Pci card issues with K8N Neo-V2

Motherboard: MSI K8N Neo V2.0 (ms-7030 ver:3.0)
Network & sound cards won't work properly with this motherboard while using Ubuntu 7.10 or 8.04 but they work fine under Windows XP Pro. The same network & sound cards were tested with other motherboards running Windows or Ubuntu successfully. Shortly thereafter, the motherboard wouldn't POST correctly so I flashed the bios with the correct bios from http://www.msicomputer.com/support/bios_result.asp
After following the flashing instructions, I checked the CMOS settings & the incorrect bios version is displayed. If I install Ubuntu while using these cards, neither network nor sound cards will work but onboard sound & audio adapters work. I've tried everything posted on the MSI site regarding flashing & bios recovery but all results are failures. Is there anything else I can do to zero this motherboard & getting it working properly? Thanks.

Only reason why I flashed/updated the BIOS is because the motherboard wouldn't POST properly. After I flashed the BIOS, the motherboard POSTed fine.
To answer your question about the BIOS update you listed, yes, I did try that one along with a version 7 listed for the same part #: ms-7030.
I reinstalled Windows XP Pro last night & both cards are working fine. Because this project seems like an experiment to me, I tried the latest Live Update utility offered by MSI. Strangely, it saw that I was using BIOS version 7 & showed me a version 7.1 update. I updated the BIOS again to version 7.1, and the BIOS version listed now in the CMOS is version 7.1.
As for what components I have, I'm using the following:
audio: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live! (ct4780)
video: MSI FX 5200
network: Linksys lne100tx v4
hard drive: IDE ata100 Western Digital WD800JB
power supply: Allied 12v 400w

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Question for those with memory issues on k8n neo plat

I have been having issues with my memory on the k8n neo platinum board since i built the system last month and i just recently discovered a fact I had overlooked.
I Have discovered that if i test the system while it is cool (having sat turned off overnight for example), then memtest will pass the ram just fine and the system will be stable for a short period of time, generally longer if no intensive applications are used, ie. doom3 vs. websurfing).
This system, once it heats up ( seems mostly to be the nvidia 3 nb that needs to be "hot"- that is, a probe placed in contact with the module reaches about 58+ degrees c) then the system becomes unstable and memtest, if used, fails.
Prime95, if used on it when its cool, will usually take about an hour or so to fail, but if its used on the system when its been running a bit ( temps from nb at 58c+ and memory module hot to the touch) then it fails after about 20-30 seconds.
I have placed an active hs on the nb in an attempt to correct this, but temps still remain high with failures occuring.
I have spent the better part of three days testing the sytem this way and the above facts have held true in all these tests.
I have tested at stock ratings ( not using "auto" in bios, but using "approved ratings" of 10 x 200 for fsb and timings of 2-3-3-7 for my ram at 1:1 (which is recommended as well) since i am testing for base stability at this point;Voltages have been left at auto settings, however.
I was wondering if anyone else with memory issues could try this out and post if this seems to be the case for you as well.
Perhaps the memory issues on these boards are directly related to a problem with the nvidia 3 chipset running too hot?
Does anyone have a memory issue with these boards who is using water cooling on the NB ?
Lack of issues from people using 'problem" memory, but having no failures with water cooled nb's would support my assumption.

