Payment terms- F110
Dear gurus, please advise in this issue
I have a vendor with 2%10 specified in the vendor master and also on the invoice- pmt method is check.
I checked to see if 2%10 is defined as 2% discount if paid within 10 days else due net by 30 days.And this seems to be OK.
When I ran F110, the payment program(for check) is not picking up this invoice untill 30 days from baseline date.
and on 30th day the f110 program picked up this invoice, I wonder why the cash discount is not being taken/ considered by the payment program.
Max cash discount is NOT checked in configuration.But I think this need NOT to be checked, if not please suggest.
Please advise what changes needs to be done to get F110 pick up such invoices to take cash discount.
I understand that if "Max cash disc" is checked SAP takes cash discount even after discount period.
Thank you
MSJ
Hi there,
I am missing some information. Please let me know the invoice date and payment run date with 'date of next payemnt run" It should work as per configuration and your configuariton is correct.
Here is example.
Terms of payemnt say Z210 - which means 2% 10 days with net due 30 days.
Invoice Date as of 09/20 which means your Invoice due date would be 10/19 without cash discount and with cash discount any date between 09/20 and 09/30.
Now go to F110 and enter parameter your run date as of today 09/24 and enter your next run date as 10/20, system will pcik up your cash discount.
Try it and let me know. I have done it and it works. if it does not work, just udpate message with further information.
Thanks,
Pawan
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Change Value of the Payment Run (F110)
Hi,
Can someone help me??.....
In a customer that has a payment term with a Settlement Discount that pays on time, when we run the F110 (Direct Debit Run) we do not want to apply the settlement discount amount to the amount of the Direct Debit run, so the user pays the full amount. We will locate the amount of the settlemetn discount into a the customer account (in a special g/l indicator, like we are saving that money for them) and the settlement discount will not be posted.
1º How can I modify the total amount in the F110 (Direct Debit Run)?, is there any user exit? so we can change the full amount of the
2º How can we not post the Settlement Discount in the F110 (Direct Debit Run)?. Could it be with a G/L Substitution or via user exit modifing the REGUH and REGUP table.
3º The posting into the customer account with the special G/L will be with a Z program that will identify this cases and post the correct G/L.Hi
The cleanest way is to remove the settlement discount set up from the master. Any way you are using a Z program to post the settlement discount into teh customer account.
Altering amounts in a automatically generated Payment Run is usually frowned on by Audit and the like. -
Exclude customers from payment run F110
Hello,
I have a question for exclusions in transaction code F110 (Automatic Payment Transactions).
We have 2 different payment methods for Direct Debit (D) and Direct Debit SEPA (F).
When we select payment method D or F, we get a very large log file, for all self paying customers, that do not have a payment method at customer master.The messages in the log file looks like this:
Additional log for customer K09777 company code 1000
Payment method selection additional log
Payment method selection for items due now to the amount of EUR 434,17
None of the pmnt meths "D" has been entered in mast.rec.or in doc.
Because of the size of the log file (we have over 10.000 customers), we added payment method P (Paying Customers) to the customer master data of all self paying customers.
We then exclude payment method P in transaction F110 when processing payment method D and/or F.
That works fine, we don't get a large log file anymore, only the "real" errors are shown.
But now we have a "problem" in FSCM.
The amount to be collected is empty (zero). I think the reason is that we now have payment methods at every customer (I found this in another discussion on SCN).
There are two options: We look for a solution in FSCM to get the amount to be collected again, or we use another exclusion in F110.
We would like to know if there is another possibility in F110 to exclude customers, other then exclude payment method P, so the log file will still show only the real errors.
If someone knows a solution for showing the amount to be collected in FSCm again, that would be fine as well.
These are options I found, but I don't know what is best or how to do this:
1 Collection authorization field, but I cannot find that anywhere. Where should that be stated in master data? Can't find it in Customer master or BP? Neither in Payment terms?
2 Use Badi Amount to be Collected available.
I am not a programmer, but I am afraid that can only be done by a programmer?!
