Panther to leopard install

Have taken a G5 twin out of mothballs and tried to install leopard over panther - error message says no 10.4 or later detected and aborts install - so unable to make it to archive install option.
Any suggestions please?
Thank you

Leopard 10.5.x is supported in early G5 PowerPC computers.
If you have a retail full installer and not an upgrade disc which
may require a previous near-version of OS X to get there; and
do not have a machine-specific version of OS X that was made
to be used in only one series/model of computer, 10.5 can do it.
See: MacTracker for some handy details on each system.
http://mactracker.ca - this is a free downloadable database.
You may have to get another hard disk drive and ready that for
an all new installation of Leopard; and be sure there is enough
chip RAM installed in the computer to support Leopard well.
If there are two drive bays available, the new system should be
in a place of its own since the older apps and parts won't work
with the newer OS X; or some of them may be sketchy or odd.
Better to cut loose with the older stuff and if possible, you could
have that older system & its apps on a different drive; if you have
the original OS X installer discs and can maintain 10.3 correctly.
And if you do try the two OSX idea, note that some documents
will not like to be made in one version of an application then be
forced to adapt to the older version, since they don't do it well.
Plus, some applications may need to be reinstalled if they still
are Leopard capable, with password or serial number if they
are third party; these also don't like drag/drop moves.
With Panther 10.3.x, have you seen what the automatic
Software Updates selection offers to load, when you run
it? You could still get by for awhile with Panther 10.3.9 &
use a new Camino browser, without much pain. Be sure
you run 'repair disk permissions' in Disk Utility between
any/all system or software installations or updates.
{You may wish to start a new thread of your own so it
will be seen as such, and you will see all new replies.}
Good luck in any event, & happy computing!

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