Yes i did mean chipset.
I am using a stock hs/fan from amd, which seems to run a tad hot but, considering that I wont overclock until I can get board stable, its not an issue. (runs 35-40 idle and up to 72 intensive). I need the warranty more then the extra mhz at present.
I removed the stock heatsink from the nvidia chipset and bought a generic chipset cooler (green, very little in the way of fins and seems to be aluminum) with a small fan.
I used a generic silver paste from Compusa to adhere both the cpu hs and the chipset.
I didnt lap either hs, just installed each as per instructions on artic silvers website (figured it had to go on the same way even generic).
I also bought a kingwin thermal center which i ran probes from to the cpu, case, and nb chipset.
I am not using it to adjust fans so those arent connected - its just a reference temp I can see at a glance, esp considering the funky bios reading this boards been known to give.
I assume from these responces that even a nvidia 3 250 chipset shouldnt get as hot as mine?
I asked about that from the retailer i bought this from but he seemed to think it was "ok" at 50ish celcius, but then again he didnt look too confident when he said it, lol.
Idle right now reads on Corecenter at 28 celcius for cpu and 33 celcius for the chipset, although, I have readings of 37 c and 43 c from the kingwin thermal center, which i believe to be more accurate.
My voltage reads at 11.67 for the 12v line at idle right now.
The psu i got is stick from the xblade case i bought in store. (http://www.xoxide.com/xblade2.html)
I have a dvd burner, cd drive, and two maxtor ide hd's attached to the system;The only card is the agp.
Is there a way to check and see if the cpu ispower starved? software monitor or even an external probe perhaps?
I havent put a probe on it, but the ram came in its own heatspreader, which gets very hot to the touch as well.
What temps should I be looking for on these items?

K8n Master2 scsi pci card issues

First of all here is my specs:
K8n Master2 bios 1.42
8800 gtx non sli
2* 285 optys
4gigs of corsair reg/ecc pc-3200
silverstone op1000 PS
I have a problem with scsi I have tried 3 different scsi ultra 160 pci cards (Adaptec asc-29160, Lsi Logic LSIU160, and another LSi Logic card) all giving me the same errors. The problem is the scsi card displays error HAVE OPTION ROM CAN NOT BE INVOKE (VENDOR...) and so on. In addition, I have tried everything I can think of to get the scsi card to initialize the motherboard bios. I have also tried many different bios for the k8n master2 motherboard that I could get my hands on without any luck. I have done some searching on google for a compatible scsi card for the K8n Master2 motherboard with no luck, and I was wandering if anyone here has gotten a scsi card to work and what model it may be so I can get an idea what to get. Thanks

Quote from: Bas on 26-June-07, 18:17:14
Did you turn off the onboard Raid controllers and Sata controller?
Some of then can use a SCSI-type Option rom and thus blocking your SCSI rom.
Hi, yea I have turned off all Sata and Raid controllers even serial and parrell ports to free up IRQ settings with no luck. Also, I can access the motherboard bios when I do not have scsi card installed, but when I boot up with the scsi card in pci slot and try to go into the motherboard bios my computer just locks up everytime not allowing me to get into bios. In addition, I have been using scsi for many many years with previous computer setups never having a issue with the scsi card rom not being invoked. The scsi card rom settings allow me to turn of any Boot, IRQ settings, or vendor ID settings but by doing this I cant not have a fixed drive number in Windows Xp which does not allow the scsi hard drive to convert to dynamic disk for mirror or stripping.

Help with K8N NEO 4 and AMD X2 3800+!!!

For christmas i got a new AMD Athlon X2 3800+ CPU. System Specs Below.
AMD Athlon 3800+ Dual Core CPU
MSI K8N Neo4 Sli motherboard, nforce 4 chipset
XFX Geforce 7800GT 256 MB PCI-E GFX Card
2X512 MB Corsair XMS 3200 Xtra low latency memory
Antec TruePower 2 550Watt PSU
Now, when ever i'm playing a game, at random time periods, the system will start looping the sound, and after a few seconds it will reboot. When it does this, the monitor will go into standby until it restarts,with the little amber light and everything. It does it more often on some games than others. The memory has passed a 24 hr memtest 86 with no errors, and this is the second psu i've tired and still get the same result. The psu in it right now is brand new. I dunno what to do. I'm tired of not being able to play my games b/c of this. The heatsink on the CPU is stock. Also on the graphics card. Temps never reach above 47C on the processor and 65C on the GFX card. Please help me.