The (default) calculation of SAP is fine, that amount to be collected should be used. Is there some "default" Badi available that I can impement without writing ABAP code?
Thanks in advance.Hello!
I'm not sure concerning the relationships between APP and FSCM, but I think that there should be some link between FSCM and EBS. Go to transaction OT83 ("Make Global Settings for EBS") and choose tab "Assign External Transaction Types to Posting Rules".
Choose the external transaction relevant to your customers and check the entry in the column "Planning Type, Transaction". I think some of them (e.g. General planning) might be helpful.
Hope this will help.
Best Regards,
The Wirtschaftsmann -
Adjusting AP Payment terms to allow for mail service
I am interested in adjusting the Accounts Payable process to release payments earlier than the payment terms (e.g. Net 30 payment would release for payment on 28th day) to allow for postal delays. Is that possible on across the board for all payees?
Hi Chris
In the automatic payment run(F110), in the parameters tab -> input a date which is two days ahead in the filed 'Customer items due by' and input todays date in the field 'Docs entered up to'
Ex: If the item is due on Sep 14 then input details as below
Docs enetered up to: 09/12/2014
Customer items due by: 09/14/2014
System will pick up all items due as of Doc entered up to date + till the date in Customer items due by.
Run the payment run the above inputs and check if the next few days due items are pulled into or not.
Thanks,
Sekhar -
APP ERROR FOR CASH DISCOUNT PAYMENT TERMS
Hi,
I am facing problem in F110 - APP run for cash discount payment terms. The error is "Error in creating the payment document". Suggest a suitable solution.
ShripadDear,
This problem is often cause due to changing payment term in the document. Use transaction FB03 enter the invoice document got Environment>Document changes. If you see the payment term has been changed then restore the old payment term into the document.
Regards,
Chintan Joshi. -
Invoice Reference Number "V" + Blank Payment Terms field
Hi Experts
Need your validation on one point. I have credit memos with invoice reference number field filled with "V" but payment terms in document is blank.
Payment terms in Vendor Master Data is XXXX (Net due 30 days). But when I run the Payment Program within 30 days for this vendor, the credit memo is picked up and adjusted.
Is my understanding correct that it is because of the following reasons -
By putting V in invoice reference number, the system will overlook the payment terms mentioned in Vendor Master Data and follows whatever is mentioned in the document.
And because the payment term field is empty in the document, it is taking baseline date as payment due date and thus picks the document in F110 program.
Points will be rewarded to replies with explanations.
Regards
ArjunArjun,
please check my comments:
By putting V in invoice reference number, the system will overlook the payment terms mentioned in Vendor Master Data and follows whatever is mentioned in the document.
In all cases the document entry overlook the master data entry. The vendor works as default values during document entry.
And because the payment term field is empty in the document, it is taking baseline date as payment due date and thus picks the document in F110 program.
Don't change the document defaul entry if you want the vendor assignment. If it's blank you have to assign same Payment terms from you vendor otherwise you will have only the baseline date.
Best Regards -
Incoming payments through f110 ?
HI,
Can one of you please give some info. On the following..
F110 .. We can also use for incoming payments. Can you please let me know when exactly we will execute incoming payments through f110 ?
For vendor it makes sense that it will collect the all pending open invoices and will generate a payment document including check printing(or whatever the payment method) to vendor.
Step 1. Create vendor invoices
Step 2. Run F110
Step 3. F110 selects pending invoices and generates payment documents
Step 4. depending on payment method It will allow us to pay the money to Vendor through cheque/ cash/ etc.,
I gues incoming payments is for receivables from customer, if so then what f110 does for incoming payments..
I feel if we know that customer deposited the money in bank (through bank statement) then we can run f110 for the open documents is it correct ? Or any other options.. Let me know step by step process like vendors
Step 1. Create Customer invoices
Step 2.
Step 3.
