclocking means operating a component or a set of components outside their actual specifications. That means, whenever overclocking is involved, negative consequences (increased heat, signal distorsion, shortened component lifetime, sudden component death) always have to be counted in as a result of overclocking. Users that do not accept these consequences should not even think about overclocking.
Yes, the P43 Neo has a limited voltage regulator/phase modulation architecture which, among other things, does not make it really the best choice for overclocking. It is a cheap, low budget mainboard with limited capabilities.

P43 Neo-F (MS-7519-020): ZOTAC Synergy GeForce GTX 460

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