I short of have the same problem.I got my pc about two weeks ago.
AMD 3800+ x2 Manchester E6 (Toledo E6 inCpu-Z)
MSI K8N Neo 4 Sli (came with 3.6 bios upgraded to 3.7 and 2 days ago 3.8)
Sapphire x1600 256 pci e
2x512 Corsair VS512MB400 value select(2,5,3,3,8 1T)
Tagan TG480-U01
The first day after a clean install i runned MSI Live update and it just froze (no other application running) force restart and then the hard disk was gone.Fixed it then updated all the drivers for mb graphics nvidia drivers AMD hot fix and M$ hot fix but still it just freezes.Today there were 2 one when i run MSI live update(??????) and another when using 3Dmark06(froze between tests).
Used memtest for 1 hour no errors no Oc althought when used MSI core cell Oc(bios) in comander mode froze in 1 min.Temps dont go above 41 42 (user mode 7/8 fan speed in core center when in Cool n Quiet temps reach 42 43 even 46 and it keeps the rpm near 1100 1200????????)when running games apps with stock fan.
Whats the problem

Freezing issues with K8N Neo2 Plat & 6800 gt

Well I get random freezing during games. Sometimes it freezes for 5-10 seconds then comes back, while other times it just freezes and the sound comes back but not the game.
I had this problem when I first upgraded.
K8N Neo2 plat
1gb corsair xms 3200
athlon 64 3500
aslo have:
420-30? antec tru power supply. I cant remember exact number.
6800gt ultra
audigy 2 plat
Now I first posted my problem a while ago and someone told me to try chaning the HT to 4x instead of 5x. So I did and it worked. It worked for a few weeks and now the problems have come back.
Any Ideas?

Along with the above issues, I've also found that a lot of my gaming probs with the 6800 are due to it being a "bandwidth hog" & it's latency needs to be adjusted lower to enable the other devices on the PCI bus (i.e. sound card) to get enough bandwidth to function properly. This isn't noticeable until you start some heavy gaming with a lot going on at once...
If your game ever practically chugs to a halt when a lot of sounds are being produced, this is the main problem. Here's a way & some notes on how to deal with it. Just like every "tweak" though, it's not guaranteed to work for everyone but I got noticeable benefits from it.
- D/L (I got it @ guru3D) PCI Latency Tool & give the "Read Me" a quick once-over. Write down the values for your devices, in case you need/want to change 'em back. Most items are well labeled - the 6800 & your sound card will be what you are most interested in. I wouldn't mess with the rest of 'em, as they deal with low level system items that are best left alone. Unless you are truly an Uber Geek!
- The latency for my 6800 listed as a massive 248 clks! For some reason, I've read that ATI cards don't default at such a large value, which might explain why people don't seem to have as many performance issues with 'em. Anyhow lower the 6800 to a more "reasonable" value, like 128 or 64. 64 seemed to work best for me.
- Save the settings, reboot & test it out. You can experiement with the sound card latency too, in order to find what works best for you, but I wouldn't set it at less than it's default value (32).
Hope this helps.

Sata issues with k8n-fsr

Hi list!
I have serious issues with my sata drive on my K8N Neo-FSR.
The SATA drive is connected on the SATA3 controller, and an IDE DVD is connected as master on IDE channel 1. The DVD is detected by the BIOS and can be booted...
BUT, the SATA hard drive is not detected by the BIOS, and so neither by WinXP or Linux installers...
I tried loads of configurations settings in the BIOS like SATA3/4 Enabled, RAID IDE enabled, ... Boot priority options do not show the HD...
Please help!!!!!!!
Here is my config:
MSI K8N Neo-FSR (NVIDIA nForce3 250Gb)
Hitachi 160 Go 7200 RPM 8 Mo Serial ATA (bulk)
Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro
NEC ND-3500 - DVD(+/-)RW