Regards
Ravinagh BoniRavi,
F110 can be used for incoming payments as well.It is not a common practice across all businesses. This process is called as ACH direct debit. In simple terms it is pulling money directly from customer bank account.Required things;
1. A payment method for Incoming payments, Payment medium program used for this payment method is RFFOEDI1
2. Banking information in customer master.
To explain it further:
1. Post invoice to customer
2. Run f110 to clear the invoice by inserting customer number in the parameters tab
3. Payment program creates an IDOC with all requirement information for the banks to process payments
4. if the bank accepts IDOC send idoc's to bank, if not process data in EDI translator and send the file to bank in aceptable format
5. Bank processes the payments and sends the clearing transactions as a bank statement
6. When EBS is processed main bank account will be updated.
I hope this helps, -
Credit card payment through f110
Hello All
I have created ICICI Credit card as a vendor account. I accounted all expenses and created to vendor a/c. My payment term is
Monthly ones or 25th of every month. I want to give cheq through f110 how can I configerate this.If you have entered the payment method for the check in the ICICI vendor master data, and have selected that payment method in parameters of F110, then F110 will pay that vendor, provided you have already completed the required configuration and have assigned the check form of this payment method in FBZP.
Thanks
Ron -
How to generate checks when executing Automatic Payment Program (F110)
Is it possible to generate checks automatically when I execute the automatic payment program? Will reward points to any suggestion. Thanks!
hi patrick
try this.....ur problem may solve.....
Create Automatic Payment Transactions (F110)
Purpose
Use this procedure to generate checks proposals or ACH proposals and then subsequently issue checks or set up ACH files to be transmitted to the bank.
Trigger
Perform this procedure when through either an ACH or a check, a creditor of the University needs to be paid.
Prerequisites
Open invoices with reached due dates have to be present in the SAP system.
Menu Path
Use the following menu path to begin this transaction:
· Select Accounting Financial Accounting Accounts Payable Periodic processing Payments to go to the Automatic Payment Transactions: Status screen.
Transaction Code
F110
Business Process Information
The automatic payment process will be centrally managed in the Accounts Payable Office. The automatic payment program will be executed each day for all open invoices (across vendors) in the system. There will be separate payment run execution corresponding to each payment method category:
Check payments: clears the open invoices and issues a check output
ACH payments: clears the open invoices and issues an ACH file output
Foreign currency payments: clears open invoices but no output is issued
State/Grant payments: clears open invoices but no output is issued
The process steps executed during the automatic payment program are:
Enter Payment Parameters
Edit/review Payment Proposal
Post Payments
Generate Payment Medium (print checks or create ACH payment file)
Generate Positive Payment File
The payment parameters are entered in order to limit the open invoices and credits selected for payment. It is important to note that the payment terms that are defined on the invoice will drive whether a invoice is due for payment during the current payment run. During the payment program execution, the invoices that are due for payment will be presented to the user on a payment proposal list.
The payment proposal is a list of expected payments grouped by vendor account. Invoices that are due for payment but cannot be paid due to some kind of accounting or system error are listed as exceptions. Examples of typical exceptions are missing banking information (for ACH payments) and blocked invoices. Some payment exceptions will be resolved at the Accounts Payable Office. However the Department must resolve some exceptions. When these types of exceptions appear on the payment proposals, the Accounts Payable Office will inform the Department of the blocked payment in order to get a resolution. Key personnel in the Accounts Payable Office will be the only resources to have access to the editing function of the payment proposal processing. Typically, there is no business reason the edit or change a payment proposal. Editing options for a payment proposal includes: changing the default disbursing bank account information or changing the payment method.
After the payment proposals have been reviewed and edited, the proposals are posted as payments. It is important to note that any open credit on the vendor's account is also taken in consideration when creating the vendor's payment. The payment method supplement defined on the invoice will drive the check sorting.
In addition to the printed check output, the payment program run produces an ACH file and a Positive Pay file. Both files are sent to the bank for further processing. The ACH file contains the vendor's payment and banking data. The Positive Pay file contains the check data (check processed, voided, etc) and is used for confirmation of payments.
Helpful Hints
· The R/O/C column in the field description tables below defines whether the field is required (R), optional (O), or conditional (C).
· On certain screens you may have to scroll to view some data entry fields.