hi zorloc,
looking at size of your new drives are they the new ncq capable seagates, in which case it may be a compatability issue. Maxtor 10 series users have had similar issues.
Try updating bios to the new officiial v1.5 which has Raid v4.6 & may be better for these drives.
You'd also be best upgrading to the latest Nvidia 5.1 drivers .
Other than this Try & see if any of the fixes that worked for the Maxtor users work for you.
see Maxtor 16Mb Cache HDDs & Neo2 Problems there are several more member €ric had some success at end of included thread.
Edit: This may also be of interest Ech a fellow Neo 754 user has had a long stuggle trying to get his maxtor 10 to work Updated Neo BIOS to fix Maxtor 16Mb problem?
luck

MSGTAG Software not working with K8N Neo LAN Port

Greetings All,
I'm having a problem using a message receipt service called MSGTAG (http://www.msgtag.com) It works with Microsoft Outlook and while it still uses Port 25 for the SMTP server, it also creates Port number 7362 to "listen" for when the recipient opens the e-mail and sends a receipt back to the originator. This service will not get past the LAN port on the K8N Neo Platinum board. Outlook just hangs until an error message pops up saying a connection to the smtp server was interrupted. I thought it might be the nVIDIA firewall software, so after opening up to correct ports, it still won't work. I then uninstalled the firewall all togther, but still no luck.
I'm running all the latest MSI and nVIDIA drivers.
I should note that as soon as I enable my PCI NIC and use that, everything is fine.
Anyone have a suggestion? MSGTAG tech support wasn't much help.
Much appreciated.

Looks like I finally figured it out. In the nVIDIA ForceWare interface under Ethernet Settings---->Advanced Configuration--->Checksum Offload, uncheck the box that says "TCP Transmit Checksum Offload" and hit "Apply" and now it works!
I have the overall Firewall set to "High" profile, and now the only two websites that don't come up at all are http://www.extremetech.com and http://www.netflix.com . I've seen postings in here before about Netflix. Does anyone has an easy answer as to what source code these two websites have in common that would make this firewall block them?
The only firewall setting I can find so far that allows them to load is "Off". I could drop it each time I guess, but there has to be another way.
Thanks for any help you can give!

Success with K8N Neo Plat + ATI 9800Pro?

I'm trying to decide on whether to go with the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB or the GeForce 6800nu. But I've read a lot of places where people have had problems combining the MSI K8N Neo Platinum and the Radeon 9800 Pro cards together... lots of blue screening or choppiness when playing games like FarCry or other heavy hitters. So that's why I'm considering the GeForce card instead, but I'd really like to stick with the ATI if possible.
So, if you have a combination of that mobo and gfx card, please post the results of your success or problems (and why) along with your system specs.
Thanks in advance!

Since my power upgrade to a Tagan 480W, I haven't had any problems anymore! With the new ATi catalyst 4.9 drivers I reached 6005 3DMarks (2003 build 340) yesterday. Without any OC-ing, I think that's great! Before the Tagan psu I had some drops to 3700 3dmarks, so make sure you get a psu with at least 24amps or more on the +12V rail for this kind of system!
No choppiness in games either, in fact they (Farcry, Colin Mcrae, CoD, Doom3 since 4.9 drvs etc etc) all look great!
I can really recommend the ATi9800Pro 128 MB + MSI Neo plat. + a AMD64 CPU as lons as you buy a decent psu with it! I mean the ATi9800 Pro has a great price / performance these days

Weird problem with k8n neo fsr

hello!
i have weird problem with my K8N Neo-fsr and Athlon 64 2800+ socket 754, when i try to overclock i change in bios HT from 4 to 3 (for better stability), after restart nothing happen, my pc wont boot, also nothing on screen, so i must clear cmos for solve my problem and set to 4 i try several bioses from official to moded also pinochio`s and syar`s moded and allways the same issue is it problem with processor? or motherboard?
thanx for your help and sorry for my english

You should first get down cpu ratio, then get up cpu fsb and as you wanted set ht frequency from 4 to 3 and "save changes and exit" if it doesn't boot change you psu (at least antec 380 or tagan) or go fast to send back your mobo to reseller!!