· Click the tab to view the current overall status of the payment process by viewing the informational messages.
Procedure
1. Start the transaction using the menu path or transaction code.
Automatic Payment Transactions: Status
2. As required, complete the following fields:
· Run date
· Identification
3. Click the tab.
The payment program parameters are used to limit the program's selection of open invoices and credits.
Automatic Payment Transactions: Parameters
4. As required, complete/review the following fields:
· Posting date
· Docs entered up to
· Company codes
· Pmt meths
· Next p/date
· Vendor
5. Click the tab.
Free selection criteria are extended parameter selection criteria used to limit the open invoices and credits selected in the payment run.
Automatic Payment Transactions: Free Selection
6. Perform any of the following:
If You Want To
Then
Select data by a particular field value; use the match code on the Field Name field to obtain the required field
Enter the required field value to be considered in the payment program selection of open items. The field value is entered in the Values field
Payment selection can be based on fields on the invoice or credit memo document or fields on the vendor master.
Example: A (AP payment block)
Exclude the open items that match your field value
Select to the left of Exclude values.
Include only those open items that match your field value
Deselect to the left of Exclude values.
7. Click the tab.
This information is used to expand the information that is automatically recorded in the payment run log. The payment run log is used to diagnose any program errors during the payment run.
Automatic Payment Transactions: Additional Log
8. Perform the following:
If You Want the Payment Program Log to Record
Then
Information on due date check
Select to the left of Due date check.
Activate this option.
Any payment method selection data
Select to the left of Payment method selection in all cases.
Activate this option.
Line item information the payment documents generated upon posting the payment proposal
Select to the left of Line items of the payment documents.
Activate this option.
9. As required, complete/review the following fields:
· Vendors (from)
· Vendors (to)
Enter the same vendor account number range for Accounts required section of the transaction.
10. Click the tab.
The specifications defined in this section of the transaction inform the payment program the correct form to use for check printing and the correct payment file format to use for ACH payments.
Automatic Payment Transactions: Printout and DME
11. As required, complete the following fields:
· RFFOAVIS
· RFFOUS_C
12. Click the tab.
Exit editing
13. Click to save the data.
If you want to delete the payment program parameters entered, select Edit Parameters Delete.
Automatic Payment Transactions: Status (2)
The system displays the message, "Details have been saved for the run on XX/XX/XX XXXX."
14. Click .
If you want to refresh the screen in order to view the current status (processing step) of the payment program click at any time.
Schedule Proposal
15. Perform one of the following:
If You Want To
Then
Execute the payment program (i.e. process the payment parameters entered and create a payment proposal) immediately
Select to the left of Start immediately.
Activate this option.
Designate a target computer
Enter the name in the Target computer field.
16. Click to process the payment parameters and create a payment proposal.
While the payment program is selecting and processing data, the status will display the message, "Proposal is running." When the payment proposal has completed and is ready for review/edit, the system will display the message, "Payment proposal has been created."
Automatic Payment Transactions: Status (3)
The system displays the message, "Proposal run has been scheduled."
17. Click .
Automatic Payment Transactions: Status (4)
The system updates the status, "Payment proposal has been created."
18. Perform one of the following:
If You Want To
Then
Go To
Execute the payment run
Click .
Step 19
Edit the payment proposal
Click .
Step 43
Display the payment proposal
Click .
Step 54
Display the payment proposal run log
Click .
Step 57
Delete the proposal
Select Edit Proposal Delete.
Step 60
Display the proposal list in a printer friendly format
Select Edit Proposal Proposal List....
Step 62
Display only the exception (error) invoices or credits
Select Edit Proposal Exception List....
Step 67
Exit this transaction
Step 72
Schedule Payment
19. Perform the following:
If You Want To
Then
Execute the payment program (i.e. process the payment parameters entered and create a payment proposal) immediately
Select to the left of Start immediately.
Activate this option.
Designate a target computer
Enter the name in the Target computer field.
20. Click to process the payment proposal and post the payment documents.
While the payment program is selecting and processing data, the status will display 'Payment is running'. When the payment proposal posted the status will display 'Payment run has been carried out. Posting orders X generated, X completed. (X will represent the total number of checks produced).