How to simutaneously use 2 PCI cards, one with traditional DAQ, the other with DAQmx?

Hi,
I am currently trying to debug a system that used to work.. but sadly isnt anymore
A single computer contains 2 PCI cards (6110 & 6036E). The 6110 card is controlled by a fairly old software, programmed in labview, and hence, using Traditional NI-DAQ. The 6036e card is controlled by a more recent soft, programmed in LV as well but using DAQmx.
the AI/AO of the 6110 card is only momentarily used (20 sec consecutively, every minute) while the 6036E card is continuously receiving and sending data on its AI/AO.
Now the problem: the program that control the 6036E card freezes every time that the old prog access the 6110 card.. and then it works again perfectly until the next time that the 6110 card is used.
So my question: how can I make those 2 cards work simultaneously?
I dont think that it is because of the software nor because of the computer lack of memory/CPU if it used to work in the past. It might be about a wrong configuration of cards in the MAX but I couldnt find anything wrong there (no problem when accessing AI/AO of both cards through "test panel")
Thank you very much for you help.

That's what bugs me. The only thing that those 2 cards share is an AO of the 6110 connected to an AI of the 6036.
For the rest, nothing is common. The 1st program only deal with device1, while the 2nd prog only access dev2. There shouldnt be any problem and everything is working fine separately. Hence, why I was wondering if the traditional daq and daqmx might conflict on a same computer.
I just cant find out why the 2nd program controling the daqmx card just freeze everytime the 1st program access the traditional card. It actually doesnt freeze completly but becomes soooo slow, with about only 2 iterations of the main while loop during those 15-20 sec (instead of the normal 3-4000 iterations during such a period).
The computer specs are a 2.2ghz proc for 1G of ram and running XP, so it should be ok.. even though the computer does slow a bit down when the 1st prog access the traditional card.

Wmp 11 pci card work with WPA encription?

I just purchased a new 54G wireless access point since my new laptop (with Vista) doesn't seem to want to give "full connectivity" when using WEP security activated.
I now use WPA and the laptop hooks up fine to the new access point. My problem now, is all my other wireless computers have the older wmp 11 pci cards, and I don't see anywhere in the setup where I can select "WPA" security so they can see the new access point.
Is there a way that they can work with this new access point with WPA?

I have a WMP 11 2.7 - I know for a fact it supports WPA2 because I am connected to the net using it and WPA2 right now.
I knew it had to work cos I got it working under Ubuntu linux using this
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
very helpful guide.
Could not however get the damned thing to work on windows using any of the drivers from this site. So I went back and had a look at the linux guide and found a simple solution. Download this driver
http://sidulus.textdrive.com/bcmwl5sys.zip
Go to C:\windows\system32\drivers\bcmwl5.sys rename the driver there to bcmwl5.old.sys and unzip the new driver to that location. Restart. Hey-presto you should now be able to connect to WPA and WPA2 networks.
I think this will probably only work for the 2.7 version as that is a Broadcom chipset.
You know what really bugs me tho? I shouldn't have to be telling you to do all this, I shouldn't have to do it myself either. Why the hell does this card not connect to WPA with the drivers supplied on this site?!?!?

Processor backing plate with K8N Neo

Hi,
I am waiting for my K8N Neo to turn up (placed order with Dabs last week), I have just got my OEM 3200+ and also a Scythe Samurai heatsink, the problem is though the heatsink does not come with the backing plate for underneath the motherboard. It says that you should use the one that comes with the processor or motherboard. Seeing that I have an OEM processor there is none with that.
So my question is will I get one with my K8N Neo, and if not where can I get one? I do not want to be in the position where I get the motherboard and then find that I cannot build the PC for another 3 or 4 days.
Thanks for the help,
Dylan