Automatic Payment Transactions: Status (5)
The system displays the message, "Payment run has been scheduled."
21. Click .
Automatic Payment Transactions: Status (6)
The system updates the status, "Payment run has been carried out." If you click after seeing the status update, "Payment run has been carried out", the system will display an update to the status, "Posting orders: XXXX generated, XXXX completed."
22. Perform one of the following:
If You Want To
Then
Go To
Review the payments posted
Click .
Step 23
Display the payment proposal
Click .
Step 26
Display the payment proposal run log
Click .
Step 29
Display the payment list in a printer friendly format
Select Edit Payments Payment List.
Step 32
Display only the exception (error) invoices or credits
Select Edit Payments Exception List.
Step 36
Print the payment run information
Click .
Step 40
Exit this transaction
Step 72
Job Log Entries for F110-XXXX-XXXX / XXXX
23. Review the displayed information.
24. Click .
25. Return to Step 22.
Display Payment Proposal: Payments
26. Review the displayed information.
27. Click .
28. Return to Step 22.
Job Log Entries for F110-XXXX-XXXX-X / XXXX (2)
29. Review the displayed information.
30. Click .
31. Return to Step 22.
List Variant
32. Click .
Payment list
33. Review the displayed information.
34. Click .
35. Return to Step 22.
List Variant (2)
36. Click .
Payment list (2)
37. Review the displayed information.
38. Click .
39. Return to Step 22.
Schedule Print
40. As required, complete/review the following fields:
· Start date
· Start immediately
· Start time
· Target computer
· Job name
41. Click .
42. Return to Step 22.
Accounting clerk
43. Click .
Edit Payment Proposal: Payments
44. Review the displayed information.
45. Perform one of the following:
If You Want To
Then
Go To
Continue with the payment process
Click .
Step 18
Review/edit invoice information for the payment (invoice numbers, discounts, payment amounts, etc).
1. Click on the line you want to select.
2. Click .
Step 46
Change the key payment information (payment method, house bank, payee name and address, etc.)
1. Click on the line you want to select.
2. Click .
This option does not work for lines that have exceptions.
Step 51
Edit Payment Proposal: Open Items
46. Double-click on the line you want to choose.
Change Line Items
47. As required, complete/review the following fields:
· Payment block
· Discount amount
· Cash discount %
48. Click .
49. Click .
50. Return to Step 45.
Change Payment
51. As required, complete/review the following fields:
· Payment method
· Pmt meth.supl.
· Due date
52. Click .
53. Return to Step 45.
Display Payment Proposal: Payments
54. Review the displayed information.
55. Click .
56. Return to Step 18.
Job Log Entries for F110-XXXX-XXXX-X / XXXX (3)
57. Review the displayed information.
58. Click .
59. Return to Step 18.
Delete proposal
60. Click .
Automatic Payment Transactions: Status (7)
The system displays the message, "Data and log deleted."
61. Go to Step 72.
List Variant (3)
62. As required, complete the following field:
· Variant
63. Click .
Payment list (3)
64. Review the displayed information.
65. Click .
66. Return to Step 18.
List Variant (4)
67. As required, complete the following field:
· Variant
68. Click .
Payment list (4)
69. Review the displayed information.
70. Click .
71. Return to Step 18.
72. Click until you return to the SAP Easy Access screen.
73. You have completed this transaction.
Result
You have executed a payment proposal, executed and posted a payment run and printed checks.
reward me points.......dont forget -
Baseline date & Payment terms are not populating for Intercomany vendor
Hi,
When we post intercompany invoice & check the vendor line items in FBL1N,it is expected to have data payment terms & Baseline date from the posted Invoice.this is occuring fime with single company but this data is blank for Intercompany which is creating issues for further steps.
Anybody has faced such issue? What may be the resolution?Hello,
Why are you directly executing these programs?
You will not expect these program to execute directly by going to SE38.
I would have configured the relevant payment methods in the country with DME structure or classical RFFO* programs, which in turn pick up the inherent programs at the time of running F110.
For example, if you need to generate BACS file for country GB, either you copy the GB_BACS to ZGB_BACS or use GB_BACS directly in FBZP settings.
Make sure that you have maintained OBPM1 / OBPM2 / OBPM3 and OBPM4 settings properly.
The system automatically gives the access to system RFFOAVIS_FPAYM. Prepare a variant against this program in F110. Relevant file gets generated to folder path mentioned in OBPM4 will get generated. The file get generated can be seen in AL11.
Hope this is informative and solves your issue.
Regards,
Ravi -
Hi All,
1. I think we can change the payment term assigned to the vendor (in master data) while posting the invoice, please confirm if I am correct?
2. Is it possible to change the payment term in the document before the payment either in case of manual or automated payment run (F110).
Rg
vkhi
yes its possible to change payment terms in master data and in document before payment.
You can restrict the payment terms changing by document change rule if you want.
So if in your case document change rule has not restricted payment terms change it is possible to change it.
Rewards points
thanks
s ap -
Payment terms - check not to pay before 30 days ( MM )
Dear Team ,
When you create terms of payment , say if the payment terms is 30 days or more for payment to vendor......how to make sure that the vendor will not be paid within 30 days ?
Thanks ,
MikeDuring FI payment via F110 the system will allow only the open line items whihc are having status due in FBL1N.
So no need for any setting from MM side. FBL1N has different dtatus like Due, Overdue, not due etc. -
Hello all,
I would like to ask the following:
We can not "see" in payment proposals (F110) open payments that have been created manually with F-58 and are still open. The document type used for both F110 and F-58 is "KW-Payment by cheque". Any ideas why this might happen?
Thank you in advance,
DimitrisDear Dimitris,
first of all the F110 has to contain all the payment terms for which You want to pay the fi documents.
But the fi documents can be without method of payment NOT the automatic payment.
Example: in F110 you put the "C" method of payment. In this way the System will consider all the documents that contains the payment method or the document that does not contain it but whose vendor or customer master data contain it.
Please test by manual clearing. If You can see these documents by the manual clearing, as I told You before, the problem is referring the F110 settings.
I hope this can help.
Mauri -
Payment immediately - payment term problem
Hi Experts,
We have the problem today that the system does not take into consideration payment terms but pays out everything immediately. Payment term master data are ok.
In MIRO by giving in payment term the system does not read the details and therefore pays out everything.
What can be the root cause?
Thanks for the suggestion,
BBHi Brigitta,
In F110 there are several things that can control hwihc items are paid and when:
1 Config - set up of company payments in FBZP
2 Master data in vendor account, including payment terms, methods etc.
3 Information carried at document level - payment terms, blocks etc.
4 Parameters entered in the payment run itself in F110
I would recommned checking carefully the data entered in the document and line item in the vendor account - check the payment term at this level, and the due days. Next to check is that the "Next payment run date" entered in F110 is not too far out, because if you have enetered a late date, and the item falls due before that date, the system will pay it even if it is not due right now.
You can also do a line item query in the vendor account and show the due days or due date column just to confirm.
Regards,
Tony -
Payment term change in document
Guys,
Here is an interesting puzzle for you. We ran F110 to make payment to one of our vendor which gives us 2% discount on 10days.We found out that we are out of discount period so I changed the payment term from Z10 to Z30 in the vendor invoice to force the sysetm to do a discount and I ran the F110 , we got the discount. But now I see that same invocie is still showing up in MRBR-Release block invoices where as I already made the payment to vendor by writing check.and no invoice is outstanding on vendor's a/c.Any idea why this inovice is showing in MRBR with status as blocked.I guess change of payment term is legitimate so sap allows it. Any suggestion to get rid of that block invoice in MRBR.Thanks
Regards
Shaunhi
yes its possible to change payment terms in master data and in document before payment.
You can restrict the payment terms changing by document change rule if you want.
So if in your case document change rule has not restricted payment terms change it is possible to change it.
Rewards points
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s ap
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