...here's a thread on this topic in the AMD Forums...I'm a little surprised...
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Backing plate with K8N Neo

Hi,
I am waiting for my K8N Neo to turn up (placed order with Dabs last week), I have just got my OEM 3200+ and also a Scythe Samurai heatsink, the problem is though the heatsink does not come with the backing plate for underneath the motherboard. It says that you should use the one that comes with the processor or motherboard. Seeing that I have an OEM processor there is none with that.
So my question is will I get one with my K8N Neo, and if not where can I get one? I do not want to be in the position where I get the motherboard and then find that I cannot build the PC for another 3 or 4 days.
Thanks for the help,
Dylan

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threadid=47575&sid=
none of the reviews talk about there being one in the box
i would argue with the cooler people myself

Memory Card Issue with my BlackBerry Curve 9300

Hello,
I have been using the memory card for more than a year. It's a SanDisk or a ScanDisk memory card. It's 8 GB. I didn't use the card that came with my BlackBerry Curve 9300 phone. I'm always trying to delete files or to copy files, most of them are music files from my laptop to the memory card via memory card reader.
Now I am encountering a message that I need to repair the memory card whenever I try to insert it to my phone again. And most of the time whenever the phone automatically repairs it, some files are corrupted or considered as a "lost chunk files".
How can I recover those files? And why did it happen or always happen in the first place?
According to this site, you need to reformat it: http://www.techtalkz.com/tips-n-tricks/1535-memory-card-corrupted-here-solution.html
So what I did is to copied everything to my laptop then reformatted it completely.
It kinda solved the issue but for how long will I won't be experiencing the "repair memory card" issue and the "lost chunk files" issue?
Do I need another program to reformat the memory card and not to use the one that comes with every windows computer?
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There are a lot of recovery programs out there.
Can you guys help me out here? Thanks.
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http://www.diydatarecovery.nl/chkmate.htm
http://forums.crackberry.com/blackberry-torch-9800-f209/torch-freezes-media-card-corrupted-627384/
http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/08/tips-tricks-recover-files-from-a-corrupted-sd-or-microsd-card/
http://supportforums.blackberry.com/t5/BlackBerry-Torch/Media-card-corrupted/td-p/1181945
http://www.squidoo.com/recoverphotosblackberry
http://www.ehow.com/how_2129153_retrieve-pictures-corrupt-memory-card.html
http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/sd/download/index.html
http://www.datarecoverybook.com/drb/usb-drive.html
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
http://www.memorycardrepair.org/memory-card-repair/downloads.html

vikram82 wrote:
Tried a couple of things. Still my issue is not resolved
I think you should try each and everyone of the solutions suggested in the link I provided, given that it covered both harware and software suggestions. And always reset the device by removing the battery whilst the device is powered-on. Leave the battery out for a minute or 2 after each step.
See if that resolves the problem.
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Boot Problem with K8n Neo 2 Platinum

I cant get my Computer to load the bios
Sometimes when I restart my computer it will lock up in the Bios Sign on and the only way to get it to boot through is to keep resetting the computer and turning the power off and on. It does this on a random basis, Ive also had problems with it locking up if the dynamic oc is turned on.
Has anybody heard of this happening or know how to fix it?
MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum Bios 1.4
Athlon64 3800+
TwinX 1024 3200LLPRO
Xtasy 9600XT
Ultra Products X-Connect 500w
2x WD Raptor 10,000rpm SATA HD in Raid 0 cfg
SB audigy 2 ZS
LiteOn cd/dvd drive
LiteOn dvd burner
Windows XP SP2

Corsair memory is known to be troublesome with AMD64.
Nevertheless, if everything is set correctly, it'll work. I've been running the LLPRO 3200 1GB kit at 220MHz without any noticable problems. Run a couple of rounds with Memtest86+ to verify memory functionality.
Can you please give your specifications on the power supply unit (PSU), especially the amperage on the +12 volt rail.
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